Vis Vires Busted by DEA

[ickyrica]

I never understood how someone can’t bury money where no one can find it. Then worst case scenario you do your time and come out with a pile of cash to live on. The cocaine cowboys did it in Florida .

Schedule 80 PVC tubing. 26" long x 3" round.

This will fit 8 filler bundles of cash without stuffing the bills in. That's 80k per tube if you have stacks of 100$ bills, 40k if 50$ bills, etc.

Seal one end with a permanent cap and the other with a threaded cap. Go dig yourself a nice cozy hiding spot and walk away. Rinse and repeat as needed

Just seems so easy to hide cash....

 

[HIGHRISK]

Schedule 80 PVC tubing. 26" long x 3" round.

This will fit 8 filler bundles of cash without stuffing the bills in. That's 80k per tube if you have stacks of 100$ bills, 40k if 50$ bills, etc.

Seal one end with a permanent cap and the other with a threaded cap. Go dig yourself a nice cozy hiding spot and walk away. Rinse and repeat as needed

Just seems so easy to hide cash....

Where is it you live again?

 

[HIGHRISK]

Schedule 80 PVC tubing. 26" long x 3" round.

This will fit 8 filler bundles of cash without stuffing the bills in. That's 80k per tube if you have stacks of 100$ bills, 40k if 50$ bills, etc.

Seal one end with a permanent cap and the other with a threaded cap. Go dig yourself a nice cozy hiding spot and walk away. Rinse and repeat as needed

Just seems so easy to hide cash....

Just put an X on this map please. Thanks bud

 

[DoctorX]

Chris has died in prison ... (Leader of vis vires)

Rest in peace ..

Christopher Caplinger Obituary - Edmond, OK

Celebrate the life of Christopher Caplinger, leave a kind word or memory and get funeral service information care of Baggerley Funeral Home.

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OBITUARY​

Christopher "Chris" Thomas Caplinger​

November 14, 1962 – December 27, 2022​

IN THE CARE OF

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Christopher (Chris) Thomas Caplinger, a caring husband, father, brother, son, uncle, cousin, and friend left this world on Tuesday, December 27th, 2022, surrounded by his family, after a short battle with illness.
Chris was born November 14th, 1962 to A.C. and Rena Caplinger in Oklahoma City; he moved with his family at age 5 to Edmond when his dad opened a veterinary practice on Broadway. Chris graduated from Edmond Memorial in 1981 and was a member of the golf team that won the first, of now many, state championships for the school. After graduating he attended the Police Academy and became an Edmond Police Officer and served his community for the next 20 years.

 

[biggioman]

That is a source I haven't heard about in a long time! I think he was out of Oklahoma I believe. Great products and service.

 

[biggerben69]

He wasn't the only member of LE who decided to change teams. The man behind Dynasty Labs was a former Philly police officer. This guy is a 2 time loser who didn't wait to start his life of crime. He was still "Protecting and Serving" the good people of Philadelphia when he was indicted by the feds for being part of a steroid distribution network led by a detective also employed by the City of Brotherly Love. Both were cashing paychecks as members of LE as well as supplementing their income with sales of AAS and GH.

George was fired from the force after the embarrassing bust but was able to avoid prison. He was sentenced in 2013 to 6 months of incarceration because the prosecution agreed to have the sentencing judge "Strongly Recommend" that the BOP have George serve his 6 month sentence in a Federal Halfway House instead of an actual prison. Its nice to see all sides showing love to a convicted drug dealing police officer.

Fast forward to 2015 or so and our former Philly cop is discharged from Supervised Release(Federal Probation). He is free to move around the Country and decides to settle in Henderson, NV and start a new life. The new life resembles the old life in that anabolic steroids brewed in a home lab will finance the new life. The more things change the more they stay the same.

The article goes into what led to the 2nd federal indictment. How the lab owner avoided prison again is sealed so the public is left to speculate on just how one is to navigate through the federal system and come out the other end smiling.

Pennsylvania Man Pleads Guilty to Federal Charges for Illegally Distributing Anabolic Steroids and Other Misbranded Drugs

I may make another post about the 3rd member of LE who started up his UGL while collecting a check as a member of the RI State Police. He went by Tabman in the Community.

Tabman attempted to collect disability pay while listing ADHD as the cause of his being disabled. Was able to have the Tax paying Citizens of RI cover his prescription of Amphetamine that he said helped relieve his suffering.

Tabman was convicted of distributing AAS. He followed in the footsteps of his Philly brother in Arms and avoided prison. These former cops should make buying lottery tickets a priority with the "LUCK" they seem to have.

 

[malfeasance]

Chris has died in prison ... (Leader of vis vires)

Rest in peace ..

Christopher Caplinger Obituary - Edmond, OK

Celebrate the life of Christopher Caplinger, leave a kind word or memory and get funeral service information care of Baggerley Funeral Home.

www.dignitymemorial.com

OBITUARY​

Christopher "Chris" Thomas Caplinger​

November 14, 1962 – December 27, 2022​

IN THE CARE OF

Baggerley Funeral Home​

Christopher (Chris) Thomas Caplinger, a caring husband, father, brother, son, uncle, cousin, and friend left this world on Tuesday, December 27th, 2022, surrounded by his family, after a short battle with illness.
Chris was born November 14th, 1962 to A.C. and Rena Caplinger in Oklahoma City; he moved with his family at age 5 to Edmond when his dad opened a veterinary practice on Broadway. Chris graduated from Edmond Memorial in 1981 and was a member of the golf team that won the first, of now many, state championships for the school. After graduating he attended the Police Academy and became an Edmond Police Officer and served his community for the next 20 years.

That sucks.

Selling steroids should not result in a life sentence. Congress messed up when it made heavy penalties available for this conduct.

 

[patriotmuscle1]

That sucks.

Selling steroids should not result in a life sentence. Congress messed up when it made heavy penalties available for this conduct.

It is pretty ass backward... indid more time forn3rd degree possession charge then half of the guys who were felons that had been caught possessing a firearm "certain persons" offense..
$100 of narcotics I did just shy of 4 years. I'm not saying I didn't deserve punishment. I believe they have it all messed up. Also I'm a felon now myself..lost my hoke and wife during that period. I'm not gonna act like if I didn't get caught I would of lost those things eventually anyway. The system is really broken.
Repeat wife beaters get less time.. max of 3 yrs.. seems oh welk end rant . .srry fellas.. one of those days

 

[Zebedee]

$100 of narcotics I did just shy of 4 years.

Christ …. That’s fucking ridiculous! Then again, so is a life sentence for selling a bit of gear! The only thing anyone is ever given a life sentence for in the UK is murder. Both your laws & sentencing structure need seriously overhauling ASAP.

 

[patriotmuscle1]

Christ …. That’s fucking ridiculous! Then again, so is a life sentence for selling a bit of gear! The only thing anyone is ever given a life sentence for in the UK is murder. Both your laws & sentencing structure need seriously overhauling ASAP.

I agree 100%

 

[AlexDavis43]

Christ …. That’s fucking ridiculous! Then again, so is a life sentence for selling a bit of gear! The only thing anyone is ever given a life sentence for in the UK is murder. Both your laws & sentencing structure need seriously overhauling ASAP.

I agree 100%

Yes, it's all bullshit. Cocaine in the White House and fentanyl pouring over the borders yet AAS is cause for imprisonment?

Have a rich or famous relative = get out of jail free card x infinity

If a young LEO is trying to make a name for themself, you're screwed. Try to find a normal human being higher up on the chain that you can talk to.

I had one run-in when I was young and knew someone who knew a senator. One 5-minute phone call and it was squashed.

The system is fucked.

 

[Zebedee]

Yes, it's all bullshit. Cocaine in the White House and fentanyl pouring over the borders yet AAS is cause for imprisonment?

Have a rich or famous relative = get out of jail free card x infinity

If a young LEO is trying to make a name for themself, you're screwed. Try to find a normal human being higher up on the chain that you can talk to.

I had one run-in when I was young and knew someone who knew a senator. One 5-minute phone call and it was squashed.

The system is fucked.

Our system isn’t perfect & neither is how it’s implemented, ie Brits sometimes also avoid prosecution due to social connections etc, although I suspect it’s probably less common here than in the US.

One massive difference between the US & UK though is how being granted bail in the US is essentially a commodity you can buy, if you have enough $$$ to pay the bail fee. This is discriminatory, as it benefits the rich whilst essentially further penalising the poor for being poor.

We don’t do that - there is no bail fee & your financial position is irrelevant. To me, this how it should be.

Also “bounty hunters” - what the fuck is that all about? I mean, it’s 2024, not 1824.

 

[patriotmuscle1]

Our system isn’t perfect & neither is how it’s implemented, ie Brits sometimes also avoid prosecution due to social connections etc, although I suspect it’s probably less common here than in the US.

One massive difference between the US & UK though is how being granted bail in the US is essentially a commodity you can buy, if you have enough $$$ to pay the bail fee. This is discriminatory, as it benefits the rich whilst essentially further penalising the poor for being poor.

We don’t do that - there is no bail fee & your financial position is irrelevant. To me, this how it should be.

Also “bounty hunters” - what the fuck is that all about? I mean, it’s 2024, not 1824.

Well, bail laws are different state to state.. and now in New Jersey where I'm from, there is no bail. They have a point system.. points based on type/severity of charge and then your odds of appearing for court
So you may be RORed or go to jail fir a day or 2 until you can see judge. If you have a couple failure to appears for even a traffic tickets, your likely to sit in jail for a month or longer until sentencing..

It's a good system for people who have zero record.. if you have a record be prepared to sit for awhile.. 1-9 months

 

[malfeasance]

Our system isn’t perfect & neither is how it’s implemented, ie Brits sometimes also avoid prosecution due to social connections etc, although I suspect it’s probably less common here than in the US.

One massive difference between the US & UK though is how being granted bail in the US is essentially a commodity you can buy, if you have enough $$$ to pay the bail fee. This is discriminatory, as it benefits the rich whilst essentially further penalising the poor for being poor.

We don’t do that - there is no bail fee & your financial position is irrelevant. To me, this how it should be.

Also “bounty hunters” - what the fuck is that all about? I mean, it’s 2024, not 1824.

What country are you in, and how do they secure attendance at court?

Bail is more or less a promise to show up. If you do not show up, the bond is forfeit.

Example: Your judge sets your bond at $100,000. You can either pay a percentage (typically about 12%) to a bonding company, which charges a fee. That 12% you will never see again. The bonding company provides a bond. If you do not show up, then that bond is forfeit. However the bonding company secured the bond through a surety company, and the surety will seek the bond from the bail company and its owners. Meanwhile, for bonds that large, the bail company has sought security from friends or relatives of the accused, so the bail company will try to collect those.

In addition, the bail company will send bounty hunters, as paying the bounty and delivering the accused back to the jail releases the bond and saves the bail company owners from financial ruin.

Or you could post your own bond, in cash. Most folks do not have $100k lying around, though. So maybe family members post a property bond, which means that if your parents have sufficient equity in their home, it can be security against you showing up. If you fail to show, then your parents could lose their home.

So what country are you in? Looks like an English flag. I though that in England you still post money or a surety to get out of jail and guarantee your appearance in court?

 

[Zebedee]

What country are you in, and how do they secure attendance at court?

Bail is more or less a promise to show up. If you do not show up, the bond is forfeit.

Example: Your judge sets your bond at $100,000. You can either pay a percentage (typically about 12%) to a bonding company, which charges a fee. That 12% you will never see again. The bonding company provides a bond. If you do not show up, then that bond is forfeit. However the bonding company secured the bond through a surety company, and the surety will seek the bond from the bail company and its owners. Meanwhile, for bonds that large, the bail company has sought security from friends or relatives of the accused, so the bail company will try to collect those.

In addition, the bail company will send bounty hunters, as paying the bounty and delivering the accused back to the jail releases the bond and saves the bail company owners from financial ruin.

Or you could post your own bond, in cash. Most folks do not have $100k lying around, though. So maybe family members post a property bond, which means that if your parents have sufficient equity in their home, it can be security against you showing up. If you fail to show, then your parents could lose their home.

So what country are you in? Looks like an English flag. I though that in England you still post money or a surety to get out of jail and guarantee your appearance in court?

I’m in the UK mate. England to be precise - there are some differences in the laws & legal systems between England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland, but the four Home Nations all sing from the same hymn sheet (although historically NI is far more socially conservative than the other nations (& also very sectarian), & thus has been several decades behind the much more socially liberal / progressive England).

No, there is no requirement anywhere in the UK to post some form of surety to avoid being placed “on remand” (in custody) & to guarantee your appearance in court at your trial. The decision depends on numerous factors - nature of the crime, input from the police (or other relevant LE agency), CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) as to whether they think the accused is a flight risk, will reoffend ahead if the trial if bailed etc.

You might have to surrender your passport, there might be conditions attached, eg living at a certain address, avoid certain places (eg former parter’s place of residence if it’s a domestic abuse charge etc), but you cannot buy your temporary freedom.

If you abscond before your trial (which very few do), then State LE agencies will be on the lookout for you, not commercial, profit-orientated businesses. We have some privatisation of the criminal justice system, eg commercial firms running low category prisons, prisoner transport to & from court etc, but when it comes to the investigation of & the pursuit of criminals or suspects, this is an entirely a State matter conducted by State-employed professionals with clear oversight & codes of practice etc.

No fucking way would the British population tolerate random weirdos like “Dog the Bounty Hunter” et al running around the streets with guns & handcuffs playing Junior G-Man / GI Joe. It’s not just us either - as far as I’m aware, the one & only other nation that allows bounty hunters is The Philippines … a former US colonial possession & very much a US client state for most of it’s post-independence history.

In short, it’s all about cultural values & norms as to why we have different systems mate. Same as why our healthcare models are so vastly different - but that’s another debate.

 

[Zebedee]

Well, bail laws are different state to state.. and now in New Jersey where I'm from, there is no bail. They have a point system.. points based on type/severity of charge and then your odds of appearing for court
So you may be RORed or go to jail fir a day or 2 until you can see judge. If you have a couple failure to appears for even a traffic tickets, your likely to sit in jail for a month or longer until sentencing..

It's a good system for people who have zero record.. if you have a record be prepared to sit for awhile.. 1-9 months

That surprises me actually as it’s much more like our system. Comes back to what we was both saying earlier, how your laws vary so massively from State to State.

My perception is that your East & West coastal States are more liberal than the centre - do other East / West coastal states also have systems similar to NJ, if you know?

 

[AlexDavis43]

That surprises me actually as it’s much more like our system. Comes back to what we was both saying earlier, how your laws vary so massively from State to State.

My perception is that your East & West coastal States are more liberal than the centre - do other East / West coastal states also have systems similar to NJ, if you know?

Also, "bounty hunters" like you see in TV shows and movies is a myth in USA now. Maybe 18th century but they can't even get Snowden.

 

[patriotmuscle1]

That surprises me actually as it’s much more like our system. Comes back to what we was both saying earlier, how your laws vary so massively from State to State.

My perception is that your East & West coastal States are more liberal than the centre - do other East / West coastal states also have systems similar to NJ, if you know?

East and west a somenwhat more liberal then center of the country.. but the southern states and the northern states are very conservative like the middle states.. really only 3-5 states on the east coast that are very liberal and then the west coast is really liberal except for most of Texas..
I only know of the legal system in New Jersey. Also we have a handful of states that are " common wealth" states and there laws and the penalties they carry are vastly different and usually more extreme then the rest of the country. Those states are also mostly conservative/Republican.. I myself am more Republican then not but I don't always agree with the party . I love my country it's all I know .. but it is a cluster fuck. It's easy in my opinion to say something is the best when it's all you know.
I'd like to spend some time in European countries and see the difference, feel the difference in how they are culturally different and the difference goverments.

 

[malfeasance]

We literally have fifty separate sovereign States that are for the most part free to set up their own laws and can be very different from each other. For example, in Oregon possession of even hard drugs is decriminalized (although they are considering making it a misdemeanor again, but still treated very lightly) while in Georgia possession of more than an ounce of marijuana is a felony.

Bail laws are set by each state and can be vastly different, as well. Several states have recently experimented with changes.

It is like a vast experimental lab with 50 different sets of laws going on to watch and see the effects. Moreover, Americans are free to move to another state if they like it and its laws better.

 

[UncleBuns]

We literally have fifty separate sovereign States that are for the most part free to set up their own laws and can be very different from each other. For example, in Oregon possession of even hard drugs is decriminalized (although they are considering making it a misdemeanor again, but still treated very lightly) while in Georgia possession of more than an ounce of marijuana is a felony.

Bail laws are set by each state and can be vastly different, as well. Several states have recently experimented with changes.

It is like a vast experimental lab with 50 different sets of laws going on to watch and see the effects. Moreover, Americans are free to move to another state if they like it and its laws better.

It's depressing that we are still dealing with the "war on drugs" mindset in the US and are still arresting and and imprisoning people for drugs. It costs taxpayers a ton of money, wastes an insane amount of resources, and ruins people's lives for nothing. Decades of harsh punishments and imprisoning people has achieved absolutely nothing besides costing, working people money and ruining lives. It's disgusting and depressing and I can't believe we haven't learned yet that it doesn't work. I think we're still dealing with this mentality because of a mix of power, money, lobbying, and garden variety stubborn stick your head in the sand retarded thinking.