That's the reason I don't vote. I can't stand all the bleating while I'm standing in line at the polls.
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War - What is it good for?
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Well you should vote Flenser. It makes you feel good, like your part of the system that's helping make the right changes in the right direction. Without guidance from it's subjects the government would be out of control.
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War makes rich men richer, powerful men more powerful, it allows powerful men to show who has a bigger dick, kills off poorer people, allows government to hold greater control over it's people and cleans the earth of humans since we breed way to fast.
There are other benefits these are just a few.
There are other benefits these are just a few.
BTW HF. Do some research on specifically who drew up the maps outlining who would get what when the middle east was parceled out after WW1.[/QUOTE]
Britain, France and Russia.
By not voting, you become the sheep and the pawn of the political machine. If you have such strong feelings regarding how things are to be played out, then vote. Otherwise, IMO, you have no right to bitch.
You're a smart guy and probably a nice guy too, but it's obvious that your only concern is, "what's in it for me". If you want to change something. At the very least, do your share to make a change, otherwise, you're just bleating!
Britain, France and Russia.
Flenser, my misguided friend, you absolutely astonish me by your comments and criticisms of US interventions. You don’t vote merely because you can’t stand the bleating of the sheep while in line. I know this will sound corny to a guy with your outlook, but tell that to the souls of every servicemen who gave their lives or endured hardships you can’t even imagine, much less endure yourself, in wars since the birth of this nation. You have that freedom because they endured far more than a bleat or two. so even though the likes of you and every American has the right to vote.
By not voting, you become the sheep and the pawn of the political machine. If you have such strong feelings regarding how things are to be played out, then vote. Otherwise, IMO, you have no right to bitch.
You're a smart guy and probably a nice guy too, but it's obvious that your only concern is, "what's in it for me". If you want to change something. At the very least, do your share to make a change, otherwise, you're just bleating!
I think the frustration comes from the fact that people are not given much of a choice, when you get that high in to political offices, as to who they have to vote for. Twiddle-dee or twiddle-dum. The money factor comes in to play, you know this as well as I do. The answer? Start from the local dog catcher and work up. How long do we have?
By the way. William Yale was on the payroll of Standard oil of N.Y. when he was working for the State dept. in the Middle East. He was also in the employment of the British. You want to Google this, you'll have a hard time getting any in depth information about him. I learned why history researchers mucked around at The Library of Congress and the dusty basements of universities when they needed to do their research.
By the way. William Yale was on the payroll of Standard oil of N.Y. when he was working for the State dept. in the Middle East. He was also in the employment of the British. You want to Google this, you'll have a hard time getting any in depth information about him. I learned why history researchers mucked around at The Library of Congress and the dusty basements of universities when they needed to do their research.
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Sadly, I agree. The system we have in place allows narrow choices. Money is the major factor. Term limits and party affiliations are others. Doubt we'll see such a radical change in our lifetime, but that doesn't mean we have to give up the push for reform. It took the American colonists 18 years to fully gain independence. Took ten years of putting the process in place before declaring war with the British Empire. Of course, they didn't have 58 million people on government assistance as an incentive to not rock the boat. That's another story. Point is, you've got to start something to get something and keep it rolling.
I don’t find it corny. I find it sad. I shook off my programming 13 years ago, and discovered the world is a very different place than what I was led to believe.
I subscribe to the non-aggression principle. No one has a right to “vote” themselves the contents of their neighbor’s pockets. Voting (in this context) violates my morals.
I can make a single “donation” to the politician of my choice and gain more political power than 100 voters will ever have. The pawns are the voters. They don’t count, the counters do. The entrenched powers choose, and the media informs. It’s an incredibly efficient system. One that I admire, actually. I just don’t admire it enough to surrender my morals to take part in it.
God, Family, Country. In that order, and note that country doesn't refer to the federal government. They are very different things.
In response to your first 3 replies, I, in turn find them sad. We all have different viewpoints and different backgrounds.
God, Family, Country. In that order, and note that country doesn't refer to the federal government. They are very different things.[/QUOTE]
This is where we are in complete agreement!
God, Family, Country. In that order, and note that country doesn't refer to the federal government. They are very different things.[/QUOTE]
This is where we are in complete agreement!
I got rid of my television in 1996. My eyes were opening very quickly then to illusion that has been propagated to us for over a century and when I dropped television it came on like a ton of bricks.
Its not just the people on government assistance, it's the technological sheep that are being programmed day after day by tablets, laptops (yes, this one I am on), Smart?phones..... that have no connection with substance. They care about "hollywood stars," sports, bullshit politics and the "I can't miss my show" tv.
All those things disconnect us from our natural roots and takes us from the real integrity of life. Be it God or buddha, trees or nothing, that is what we are being drawn away from, daily.
Its not just the people on government assistance, it's the technological sheep that are being programmed day after day by tablets, laptops (yes, this one I am on), Smart?phones..... that have no connection with substance. They care about "hollywood stars," sports, bullshit politics and the "I can't miss my show" tv.
All those things disconnect us from our natural roots and takes us from the real integrity of life. Be it God or buddha, trees or nothing, that is what we are being drawn away from, daily.
This gives a very small peek at "Willie". Yes he was "secretly" sent to explore for oil in Palestine employed by Standard Oil. He and three others were posing as wealthy playboys visiting the holy land. He was doing surveys around the Dead Sea and Jordan. Standard oil an agreement to sell oil to Turkey (Ottoman empire). He worked for our State Department and British intelligence while still on Standards payroll. There is a lot more to Yale than you'll easily find on the internet.
It's good for raising taxes and destroying liberty...
http://archive.lewrockwell.com/north/north1002.html\
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http://archive.lewrockwell.com/north/north1002.html\
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voters scare politicians. the problem is the smart voters seem to stay home and the sheep end up voting in these fuck jobs. stop staying home and go vote. we actually out number the quack jobs. the reason we don't get better candidates, to many of the good guys have done crazy shit in the past. they are not good enough to sale to the general public, cause heaven forbid if any one has done drugs in the past or thinks legalizing drugs is a smart idea. 80% of the prison population is non violent drug offenders. we let out the violent people to put away non violent drug offends. WTF!!!!!! the sheep are brain washed into believing this is ok. this is just an example of how screwed up the sheep and the system.
Greenddog. Take a look at what Dr. Scally posted, if you haven't already, This may have something to do with our choices as they climb that political ladder.
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Bendahan S, Zehnder C, Pralong FoP, Antonakis J. Leader corruption depends on power and testosterone. The Leadership Quarterly.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1048984314000800
We used incentivized experimental games to manipulate leader power — the number of followers and the discretion leaders had to enforce their will.
Leaders had complete autonomy in deciding payouts to themselves and their followers.
Although leaders could make prosocial decisions to benefit the public good they could also abuse their power by invoking antisocial decisions, which reduced the total payouts to the group but increased the leaders' earnings.
In Study 1 (N = 478), we found that both amount of followers and discretionary choices independently predicted leader corruption.
In Study 2 (N = 240), we examined how power and individual differences (e.g., personality, hormones) affected leader corruption over time; power interacted with endogenous testosterone in predicting corruption, which was highest when leader power and baseline testosterone were both high.
Honesty predicted initial level of leader antisocial decisions; however, honesty did not shield leaders from the corruptive effect of power.
Greenddog. Take a look at what Dr. Scally posted, if you haven't already, This may have something to do with our choices as they climb that political ladder.
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Michael Scally MDDoctor of MedicineStaff Member
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Bendahan S, Zehnder C, Pralong FoP, Antonakis J. Leader corruption depends on power and testosterone. The Leadership Quarterly.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1048984314000800
This study verifies what I've always said before. If you're not corrupt before being in office, you will be as soon as you take office. Never considered the testosterone angle, but it makes sense. So,... the system is simply a result of our behaviors. Wonder how many of our leaders are on TRT? Lord Acton did give us hope in the second sentence of his quote on corruption when he said, "Great men are almost always bad men."
Sadly, I cannot state that I identify any of our political leaders of late to be anywhere near great.
"Power" that's a very strong aphrodisiac.
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I wouldn't be corrupt, but I would clean house of all the filth and corrupt! I guess I would use my power to cleanse the corrupt 
Just wondering if "power" can influence testosterone production?
But, as studies suggest, you would succumb to corruption yourself, thus continuing the cycle.I wouldn't be corrupt, but I would clean house of all the filth and corrupt! I guess I would use my power to cleanse the corrupt
