Watson Test-C (Domestic-Supply) - Blood Work - 2/2015 - LabCorp

[jackmeoff1]

What about all the other members on pharmaceutical test that have blood level relationships contrary to this x10 theory? Even in this very thread! Why is that ignored?

I don't expect those folks to elaborate because of the negative blow back they know will ensue.

This forum doesn't foster free thought. It may be "uncensored" but it is very much governed.

 

[dper726]

What about all the other members on pharmaceutical test that have blood level relationships contrary to this x10 theory? Even in this very thread! Why is that ignored?

I don't expect those folks to elaborate because of the negative blow back they know will ensue.

This forum doesn't foster free thought. It may be "uncensored" but it is very much governed.

post them all i hear from you is this person and that person did this and that.
I already told you.... post your input into this so it won't get ignored.

 

[Dr JIM]

He ain't got shit but is certainly FOS.

All these "bloods" were either using UGL gear OR the results were not PEAK levels from those using pharm gear.

Ya see I KNOW this to be the case bc I have quite a few patients on PHARM TRT and the 10 x rule is the consistent result.

This Whack Off clown is nothing more than another damn lying shill, pathetic!

 

[ThE SiCkNeSs]

Hey dr. Jim, is there any variables that can affect this ten x rule? Is there a body weight formula similar to the one used for say blood alcohol levels? Would a 150 lb man get 10x when a 300 lb man would get 5x? I'm just trying to figure this shit out as I am planing on starting my first cycles in 8 years and I wanna make sure my gear is up to par

 

[Dr JIM]

What your referring to I've addressed in prior posts. Simply put all drugs must be in relative equilibrium with the intravascular and the interstitial (the blood vessels and the space bt the BV and the cells respectively) space to obtain accurate BLOOD LEVELS.

That's to say the concentrations should be roughly equal in those areas where the concentration may shift rapidly bc of inherent physiologic mechanisms.
(I'll spare you the finer details for now)

Consequently the difference in someones TBW is not really that relevant bc most of our TBW (about 70%) is the cells themselves which have little influence on BLOOD values once steady state levels are reached.

So what important is to first achieve steady state BLOOD levels before obtaining a TT level. This is customarily achieved by obtaining a PEAK TT level after at least FIVE weekly injection have been completed.

The PEAK level is obtained around 24 to 36 hours AFTER the SIXTH INJECTION.
If performed correctly the overwhelming majority of people tested WILL reach a TT level between 8-10 times the dose injected. A level of 7 X is questionable and anything lower is an UNDER DOSED PRODUCT which is the norm in damn near all UGL products I've tested by HPLC.

JIM

 

[jackmeoff1]

post them all i hear from you is this person and that person did this and that.
I already told you.... post your input into this so it won't get ignored.

You said that you read the other thread. Also in the first 3 pages of this thread a few members said the same thing.

Either way, because you are lazy (or ignorant), I will collect all that data for you in an easy to read post. However, I won't get to it until tomorrow because I'm a little busy at the moment.

 

[Dr JIM]

You said that you read the other thread. Also in the first 3 pages of this thread a few members said the same thing.

Either way, because you are lazy (or ignorant), I will collect all that data for you in an easy to read post. However, I won't get to it until tomorrow because I'm a little busy at the moment.

YEA RIGHT SHILL!

You will post the same BS, UGL gear that misses the 10 X mark, non peak levels or levels obtained prior to the development of SS values.

You continue to claim the same BS as a means to an ends, protecting UGL from those UNFAIR Mean Meso Mates. Perhaps it's time you tried to convince those "fools" on another forum about your brow beating bullshit.

Bc as I've stated several times NO ONE credible is buying what your selling.

One thing you are right about, this forum is "governed" by those whom are granted the privilege to do so, bc they have EARNED the combined trust of it's membership. And consequently as a forum, Meso is much like a sovereign country and as such one in which YOU will never be granted CITIZENSHIP!

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

You continue to claim the same BS as a means to an ends, protecting UGL from those UNFAIR Mean Meso Mates. Perhaps it's time you tried to convince those "fools" on another forum about your brow beating bullshit.

It seems our onanistic friend hails from Appalachia. A quick search turned up this thread that was started by another troubled young man who has a sexual attraction to his 19-year-old cousin and was asking for advice. JerkOff "advised" him.

I've posted the thread title and a screenshot of JerkOff offering his "advice" below. Sometimes Meso really draws some sick and twisted freaks. LMFAO


I Have a Crush On My Younger Cousin
I Feel Like a Pervy Old Man In My Early 20s

 

[heady muscle]

So go Whack Off or Slap the Monkey elsewhere and locate another forum to spew your bullshit bc no credible Meso member is buying what your selling!

Best laugh I had in days! lol!

 

[heady muscle]

Obviously you didn't review my post history. I've been here for a bit in many different discussions. Also, I'm in other AAS forums.

But you seem to create turmoil where ever you go. Be it here, Phf, imf or evo.

 

[JackC4]

It seems our onanistic friend hails from Appalachia. A quick search turned up this thread that was started by another troubled young man who has a sexual attraction to his 19-year-old cousin and was asking for advice. JerkOff "advised" him.

I've posted the thread title and a screenshot of JerkOff offering his "advice" below. Sometimes Meso really draws some sick and twisted freaks. LMFAO


I Have a Crush On My Younger Cousin
I Feel Like a Pervy Old Man In My Early 20s

But are there nudes of the cousin in question ?

 

[jackmeoff1]

It seems our onanistic friend hails from Appalachia. A quick search turned up this thread that was started by another troubled young man who has a sexual attraction to his 19-year-old cousin and was asking for advice. JerkOff "advised" him.

I've posted the thread title and a screenshot of JerkOff offering his "advice" below. Sometimes Meso really draws some sick and twisted freaks. LMFAO


I Have a Crush On My Younger Cousin
I Feel Like a Pervy Old Man In My Early 20s

LOL. Ive never posted on that forum. you're reaching buddy. It only makes you look lame.

Maybe its the internet and a sex website might have a user using this name. Did you ever think that is a possibility?

Can you possibly come up with any more lame brain ideas?

 

[jackmeoff1]

post them all i hear from you is this person and that person did this and that.
I already told you.... post your input into this so it won't get ignored.

Attached is my first blood test results from TRT. This was at 12 weeks in. Dose is 200 mg per week. Bloods were taken 48 hours after injection. The testosterone is from a compounding pharmacy (I will post a pic of the script in another post):

 

[jackmeoff1]

But you seem to create turmoil where ever you go. Be it here, Phf, imf or evo.

Show me where I created turmoil on those sites?

 

[jackmeoff1]

post them all i hear from you is this person and that person did this and that.
I already told you.... post your input into this so it won't get ignored.

Here is a pic of my script. I have been using the same pharmacy since 2012. I have 7 other blood draws and NONE of the hit dose x8. ONE hit dose x7.

 

[jackmeoff1]

Point is, I posted more data in the contrary and rather than debate, all I get are personal insults or brought up on conspiracy theory. The reason is clear- the theory of blood value vs dose relationship is not scientifically grounded. It is an observation at best, outright false at worst. Tempers flare when I point this out and it is because people refuse to change their position. I am convinced no amount of data will change their minds. Probably has something to do with status over here, I don't know or care.

I am not defending ANY lab. Never was. I understand raws are underdosed, this has been proven in testing time and time again. My position isn't to give UGL's a pass, I am just simply pointing out that the measures some of you rely on aren't 100% quantifiable. Unfortunately dose x5 or 6 or 10 isn't exactly 100% conclusive of anything.

So what will follow:
Jim yells in caps that I am not on TRT and a liar, or that since I am on an AI it doesn't matter (even though AI's are now acceptable for everyone else), CBS scours the internet for his next lame brain conspiracy theory (check porn sites for my username, should come up with something) the sheep follow and not ONE of you will back of the "10x theory" in a scientific (or even logical) manner.

 

[heady muscle]

Show me where I created turmoil on those sites?

Listen. I am not going to recant your episodes. I don't have the time or energy.

You know.

You make some good points, but sometimes you are an antagonist. There is better ways of delivering your message, IMHO.

 

[Burrr]

sometimes you are an antagonist. .

Meso has a way of bringing that out in people, lol.

 

[Dr JIM]

Attached is my first blood test results from TRT. This was at 12 weeks in. Dose is 200 mg per week. Bloods were taken 48 hours after injection. The testosterone is from a compounding pharmacy (I will post a pic of the script in another post):

You said that you read the other thread. Also in the first 3 pages of this thread a few members said the same thing.

Either way, because you are lazy (or ignorant), I will collect all that data for you in an easy to read post. However, I won't get to it until tomorrow because I'm a little busy at the moment.

You mean ONE MEMBER using an UGL "Watson" DS product posted evidence ON THIS THREAD that revealed data UGL AAS are under dosed.

What about all the other members on pharmaceutical test that have blood level relationships contrary to this x10 theory? Even in this very thread! Why is that ignored?

Bc they don't exist Jack Yourself Off !

Now post something besides your ONE "TRT level" that missed the 10X mark clown.

Let's see all the data you claimed you WOULD POST yesterday that contradicts the 10 X rule.

It's crap like this that convinces those on this forum you're an UGL SHILL who is FOS, period.

 

[dper726]

I'm posting this to add to the data, the test is from a private lab on another board that I can't even order from directly so please don't ask!!

Blood draw was 48hrs after pin, 300mg/week split into 2 150mg shots.. TT 2390 so 7.97x dose..

It's a false e2 reading due to tren, I really need to remember to use labsmd instead of privatemdlabs while I'm on tren which is pretty much every cycle..

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As far as IGF-1, I've been running 4iu Serostim ED for 2.5 months.. I've heard you should expect 100 points on the test for every iu ran daily.. If anyone thinks 379 is not a good score let me know as I'm new to IGF-1 testing!! Thanks..

Here is johnny's result again falling in the range of 7x -10x. Lab was not even mentioned therefore serves neutral with no interest to gain from results.

I am just posting this for reference to our clan here, with all the 7x-10x rules on test levels and such i had bloods drawn on my trt. My baseline TT levels naturally were 173 ng/dl

Im on 200 mg test cyp every two weeks. Blood taken 48 hours post inj.
So basically 100mg a week came to 7x levels for MY body. View attachment 18447

Here is pharma base cyp once every two weeks injections 48 hours post bloods.