W&M Analytical Liaison (U.S. Domestic)

[master.on]

So let's see...
Can't detect certain things as another tester cant. Unless suspected compound is known? Or extra fee.
I honestly don't have faith in sending "known" products to someone.

Can we have a list of those compounds?

I'm guessing these arent identified:
1-test cyp (dhb)
Supedrol.
M1T
Methyltrienolone
Trestolone ace or decanoate.

All expensive compounds

But you have and this guys tester has their ways to detect those not on the NIST?

Even if they are identified by GC-MS you need standards to properly quantify them.
GC-MS ain't as good as HPLC as quantifying, and you can't quantify without reference standards.

I know for a fact that trest deca is not in NIST.

I do have a standard, though.

Then why don't you post a pic of that standard?
You can delete its batch # and expiration date.
Answer: you don't have any testing equipment, all you do is to make up numbers.

Are you the new rep for W&M? Shouldn’t you be in your own thread?

I can be anywhere I want to be, don't worry about me.

Yes

It’s only been 2 hours since you asked your question. Give W&M a chance to get back to you. You don’t need instant gratification.

And we’re in agreement with it being good to have W&M and Jano on MESO providing their own services. You’re missing the point on why Jano shouldn’t be in W&M thread. He has his OWN interests in mind, not yours, mine or anyone else’s. He seems helpful as can be but that’s because he’s marketing his own services for financial benefit.

He’s on MESO but he doesn’t belong in the W&M thread. Simple as that.

Yes I need instant gratification.
I'm the potentia customer...and W&M is the middle man, not the lab guy right.
I need answers now lol.

And all of us. Costumers or sources belong in anyone's thread. So what if there's competition...Sources only care about getting money right? Well customers only care about getting what they pay for.
I'm supposed to care? and think members or sources are outstanding citizens because of a steroid board?
I know I sound like a dick but this is the drug game. I'm not building friendships or trying to.

I read the whole thread fool...
And lol, I wasn't demanding a response from W&M. Why would he tell me to fuck off? Because another bitter troll (you) is upset?
Jano answered first...the trolls need to deal with it.

Wait..I'm an asshole for telling people without any experience with him... to stop trolling.
I'm trolling yet you're gonna troll me as much as possible in these threads?
YOU'RE THE PROBLEM WITH THESE FORUMS. I can't like what others post, but it's okay for you to dislike what others post?
They can have their negative opinion but I can't? And of course other people are hesitant to use jano. All you trolls who have no experience are constantly running your mouth. Every damn opportunity to troll the forums...y'all look for specific reasons to bitch.

Holy shit.....what happened here??

Ok so let me try to sort this out:
1) I never said that it is mandatory to give a clue for items not in the NIST. You can EITHER give a clue, pay more money, or forfeit the money you sent with the sample. The chemist isn’t going to chase down niche compounds for free; and am not going to pay him for you.
2) I have absolutely no idea what is not in the NIST regarding performance enhancing drugs. I don’t know if 1-test cyp or trestolone acetate are in there; but those 2 have been sent blinded and identified correctly. Actually, the only thing that has came across so far is 4,2N.....I don’t remeber what the hell it was but it had a few numbers and letters before the word.
3) If anyone feels uncomfortable with any of the policies I have created for this service; by all means, don’t send me anything......it’s that easy.
4)About Jano: he has actually helped me a couple of times. He knows analytical chemistry and I don’t. I’m not his competition because this isn’t my job. In fact, I sent more to AnabolicLab from these proceeds than I put in my pocket. I do this for fun and to help people avoid being hurt. Even if I were in competition with Jano, I would actually be happy if he came to my thread and took the business of someone who I probably would never make happy anyway.

Immediate gratification is not something I ever intend to advertise. I log in here often; but I turned off all the notifications when master.on was freaking out. With that said, I will also never refuse to answer a question by ignoring it. My answer is quite often not the answer that the person asking wanted to hear; but they get answered.

No one was waiting for you or immediate gratification. You weren't online...jano answered. Some idiot said I was so expecting immediate response... I joked about it. Like always the trolls come in to harass jano in every thread.
AND...I was reiterating what you said.
Can't detect things unless in NIST or product is known. And you already said extra fee to figure things out otherwise.
These trolls flood these forums with drama and doubt...it's annoying.

You’re right, I’m the dumb one. Go ride Jano a little more and prove to the rest of us just how smart you are.

BBB asks a question and then Jano quickly answers it to pretend to look intelligent. How convenient the timing is. So BBB = Jano, or at least BBB is riding Jano's dick.

Try to ask a technical question to SIMEC, Lab4tox and they may take a couple days to reply.
You don't seem to realize how time consuming chromatography is.

Even @Analyzer, the only PROVEN chromatographer in Meso, wasn't here everyday.
Again, chromatography is really time consuming.

@BigBaldBeardGuy , if you want next time why don't you ask identical question in both W&M and Jano's threads so nobody trespasses each other thread (and you can prove you are no Jano dickrider)?

I don’t give a shit if you pipe in with useful info but in this case you’re advertising your own services in your competition’s thread. That definitely crosses the line. Have some respect for others. Even the drug dealers respect each other’s threads and stay where they belong.

Drug dealers who trespass on the competition area get shot in the head.

If W&M minds me chiming in so he doesn't have to search through the NIST, he can very well say that himself.

I could have refrained from adding that I have the standard, but I am, quite fucking possibly, the only person on the planet who has it and I'm quite proud of that. Sue me.

However, I still don't think it's by far as bad as shitting up another page of yet another thread with bullshit accusations and virtue signalling. How are you showing respect to W&M by shitting his thread up again, guys?

As if searching NIST were that hard (for someone who really owns GC-MS chromatography equipment, which you don't).

Honestly I’m glad that Jano is here. His knowledge is an asset to this forum. It’s just that it takes a very, very long time to repair a breach of trust. For example, how many cheating girlfriends have you taken back and not kept an eye on?

You're glad Jano is actually trespassing other lab's thread?
When did you start riding Jano's dick?

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Even if they are identified by GC-MS you need standards to properly quantify them.
GC-MS ain't as good as HPLC as quantifying, and you can't quantify without reference standards.



Then why don't you post a pic of that standard?
You can delete its batch # and expiration date.
Answer: you don't have any testing equipment, all you do is to make up numbers.



















BBB asks a question and then Jano quickly answers it to pretend to look intelligent. How convenient the timing is. So BBB = Jano, or at least BBB is riding Jano's dick.

Try to ask a technical question to SIMEC, Lab4tox and they may take a couple days to reply.
You don't seem to realize how time consuming chromatography is.

Even @Analyzer, the only PROVEN chromatographer in Meso, wasn't here everyday.
Again, chromatography is really time consuming.

@BigBaldBeardGuy , if you want next time why don't you ask identical question in both W&M and Jano's threads so nobody trespasses each other thread (and you can prove you are no Jano dickrider)?



Drug dealers who trespass on the competition area get shot in the head.



As if searching NIST were that hard (for someone who really owns GC-MS chromatography equipment, which you don't).



You're glad Jano is actually trespassing other lab's thread?
When did you start riding Jano's dick?

Did you read anything I wrote? I told Jano to get out of the W&M thread. [emoji3061] Now I know why there’s so much shit on MESO about you being a retarded bot.

 

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Did you read anything I wrote? I told Jano to get out of the W&M thread. [emoji3061] Now I know why there’s so much shit on MESO about you being a retarded bot.

I'm confused....I was the suspected dick rider, not you. Lol

 

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Have a good vacation W&M

 

[T-Bagger]

I'm confused....I was the suspected dick rider, not you. Lol

LMAO!!!!

 

[wedorecover]

So I had 2 samples of hgh test from a un names source my post is more to tell my experience with this testing it was painless and quick vary happy with him thanks brother

 

[wedorecover]

Trying to get the pics to upload try again later

 

[wedorecover]

@Weights & Measures can u post them it won’t let me

 

[wedorecover]

But
Blacks came back 10.1
Blues 9.9

 

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But
Blacks came back 10.1
Blues 9.9

Awesome buddy...thank you for this

 

[onslaughter]

I have a question W&M

Can you ask if these can be tested for. follistatin myostatin pro peptide?

 

[Giveitago]

But
Blacks came back 10.1
Blues 9.9

These aren’t Meditrope blacks are they?

 

[Weights & Measures]

@Weights & Measures can u post them it won’t let me

 

[Weights & Measures]

I have a question W&M

Can you ask if these can be tested for. follistatin myostatin pro peptide?

I will ask.

 

[wedorecover]

These aren’t Meditrope blacks are they?

No sir

 

[wedorecover]

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Ty brother don’t know why it wouldn’t upload

 

[Weights & Measures]

I have a question W&M

Can you ask if these can be tested for. follistatin myostatin pro peptide?

The answer is yes; but it will be expensive.
The reference standards are $1260 and $298; which would have to be purchased before testing to get reliable results.
Molecular weight only by mass spectrometry is possible; but not the best (his words).
I already bought the hGH analytical standard and I’m not gonna buy more stuff unless that is a popular request.....and then still probably not gonna pay $1500+ for it.
Your post was the first I heard of it.

With that said, the answer is: Absolutely, it can be tested if you provide the analytical standard.

 

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The answer is yes; but it will be expensive.
The reference standards are $1260 and $298; which would have to be purchased before testing to get reliable results.
Molecular weight only by mass spectrometry is possible; but not the best (his words).
I already bought the hGH analytical standard and I’m not gonna buy more stuff unless that is a popular request.....and then still probably not gonna pay $1500+ for it.
Your post was the first I heard of it.

With that said, the answer is: Absolutely, it can be tested if you provide the analytical standard.

Thanks for getting back to me that fast. Ouch though lol

 

[Athlete127]

Intriguing. I’ve got quite a few oils/orals I’d want to test ASAP. No blends. I pm’d you.

 

[Weights]

The answer is yes; but it will be expensive.
The reference standards are $1260 and $298; which would have to be purchased before testing to get reliable results.
Molecular weight only by mass spectrometry is possible; but not the best (his words).
I already bought the hGH analytical standard and I’m not gonna buy more stuff unless that is a popular request.....and then still probably not gonna pay $1500+ for it.
Your post was the first I heard of it.

With that said, the answer is: Absolutely, it can be tested if you provide the analytical standard.

Why is the potency only 6% and 7.5% in those 2 hgh tests?
How much is it to test oils?
How much to test hgh with dimmer?