Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[biggerben69]

no actually its not but obviously you guys are completely incapable of simply reading, like i said its no wonder that all of the original meso members have long since disappeared, Millard must look at this place with complete disgust these days, truly sad

Sounds like you're calling Millard out? Ask him. You're way out of touch old timer. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Millard's proud as he can be where meso is concerned. Meso and the members expose silly guys like you with a quota of posts to make on the boards you visit in hopes of you infecting the place,
What's sickening is your pretending to care about anything but your wallet. You can get away with this nonsense at promuscle because your homies are there and it's pretty much just a scripted existence. We know your kind.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

You've been on the forums for 16 years and you don't have respect yet. You're tolerated because everyone knows you're retarded but believe me, the PMs I receive from your supposed friends are all laughing at you behind your back. They think you're a joke. Oh IM, if you only knew who was laughing at you...

Face the facts, Pantywaist. You are a laughingstock on every forum unfortunate enough to have you as a member. How tall are you IM? Are you even 5 ft? You have the worst case of little-man syndrome I've ever seen. You're all mouth and no bite. I bet even Danny DeVito has you beat. I bet you couldn't even get a job as Mickey Mouse at Disneyland because you don't meet the 5 ft height requirement. Try the circus, I hear they need freaks for the sideshow. You'll fit right in. I can see the headlines now: "See the world's first Italian midget bodybuilder, Pantywaist, as he flexes his 12 inch biceps!"

In addition to being a little-man with a big mouth, you're a gutless coward. You don't even have the balls to respond to Ben. You talk smack about him behind his back but hide like a scared little girl when he comes back. That's why you're a pantywaist. A fucking coward. A fucking chickenshit wop wearing Gucci for Kids because you can't fit into Men's clothes. You're supposed to be a grown up but you still wear Air Jordans. You actually wait for the latest version to come out like a 14-year-old wannabe gangbanger. I bet you wear one of those stupid Daffy Duck looking hats sideways on your pointy head. You're pants are probably falling down so everyone can see the shit stains on your satin panties. You know, the panties you got from Victoria's Secret. Through the mail, of course. You didn't want anyone to know, remember? Oops! I guess I just let the cat out of the bag. Sorry, IM.

I'm right, aren't I? I hitting close to the mark. LMAO

I heard one of your boards is looking for a mod too. Don't bother applying though - NO ONE'S ever made you a mod ANYWHERE - no one except for Naps' shill site, that is! But that doesn't really count, does it? Hell, even Tiller managed to talk himself into a mod position. That should tell you where you stand in the community. You're less than Tiller. LMFAO

Poor IM the Pantywaist. He tries so hard but he's still a fucking joke.

This post is so full of bullshit, I dont know where to start.. Oh yeah, Ill start from the beginning..LOL

Lets see, my 'friends' sent you PMs about me? But let me get this straight, out of all the members here at Meso, these friends of mine sent you PMs telling you how retarded and stupid I am? LMFAO! Ill give you $1k per PM/Email to post them up, word for word, and post who they came from. And Ill also give the guy you were talking to with the same deal. Cool? And Ill call your bluff once again, to prove you're full of shit.

As for me not responding to bigben..Ive already sent him a PM, and what I discuss with him is none of your fucking business. Im a coward? Lets meet up and see who the fucking coward is. You dont have the balls to meet me, you run your pathetic fat troll mouth constantly. And to be honest, its getting annoying and old.

Im still trying to figure out what you bring Meso, or any forum for that matter. You offer no steroid advice, workout advice, et. Your claim to fame is trolling and quoting other members posts. GREAT FUCKING JOB!

As for my fashion and what I wear..You're still wearing sketchers and buying suits from banana republic. Send me an email with your info, and Ill put you in touch with my italian designer suit hookup. Cant promise anything, but at least you would start to look somewhat decent, if thats even possible.

You make fun of me collecting jordans and my memorabilia collection. LOL.. My collection is worth more then the piece of shit car you drive and the shack of a house you live in. Ive been collecting memorabilia since I was 6-7 years old. Not that it matters, but I have a harmonica given to me by Johnny Cash at a concert many many years ago, baseball hat given to me by Reggie Jackson, baseball signed by Babe Ruth, and my jordans signed by the man himself at a private signing, limited edition..(pic attached) Yeah, Ive met him too. I have so much stuff, its crazy. When I finish my memorabilia room, Ill send a pic right over. Should be done later this year..

See thats the difference between you and I, Im VIP everywhere, not only on the forums, but in real life too. Im VIP out west in Vegas, and down south in Miami/South beach. I was invited to attend Derek Jeters black tie retirement party. Ill be sure to send you a pic of the bat I have him sign for me. Maybe Ill even post a pic of him and I, just to rub it in a little bit more too. Just to make you even look even more pathetic.

I love making you look even more stupid, and this will put the cherry on the cake. As for me being a Mod.. Ask around, I was a MOD at Mike Strongs 'TheVIPBOARD'.. Dont believe me? Ask Mugzy, Mike Strong, or Basskiller.. You see, I was voted into the position. Why? Because I am well liked, and trusted. I didnt ask for it like your lying assclown buddy dr jim did. Yeah, I know all about it. Who asks to be a Mod? Might as well ask to be VIP too.

And just for the record, I turned down a Mod position twice in the past 5 years. Only reason, I just dont have the time. Same reason I shut my forum down, I didnt have the effort to put in like it needed. Yeah, stupid fuck I owned a bodybuilding forum too. But you already knew that.. LOL

dr jim so wants to be respected on the body building forums, even Milliard dont want him. He was overlooked by Dr Scully, and now Dr Scully is resident doctor at Meso. Thats because Milliard thinks he is a joke, and was a joke at TID too.
But why dont you two start your own bodybuilding forum...I checked godaddy and this is available..

lyingassclownsofbodybuilding.com.. jimbo can be admin, and you can be trolling assclown supermod.

Anyways, Im done making you look even more stupid.. Have a nice week..

 

[muscle96ss]

Diapers, huh? You, 96, and Karl have come together to jack each other off here because you are all on the same team. That team is all about how to push and promote karl's whatever it is and make money off the younger members you're talking down to.
You aren't here by chance and you 3 didn't hang yrs ago anywhere.
You guys are promuscle guys now and as such aren't about the living the lifestyle or brotherhood you are pimping shit that isn't pharm gh(it's better than serostim according to you) while pretending to be innocent of any agenda.
Know your audience. We know what pm is all about, We know what you and the other hired hands are about. Nothing special.
You, conversely, are mixing it up with a guy that happens to be a pretty big deal. Has the inside on things guys want and strive to achieve.
You've got Brutus who is in the know...gman and the Doc. Respected by men on boards that aren't source first above all boards. You guys on pm and the like simply take ...strip miners of the community. You give nothing back. You leave broken promises, lighter wallets, and angry young men that you guys help lead to the lions and claim innocence when the source goes bad and takes off with the hard earned money of members only to begin to organize the next scheme.

You don't get it, there is no "team" and there is no such thing as "promuscle" guys. For you guys its either black or white, your either "meso" or your a bad guy. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are all here for same reason, to learn and share. Yes, there are some people out there trying to make money and scam, but not everyone is a bad guy. Just like in real life, you here about bad people everywhere, but I would like to believe that in general most people are good.

 

[muscle96ss]

I really don't know about his rep but if he is the same fella who distributes 'Rips", the GH many BB/Lifters boast about, a considerable portion of that generic lot is absolute BUNK based on testing 'ive performed.

However in fairness do I know HK was the re-saler of the GH i tested, (bc there is a lot of 'Rips" out there), nope. But one, with 2-3 still pending, came via the STRETCH scam wagon and I was told HK WAS indeed the source in that instance.

The results no GH, but roughly twenty percent of the dry weight consisted of a peptide the size and MW of GHRF and a few other amino acids such as Glycine, Tyrosine and Tryptophan. (These fellas aren't stupid and there is a VERY good reason for including those AA specifically)

Incidentally I've performed some 14-15 COMPLETE GH assays (not to be confused with a partial assay where the analysis is discontinued for a variety of reasons such as a MW not being cw GH) and perhaps ONLY ONE or TWO OF THE VIALS CONTAINED THE DRY WEIGHT AS LISTED ON THE VIAL!

What does that mean?

It's just another means of scamming people out of their hard earned money. For example even if the purity IS 95% at a stated weight of 10 mg for instance thats roughly 30IU/vial. But reducing the DRY WEIGHT by 50% also decreases the net yield in IU from 30 to 15IU!

Well F Jim what are you suggesting then, I mean the difference would be obvious right? NOT!!!?

Unless you KNOW the GH source VERY WELL WEIGH THE CONTENTS before use. Because even I was surprised how easy it was to disguise the dry weight of something like GH when it's thoroughly LYOPHILIZED (freeze dried)!

The scales MUST be a MG scale. They are relatively inexpensive ESPECIALLY compared to the cost of GH, I located one at Beds, Baths and Beyond for about $80 bucks.

regs
jim

What a bunch of shit, this only shows that you have no clue at all about whats going on. Firstly, Rips have been tested before in a completely transparent test where they were shown to be completely legit. The purity wasn't as high as pharm grade but there was a legit 13iu per vial as was claimed by TP. Also if you knew anything about the production of Rips, who was behind them, and where they were produced you would not be questioning them. I will spare you the details as none of it is relevant anymore since they are no longer in production. However, both HK and TP were the only direct legit sources to ensure authentic product and neither one of them ever sold a bunk Riptropin vial. Yep, I am a Riptropin shill too I guess.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Diapers, huh? You, 96, and Karl have come together to jack each other off here because you are all on the same team. That team is all about how to push and promote karl's whatever it is and make money off the younger members you're talking down to.
You aren't here by chance and you 3 didn't hang yrs ago anywhere.
You guys are promuscle guys now and as such aren't about the living the lifestyle or brotherhood you are pimping shit that isn't pharm gh(it's better than serostim according to you) while pretending to be innocent of any agenda.

Karl's thread at ProMuscle. Note the top three posters behind Karl. Coincidence?

 

[bigpoppachump]

Yes, there are some people out there trying to make money and scam, but not everyone is a bad guy.

Youre right! But Karl IS a bad guy. Intentional deception thread after thread is evidence of this.

 

[ufcguy32]

Lol no its no coincidence since I'm one of the first to use and try the product. Forgive me for having a big interest in something I purchased. I guess every person in every thread following or posting in a sponsor thread is a shill. It's not like I'm singing his praises and saying go buy his gh. I don't care if you do or don't buy it. It's ur decision. I post my own feedback and concerns Like anyone else would. I'm planning on doing serums. If it comes back bad believe me he will get blasted by me. I have no problem doing that if it's proven to be bad

 

[muscle96ss]

Karl's thread at ProMuscle. Note the top three posters behind Karl. Coincidence?

I got an idea genius. Why don't you read those posts and tell me how many of those posts are actually negative posts? Also, why don't you check and tell me how many of those posts are recommending people to buy the product? Lets see those statistics as those would be more meaningful, don't you think? Also, while you are at it, I challenge you to search through this entire 100 page cluster fuck and find 1 post where I am recommending people to buy Karl's GH. This is an open challenge not only to you CBS but to everyone and anyone on here. Lets see some actual facts, since that seems to be an issue here.

 

[Voltrader]

Why are you three here then? Morepain says we are laughing stock. UFC says the same thing every time. Muscle96 you are the only one who has conducted himself in a manner that deserves any respect. I don't understand it is pure coincidence that you three decide it was important to come and post about Karl and give him a fair shake. Where were you three before this? Why spend so much time here? It doesn't add up sorry.

We are laughing stock, internet tough guys. I have been watching the smear campaign. Something is at stake what is it? Oh it must be great Gh for all. Well guess what you have it over at PM. Karl can stay there his whole life but it gets tough over here and you guys show up. I just don't get the push.

BTW Morepain should of stayed home. Muscle96 was handling it just fine. Muscle96 you are right you have not recommended anything. The only fact is the trifecta showed up you three are here and that is a glaring red flag.

 

[ufcguy32]

Look dude. U can look at my posts on pro muscle in the same thread. I don't recommend anything. Why do I say the same thing.? Bc again I get falsely accused of shit. The story is the same. I came here after talking with mands and getting to know him and bc I started seeing more feedback here and questions and the fact that I heard mands was a trusted member here who had tested it. Why is that so hard for u to get? Him and I have kept in touch through the experience bc we both want the same thing the truth. I have no motives other wise. If someone accused u of something false would u just sit around and take it? No u wouldn't. Neither will I.

 

[mands]

Look dude. U can look at my posts on pro muscle in the same thread. I don't recommend anything. Why do I say the same thing.? Bc again I get falsely accused of shit. The story is the same. I came here after talking with mands and getting to know him and bc I started seeing more feedback here and questions and the fact that I heard mands was a trusted member here who had tested it. Why is that so hard for u to get? Him and I have kept in touch through the experience bc we both want the same thing the truth. I have no motives other wise. If someone accused u of something false would u just sit around and take it? No u wouldn't. Neither will I.

CBS knows as does Jim and others. They just protect MESO almost religiously and sometimes they don't realize they are doing more harm than good in a few cases.

I would suggest ignore them. @ufcguy32 I know you don't have a vested interest here. You are owed three kits as am I. We have had plenty of discussion over PM and I'm sure we are here for the same reasons... To learn, educate, find quality products, love discussing our experiences and the brother hood.

You are good in my book. Don' let them get to you. It's what they do best and that's why they are an asset to this board 90% of the time.

mands

 

[mands]

Why are you three here then? Morepain says we are laughing stock. UFC says the same thing every time. Muscle96 you are the only one who has conducted himself in a manner that deserves any respect. I don't understand it is pure coincidence that you three decide it was important to come and post about Karl and give him a fair shake. Where were you three before this? Why spend so much time here? It doesn't add up sorry.

We are laughing stock, internet tough guys. I have been watching the smear campaign. Something is at stake what is it? Oh it must be great Gh for all. Well guess what you have it over at PM. Karl can stay there his whole life but it gets tough over here and you guys show up. I just don't get the push.

BTW Morepain should of stayed home. Muscle96 was handling it just fine. Muscle96 you are right you have not recommended anything. The only fact is the trifecta showed up you three are here and that is a glaring red flag.

Hey V!!! I think they are like me. They want the truth. If it's bad or good. We want the truth.

They have been attacked personally and so has their character. As for myself, I felt the same way and responded back with hostility. It might look like we are supporting Karl by doing so but, we are not. Everyone that is being attacked here has said on many occasions that they think Karl should prove himself, his product and his GH should always be tested. And absolutely nobody in this thread or at over at PM has ever said order from Karl.

mands

 

[Millard]

no actually its not but obviously you guys are completely incapable of simply reading, like i said its no wonder that all of the original meso members have long since disappeared, Millard must look at this place with complete disgust these days, truly sad

On the contrary, I am happy to see all sides well-represented with @mands, @Dr JIM, @muscle96ss, @CensoredBoardsSuck, @ufcguy32 and @Western-Biotech taking the time to argue their point(s). The goal of this uncensored subforum is the pursuit of the truth. Any decision to restrict the speech of any side in the debate would hamper this goal.

 

[Voltrader]

Hey V!!! I think they are like me. They want the truth. If it's bad or good. We want the truth.

They have been attacked personally and so has their character. As for myself, I felt the same way and responded back with hostility. It might look like we are supporting Karl by doing so but, we are not. Everyone that is being attacked here has said on many occasions that they think Karl should prove himself, his product and his GH should always be tested. And absolutely nobody in this thread or at over at PM has ever said order from Karl.

mands

This thread has become so convoluted it is hard to see the forest through the trees ....so to speak.

I originally was lets stay on Karl and see where it goes. I thought it was a chance for the community to really step up and truly hold Karl to the fire through blood test and continued testing.

I think both sides have made mistakes in this thread. A guy like me old in my years but not in this internet ugl scene it is hard to decipher . Seems as if everyone has a agenda and I don't really know who is on the consumers side.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Karl's thread at ProMuscle. Note the top three posters behind Karl. Coincidence?

Pics speak a thousand words. Go read the posts you stupid prick, and get back to us. Another half ass response. I think jimbos balls are still stuck in your throat from last night.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

I got an idea genius. Why don't you read those posts and tell me how many of those posts are actually negative posts? Also, why don't you check and tell me how many of those posts are recommending people to buy the product? Lets see those statistics as those would be more meaningful, don't you think? Also, while you are at it, I challenge you to search through this entire 100 page cluster fuck and find 1 post where I am recommending people to buy Karl's GH. This is an open challenge not only to you CBS but to everyone and anyone on here. Lets see some actual facts, since that seems to be an issue here.

cbs doesnt post facts, his claim to fame is posting screen shots, that hold no merit. He wont challenge you or anyone with actual facts, just half ass responses that dont mean anything. His clusterfuck responses in this thread are more so just to suck off jim some more, before he goes off to work today..

 

[ufcguy32]

I completely understand. I've been on different boards since I was 20. Now about to be 36. I've been training my whole life and love the sport itself and I'm fascinated by different compounds particularly gh. Sometimes I may have come off as brash and defensive but my intention is good. I also have a a great deal of pride and if someone steps up in my face it's not in me to back down. So that being said , I've stayed here bc although it's way different here than pro muscle I can appreciate the effort by certain people who want to get this figured out. I hope this helps

This thread has become so convoluted it is hard to see the forest through the trees ....so to speak.

I originally was lets stay on Karl and see where it goes. I thought it was a chance for the community to really step up and truly hold Karl to the fire through blood test and continued testing.

I think both sides have made mistakes in this thread. A guy like me old in my years but not in this internet ugl scene it is hard to decipher . Seems as if everyone has a agenda and I don't really know who is on the consumers side.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Pics speak a thousand words. Go read the posts you stupid prick, and get back to us. Another half ass response. I think jimbos balls are still stuck in your throat from last night.

You begin with the aphorism that a picture is worth a thousand words and then suggest relying on words instead. Once again you demonstrate that you not only lack education, but also intelligence.

Anyone who is at least capable of walking around without drooling would be embarrassed by displaying such idiocy. The fact that you aren't says it all.

cbs doesnt post facts, his claim to fame is posting screen shots, that hold no merit. He wont challenge you or anyone with actual facts, just half ass responses that dont mean anything. His clusterfuck responses in this thread are more so just to suck off jim some more, before he goes off to work today..

You just described yourself to a T. Your posts on every board unfortunate enough to have been afflicted with your presence have consisted of nothing more than baseless allegations and bullshit. You've been exposed as a dimwit troll and two-bit hustler and everyone knows it, including some of your so-called "friends." LMFAO

 

[morepain]

if you look at most of my posts on Pro-M about western biotech you would see its me being pissed because it took forever to get what i was promised but yes its very good from what i can tell. As far as an agenda? Jesus i'm in the automation field, i could care less about this crap. I mainly came over to see if Phreezer and some of the old guys were still around and should have never said anything, but i know muscle96 and hes just a good guy, felt like i should chime in....Millard can go back thru the archives from many years past and he knows i've never been involved in any of this, i'm fortunate and don't need drug money thankfully. As for the rest of you if i offended i apologize it really was not my intent, i just hate to see good guys getting attacked when believe it or not they really are trying to provide some valuable feedback. honest opinion Millard, this place is just not the same as when the original mods were around , i wish you the best.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

You begin with the aphorism that a picture is worth a thousand words and then suggest relying on words instead. Once again you demonstrate that you not only lack education, but also intelligence.

Anyone who is at least capable of walking around without drooling would be embarrassed by displaying such idiocy. The fact that you aren't says it all.





You just described yourself to a T. Your posts on every board unfortunate enough to have been afflicted with your presence have consisted of nothing more than baseless allegations and bullshit. You've been exposed as a dimwit troll and two-bit hustler and everyone knows it, including some of your so-called "friends." LMFAO

Lack of education? LOL.. You havent proven to me, or anyone you even hold a degree, or even graduated anywhere. You just run your fucking fat, fucking, assclown mouth of yours every chance you get. Only time you dont run it, is when jimbos balls are in it. But, you have great grammar skills, you can copy/paste, and you can do screenshots..Congrats BRAH!!

Still waiting for that PM so I can give you some fashion ideas, tips and my tailors address. Banana republic was never in style, so dont know why you still insist on shopping there. You sound more like a jc penny or gap guy.. Real high class..