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[Sworder]

@Sworder
I tried quoting your response but it did not include it for some reason. But for the record, how do you explain skinny chicks with fat titties?

Haha that's hilarious!

Just because I am saying that obesity is caused by stress doesn't mean I have the answers to why skinny females have large mammary glands.

I have a good guess though, see male and females have different fat distribution patterns that are dictated mainly by hormone receptor localization as well as a "genetic factor." The genetic factor would be encoded in your DNA and that's an evolutionary trait to have large breasts. That's why advertising uses a lot of circles too, Target, titties.

So it's going to be a combination of both the saturation of different receptors as well as the DNA aspect that tells her body to grow bigger titties than her neighbor so she will get the stick and not her pal.

There is a heavy concentration of estrogen receptors around the mammary glands and the hips. It's called a "gynoid fat distribution" and the male version is "android."

 

[Sworder]

This is a perfect example of how abstracts do not easily translate to real world applicability. Talk to anyone whose actually made a legitimate transformation and it will not include any shade of whatever your post was about.

Your post is borderline “put this salt lamp in your room to absorb bad energy”.

Even though you post non relevant information on almost every thread I was really trying to give you the benefit of the doubt....but this post puts quite a few thing into perspective in why you post what you post.

Can you please give me the benefit of having a short conversation about it? If you are going to trash me at least give me that.

What do you think is incorrect?

 

[MadBret]

Never asked. But I think metabolism and good genes do play a large role. I can agree that stress can give people the fuck its, and wind up over eating or doing too much drugs or whatever, but I don't agree that it is what makes us fat or not. If you aren't stressed out but take 100 mgs of dbol for a month straight and sit on your ass the entire time, how much weight do you figure you would cut by the months end?

 

[Sworder]

Never asked. But I think metabolism and good genes do play a large role. I can agree that stress can give people the fuck its, and wind up over eating or doing too much drugs or whatever

I think you get my point, there are BILLIONS of humans that don't exercise nor do they count a single calorie. And they have a healthy body, no obesity. It's because the body regulates stasis on its own. Nobody cares to give you the correct info on what causes obesity because that doesn't make money!

If you aren't stressed out but take 100 mgs of dbol for a month straight and sit on your ass the entire time, how much weight do you figure you would cut by the months end?

That's a good question! If you take dianabol that will effect your body's stasis so it will regulate it's food intake according to the dianabol. There are many drugs that interrupt the body's stasis and that can also keep people thin. People that take drugs will off-set their body's ability to maintain stasis too. The drugs will tell the body "everything is alright" reflecting a peaceful state of mind. So then you are tricking your body into thinking you don't have stress.
People that eat often do NOT have a drug problem, and people that have a drug problem typically DON'T have an eating problem.

At that point you are fooling the body.

 

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This is the stupidest shit I’ve ever read bye

 

[Sworder]

This is the stupidest shit I’ve ever read bye

It is pretty easy to say this and that is stupid. Honestly, it makes it look like you can't create a strong argument when you write "bye" like that.

Why don't you say what you think is "stupid" and how I am wrong?

 

[Dead]

It is pretty easy to say this and that is stupid. Honestly, it makes it look like you can't create a strong argument when you write "bye" like that.

Why don't you say what you think is "stupid" and how I am wrong?

Because you won’t understand it. Bye

 

[Sworder]

Because you won’t understand it. Bye

Wow, that was incredibly rude!

 

[movingiron88]

I was reading a recent reputable study in which it studied male men from Sweden sexuality. It states 99.9% of Sweedish men are gay.

Also goes in depth on people who try to analyze everyone and everything. Study concludes this is most certainly caused by being digitally analy penetrated at 11 years old most likely by a Sweedish man.

@MindlessWork is not Sweedish but wishes he could find them under 18

 

[Sworder]

I was reading a recent reputable study in which it studied male men from Sweden sexuality. It states 99.9% of Sweedish men are gay.

Also goes in depth on people who try to analyze everyone and everything. Study concludes this is most certainly caused by being digitally analy penetrated at 11 years old most likely by a Sweedish man.

@MindlessWork is not Sweedish but wishes he could find them under 18

It's funny that you mention Sweden because we don't have that problem there. And the stress induced eating is one of many things that stress can do, it's common knowledge in Sweden, not here.

 

[movingiron88]

It's funny that you mention Sweden because we don't have that problem there. And the stress induced eating is one of many things that stress can do, it's common knowledge in Sweden, not here.

No I completely agree with the stress influencing your diet ideology. But wholeheartedly disagree about sweedish men.

 

[Havah]

Its always the same issue sworder
You dont know shit
But still have the urge to comment on topic you have little or no knwoledge on

So you find a solution, which is to over simplify things
Here you resume obesity to "stress" (whatever the fuck that means, are we talking about anxiety disorders ?), and you apparently take pride in doing so

I dont think you "think differently" at all, theres a whole lot of dummies who adopted the same pattern


(Also some cases of obesity are purely due to medical conditions such as prader willy for instance, i m refering to the "ALL obesity cases are due to stress you can quote me on that one" part of your "discussion")

 

[Sworder]

(Also some cases of obesity are purely due to medical conditions such as prader willy for instance, i m refering to the "ALL obesity cases are due to stress you can quote me on that one" part of your "discussion")

First of all, don't misquote me like that, that's a dirty trick and something people can get banned for. I said "mental stress is the cause to almost ALL cases of obesity."

Other than that, this thread is going to serve as a nice trap as well. What I mean is that fat people like yourself is going to write angry messages because they are offended that there is something wrong with them. Not my fault and @Havah when you do this behavior it makes you look very unintelligent.

You can't make a proper argument against the subject so I don't even know why you are whining. Well actually I do, anyway.

Kindly Havah, take your crying elsewhere. It has to do with emotional control, work on that!

 

[brutus79]

First of all, don't misquote me like that, that's a dirty trick and something people can get banned for. I said "mental stress is the cause to almost ALL cases of obesity."

Other than that, this thread is going to serve as a nice trap as well. What I mean is that fat people like yourself is going to write angry messages because they are offended that there is something wrong with them. Not my fault and @Havah when you do this behavior it makes you look very unintelligent.

You can't make a proper argument against the subject so I don't even know why you are whining. Well actually I do, anyway.

Kindly Havah, take your crying elsewhere. It has to do with emotional control, work on that!

So this is your thing I see... all the intelligence has left the board and you swoop in and pretend to be smart? This is truly pathetic. Post a couple pics of yourself so everyone can see that you look like a cross between gollum and manwhore. You never put on heavy muscle mass, you never cut 100+ pounds- stop pretending you know anything about drastic body changes. What the people in this thread are pretty plainly stating is that they know you are full of shit. I know you are full of shit. You are the equivalent of the gnats that circle a dog's asshole in the heat. Making pointless, unprovable, random assertions and then feigning maturity in the replies of people inviting you to fuck yourself is basically playing politics in a refugee camp. The people you are now talking to here are for the most part not impressed by high mental capacity. You attempting to trick them into thinking you are intelligent? Why? The people who know you are a retard dont care and the people who care know you are one.

You worked in a tent clinic for a little while I believe? Now you learned how to copy and paste pubmed studies on google. Give it a rest. Put on 40 lbs of muscle and I might spend 30 seconds listening to how you did it, but I know you run gear and still have the body of someone in high school. Shut the fuck up.

 

[brutus79]

First of all, don't misquote me like that, that's a dirty trick and something people can get banned for. I said "mental stress is the cause to almost ALL cases of obesity."

Other than that, this thread is going to serve as a nice trap as well. What I mean is that fat people like yourself is going to write angry messages because they are offended that there is something wrong with them. Not my fault and @Havah when you do this behavior it makes you look very unintelligent.

You can't make a proper argument against the subject so I don't even know why you are whining. Well actually I do, anyway.

Kindly Havah, take your crying elsewhere. It has to do with emotional control, work on that!

And havah has twice the knowledge and schooling you could dream to have... you should know your audience mr. shit for brains.

 

[Havah]

First of all, don't misquote me like that, that's a dirty trick and something people can get banned for. I said "mental stress is the cause to almost ALL cases of obesity."

Other than that, this thread is going to serve as a nice trap as well. What I mean is that fat people like yourself is going to write angry messages because they are offended that there is something wrong with them. Not my fault and @Havah when you do this behavior it makes you look very unintelligent.

You can't make a proper argument against the subject so I don't even know why you are whining. Well actually I do, anyway.

Kindly Havah, take your crying elsewhere. It has to do with emotional control, work on that!

Well i m not fat though so what now

Are you just gonna call fat anyone who think your opinion on this subject is worthless ?

I didnt see that one coming though lol, i guess in a way you re are actually a bit special

 

[slyfox115]

Can you please give me the benefit of having a short conversation about it? If you are going to trash me at least give me that.

What do you think is incorrect?

So I re-read this a few times and I actually do agree stress CAN play a role on eating habits, but it is not the primary factor in determining someone's success. A pre-contest bodybuilder getting 3-4 hours of sleep because they are hungry as shit and doing what it takes to get super lean have the complete opposite of "inner peace". If you think mental stress the the cause of obesity I think you looking at abstracts distracts you from actually considering human nature. Do you honestly think the cards would fall into place so easily for most people with just not stressing out? I don't think so. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than that. If the USA would get more vacations, more sleep, or whatever it would take to relieve stress less.....do you honestly think that would save people from becoming obese? Know what I was doing when my stress levels were the lowest they've ever been?.....sitting at home playing xbox, eating ice cream, and getting fat (god do I miss those days).

Like some of the others have said too, you are posting this to enhanced bodybuilders, not the general population so the responses you have rec'd were probably what you thought they would be since you like to ruffle feathers in every single thing you post.

All in all I don't 100% disagree with you because I think stress could assist in someone's progress but you cannot just summarize human nature with what your interpretation is of a few abstracts you reviewed. REAL scientists have been trying to solve the obesity epidemic so quite awhile now and come up with something new every year but I might think they would be closer to finding the answer than what your initial post was.

Tell one person to track their food and adjust as necessary to their goals (good habits can be developed from this)....and the other to not stress out....lets see who makes the most progress.

All in all I am almost more angry at the fact that I am typing this out to reply.

 

[Sworder]

So this is your thing I see... all the intelligence has left the board and you swoop in and pretend to be smart? This is truly pathetic.

There are still plenty of much more intelligent minds than yours here on Meso.

I am not saying you are trying to make yourself seem super important Mister "All the Intelligence" Brutus

Post a couple pics of yourself so everyone can see that you look like a cross between gollum and manwhore.

Is this a dating app? I am trying to have a discussion with words. I am not looking to play Hot or Not with you! Thank you though

You never put on heavy muscle mass, you never cut 100+ pounds- stop pretending you know anything about drastic body changes.

I don't have HEAVY muscle? Aww crap! I thought I did

What the people in this thread are pretty plainly stating is that they know you are full of shit. I know you are full of shit. You are the equivalent of the gnats that circle a dog's asshole in the heat.

You can do better metaphors than that can't you? Gnats are pretty nice creatures if you think about it, they clean Doggie butts

Making pointless, unprovable, random assertions and then feigning maturity in the replies of people inviting you to fuck yourself is basically playing politics in a refugee camp.

Try making a statement regarding obesity and I will tear you to shreds.

The people you are now talking to here are for the most part not impressed by high mental capacity. You attempting to trick them into thinking you are intelligent? Why? The people who know you are a retard dont care and the people who care know you are one.

Thanks for the compliments, honestly you are the one that is levitating me to the skies.

You worked in a tent clinic for a little while I believe?

That's an logical fallacy, logical fallacies are worse than war crimes in my book! Basically you are saying since I have years of experience working as a TRT consultant you think I am right. Read my post if you want I don't state I have this or that qualification. That's not part of my ethos unfortunately.

Now you learned how to copy and paste pubmed studies on google.

I can read them too, without skipping words.

Give it a rest. Put on 40 lbs of muscle and I might spend 30 seconds listening to how you did it, but I know you run gear and still have the body of someone in high school. Shut the fuck up.

One of the guys were talking about "John Meadows" and I was saying that they look up to guys like that whom have huge muscles and view him as being the second coming of Christ because of it. They also think that because he has big muscles he knows a lot. Which isn't true but you think in the same way. It's very juvenile and cute

And havah has twice the knowledge and schooling you could dream to have... you should know your audience mr. shit for brains.

Well, I am 32. I still have a lot of time to learn in my life.

I am not trying to be "smart" I want a discussion about obesity, if Havah was such as smart boy why can't neither you nor him talk about the subject matter? I know why.

Well i m not fat though so what now

I didnt see that one coming though lol, i guess in a way you re are actually a bit special

Don't worry, it's a persuasive technique to rile you and the guys up a little.

Was there something you wanted to contradict in my post regarding obesity Mister @Havah?

 

[Sworder]

So I re-read this a few times and I actually do agree stress CAN play a role on eating habits, but it is not the primary factor in determining someone's success.

Glad to hear you have an open mind!

A pre-contest bodybuilder getting 3-4 hours of sleep because they are hungry as shit and doing what it takes to get super lean have the complete opposite of "inner peace".

I agree! There are other factors that play apart as well.

I am not trying to dumb it down to make things simple. The human body is still extremely complicated and there are so many variables in each specific case that you need to take into consideration.

I could have written 3-4 times the amount that I did if I were to cover a lot of those other factors but at that point people won't even start reading. I wouldn't

Do you honestly think the cards would fall into place so easily for most people with just not stressing out?

Oh yes! Stress is one of the number one killers in my mind, stress can be underlying cause for obesity, drug addictions, divorces, sickness and diseases. Do I mean that sicknesses and diseases are directly caused by stress?! YES!

Do I believe that people can DIE from stress? YES!

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The Effect of Widowhood on Mortality by the Causes of Death of Both Spouses
The Effect of Widowhood on Mortality by the Causes of Death of Both Spouses
The increased likelihood for a recently widowed person to die—often called the “widowhood effect”—is one of the best documented examples of the effect of social relations on health.1 The widowhood effect has been found among men and women of all ages throughout the world.2–5 Recent longitudinal studies put the excess mortality of widowhood (compared with marriage) among the elderly between 30% and 90% in the first 3 months and around 15% in the months thereafter.1,6–8 These estimates are comparable across various statistical methodologies, including multivariate models that statistically control for a wide range of confounding factors,1,6,8,9 prompting increasing confidence in a causal basis of the widowhood effect.6,8,10,11
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I know my style of writing is very immature but the subject matter is extremely serious. Stress is killing Americans! Ruining lives and creating drug dependencies that create other problems and then you have a snowball effect of different drugs and ailments.

I don't think so. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than that. If the USA would get more vacations, more sleep, or whatever it would take to relieve stress less.....do you honestly think that would save people from becoming obese?

I strongly believe the statistics would go down, yes. Again, I am not trying to dumb it down, but there is a common denominator in all this STRESS being present.

I am not saying it is an easy task, I don't know how to relieve 100% of stress but I am getting better at it and noticing huge improvements in my life just from smiling more. It's a fake smile but it works!

Know what I was doing when my stress levels were the lowest they've ever been?.....sitting at home playing xbox, eating ice cream, and getting fat (god do I miss those days).

Yeah, this is a huge red flag. I would argue that you are doing that because you are extremely stressed and you don't even realize the misery you are in. I don't mean to be judgemental but this behavior is a red flag if anything. Isolating, needing constant stimulation mentally and the oral fixation with ice cream. Yeah, that's bad!

Like some of the others have said too, you are posting this to enhanced bodybuilders, not the general population so the responses you have rec'd were probably what you thought they would be since you like to ruffle feathers in every single thing you post.

I am extremely aware of my target audience when I write. Do my posts seem impromptu? They aren't.

All in all I don't 100% disagree with you because I think stress could assist in someone's progress but you cannot just summarize human nature with what your interpretation is of a few abstracts you reviewed.

To be honest, I don't care too much if people agree or not. This is how it is, if you want to debate me. State why I am wrong if you are feeling courageous.

REAL scientists have been trying to solve the obesity epidemic so quite awhile now and come up with something new every year but I might think they would be closer to finding the answer than what your initial post was.

No, that's not true. The science has been out there for decades, the true information is out there. It's just that people chose to read magazines and other TV shows that are made to make you not understand how it works. If you think about it, where did you get your understanding about diet and stuff like that? School? Hell no! You have been reading garbage misinformation for decades. If you don't believe me, find a source for what you "believe." A proper source.

Tell one person to track their food and adjust as necessary to their goals (good habits can be developed from this)....and the other to not stress out....lets see who makes the most progress.

You are not understanding this correctly. You don't seem to understand that a person's hunger will depend on their mental state.

For example, a person that is of good mental health and has no stress or other factors that could contribute to a negative state of mind. That person won't be able to over-eat.

That's why people of Buddhism and in the Muslim religion they fast. That's because a person cannot fast unless they have mental clarity and peace.

All in all I am almost more angry at the fact that I am typing this out to reply.

That's cute that you think you are doing this for me.

Thank you for your response.

 

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Glad to hear you have an open mind!


I agree! There are other factors that play apart as well.

I am not trying to dumb it down to make things simple. The human body is still extremely complicated and there are so many variables in each specific case that you need to take into consideration.

I could have written 3-4 times the amount that I did if I were to cover a lot of those other factors but at that point people won't even start reading. I wouldn't


Oh yes! Stress is one of the number one killers in my mind, stress can be underlying cause for obesity, drug addictions, divorces, sickness and diseases. Do I mean that sicknesses and diseases are directly caused by stress?! YES!

Do I believe that people can DIE from stress? YES!

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The Effect of Widowhood on Mortality by the Causes of Death of Both Spouses
The Effect of Widowhood on Mortality by the Causes of Death of Both Spouses
The increased likelihood for a recently widowed person to die—often called the “widowhood effect”—is one of the best documented examples of the effect of social relations on health.1 The widowhood effect has been found among men and women of all ages throughout the world.2–5 Recent longitudinal studies put the excess mortality of widowhood (compared with marriage) among the elderly between 30% and 90% in the first 3 months and around 15% in the months thereafter.1,6–8 These estimates are comparable across various statistical methodologies, including multivariate models that statistically control for a wide range of confounding factors,1,6,8,9 prompting increasing confidence in a causal basis of the widowhood effect.6,8,10,11
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I know my style of writing is very juvenile but the subject matter is extremely serious. Stress is killing Americans! Ruining lives and creating drug dependencies that create other problems and then you have a snowball effect of different drugs and ailments.




I strongly believe the statistics would go down, yes. Again, I am not trying to dumb it down, but there is a common denominator in all this STRESS being present.

I am not saying it is an easy task, I don't know how to relieve 100% of stress but I am getting better at it and noticing huge improvements in my life just from smiling more. It's a fake smile but it works!


Yeah, this is a huge red flag. I would argue that you are doing that because you are extremely stressed and you don't even realize the misery you are in. I don't mean to be judgemental but this behavior is a red flag if anything. Isolating, needing constant stimulation mentally and the oral fixation with ice cream. Yeah, that's bad!



I am extremely aware of my target audience when I write. Do my posts seem impromptu? They aren't.


To be honest, I don't care too much if people agree or not. This is how it is, if you want to debate me. State why I am wrong if you are feeling courageous.


No, that's not true. The science has been out there for decades, the true information is out there. It's just that people chose to read magazines and other TV shows that are made to make you not understand how it works. If you think about it, where did you get your understanding about diet and stuff like that? School? Hell no! You have been reading garbage misinformation for decades. If you don't believe me, find a source for what you "believe." A proper source.


You are not understanding this correctly. You don't seem to understand that a person's hunger will depend on their mental state.

For example, a person that is of good mental health and has no stress or other factors that could contribute to a negative state of mind. That person won't be able to over-eat.

That's why people of Buddhism and in the Muslim religion they fast. That's because a person cannot fast unless they have mental clarity and peace.


That's cute that you think you are doing this for me.

Thank you for your response.

No ones reading this long ass thing. Dude I honestly have no idea what you’re trying to get at here and this shit is fuvkin exausting me I’m out. I don’t think anyone here is even obese go take this shit to the lazy moms who gave up trying and they’ll eat it up like candy. You’re literally saying “do nothing and you’ll lose weight”