Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[ironwill1951]

im done reading this thread, you guys are just keeping these puke pieces of shit in the lime light by going over and over the same thing for 100 posts, they lied on the first post about the millions they spent and they are still just as full of shit today, let it go

 

[ironwill1951]

i could type those results, or get the boy next door to do it , get real test results i give up

 

[Western-Biotech]

Sorry, had to convert the file, find attached the summery of our QA outline, I'll post our specific results on any test, and u may confirm with your tests.

I also and in advance (before I post the results) offer to make cross anonymous random tests - Dr Jim as well as anyone else may participate,

Hint - it won't happen, as we all have learned Dr Jim is full of shit, and so is everyone who make claims without testing, and posting for his ego

 

[Western-Biotech]

Notes -

1. We'll run Peptide Map Full sequence (at least 12AA N-terminal) S-S bridge; free SH . Just like as accepted in USP

2. We declare on 95% purity, as this is the target purity in pharmacopuia, I more then expect the purity to be higher as shown in tests so far.

3. Most tests are done in our QA unit (again you may all confirm them with random testings). Some tests as a mandatory must be done on independent FDA approved labs, like the sterility test for instance. I'll post all tests, and may show exact signature of inspector to Millard or any accepted 3rd objective party

 

[biggerben69]

While a test may prove that particular sample is wonderful the scam is "Bait and Switch" with just the product being pushed and the names of the crooks changing because when it comes down to it the con men and the skill set they are taught when put into action have all been done before and just like the days of old is only successful intermittently.
The snake oil salesmen took their show on the road in covered wagons with promises of cure all and well scripted lies and answers to objections and skeptics. The shills of those days were plants that wandered into the crowds that gathered to take a drink of the potion to see their TB cured on the spot.
Same thing in our Community. The men behind the scenes recruit new fronts.

 

[Dr JIM]

Flapping your gums and actin like a internet gangsta doesn't change anything. As many times as you say the same thing doesn't make it true. Read your ''accusations'' and read the OP's answer to them. (I quoted and posted them for you) You bring no proof and like your pimp karl, you want ''someone else'' to do your work and prove for you.

You ask the questions you think pertaininent. I know this is hard for a person of limited intellect such as yourself, so I'll break it down to dummy terms. Ask him yourself, come up with some proof, so far it's you all by yourself beating this dead horse. To his credit mands has left the building

I mean it's ALMOST LIKE MH owes Karl rather than Karl owing MH a couple racks of GH.
You know it just doesn't feel right! Hmm but perhaps it's a "founding member " thing, lol!

 

[Dr JIM]

Totally agreed.. If it's 95.5% to you, go ahead and buy more to use muscleman.. Why need to convince us here?
And so much effort?

Now wait just a minute here Buster, MH is here to defend Karl bc it was clear we were not giving him a fair shot at selling ANOTHER generic lot of GH.

Hmm last time I checked damn near every generic source of GH is BUNK (PM sources excluded of course), so Karl got the same fair shake as anyone else.

Yep the mantra on Meso is, if your attempting to sell generic GH here your pushing JUNK, NOW PROVE US WRONG. Sounds pretty fair to me. And Karl has NOT proven anything except he wants others to do his work (such as lab tests) for him!

 

[Dr JIM]

Notes -

1. We'll run Peptide Map Full sequence (at least 12AA N-terminal) S-S bridge; free SH . Just like as accepted in USP

2. We declare on 95% purity, as this is the target purity in pharmacopuia, I more then expect the purity to be higher as shown in tests so far.

3. Most tests are done in our QA unit (again you may all confirm them with random testings). Some tests as a mandatory must be done on independent FDA approved labs, like the sterility test for instance. I'll post all tests, and may show exact signature of inspector to Millard or any accepted 3rd objective party

1) K WTF are you talking about! A peptide map involves trypsin cleavage of the ENTIRE GH MOLECULE, and not some lame terminal cross linkage! The latter means nothing except perhaps you or someone else can make a peptide 12 AA long!

2) DECLARING 95.5% purity doesn't mean SHIT, you must prove it! That's ANOTHER USP STANDARD!

3) "I'll post all tests", well crap Karl Ive yet to see you post anything except crapola which likely came from some other sources lab.

4) And would you stop with the "QA testing unit", or are you genuinely delusional?

 

[Western-Biotech]

Doc - I'll get back to u today regarding your remark on the AA seq - I got the test we'll do, I'll ask them specifically now to describe the test, I'll post the specified results anyhow in 3 weeks or less, so u may test and compare any random sample

I appreciate your input for this, again we follow USP standard test but I'll ask if it's terminal AA or full 191 AA , interesting

 

[Western-Biotech]

I got an answer by phone that they'll map all AA seq with a mess spec, I asked to mail me ASAP the exact technique, and will update u later. The posted tests are the required one by FDA, but if we may test more, or if I posted something invalid I'll fix it, I'll update u later

 

[Western-Biotech]

Ok doc - as promised I got a reply in mail, specified hereinafter regarding the A seq -

I think they'll run this is the test u suggested -

The test is:
Enzyme digest peptide mapping by LC-MS:
-Digest of the protein (by trypsin)- provides peptides
-Separation of the peptides by RP-HPLC
-On-line detection of the RP-HPLC using mass spectrometer (the method is
designated as LC-MS)
-Analysis of the data

The method enables:
1. Full length amino acid sequence (including N-terminus and C-terminus)
2. S-S bonds between Cystein residues in the molecule
3. Free S-H (free cystein residues)

N-terminal amino acid sequence by EDMAN Degradation is the method still in
use in many registered products. However, the LC-MS is more reliable
method, and thus, recommended for new products (recently I attended
meetings with German MOH and Israeli MOH).
EDMAN degradation method is still available as a service. If you insist

 

[muscle96ss]

I mean it's ALMOST LIKE MH owes Karl rather than Karl owing MH a couple racks of GH.
You know it just doesn't feel right! Hmm but perhaps it's a "founding member " thing, lol!

Just when I thought things were dying down and was ready to let things go for a while, you have to come up with another one of your stupid-ass unneccesary remarks that has nothing to do with anything, and draw me right back in. Its comments like these that get my engines going and perpetuate my involvement. So bring it on assclown!! Yeah, its a "founding member" thing as you put it. You act like Meso is the world and you are the all mighty god and everyone who doesn't agree with you is peons. You guys who wonder why I am here, its this guys antics right here. He can't look at things objectively, he can't look at the facts; all he does is this little sideshow antics to continue to detract from the issues at hand and focus on being the Meso bully and talk about irrelevant shit.

 

[muscle96ss]

Now wait just a minute here Buster, MH is here to defend Karl bc it was clear we were not giving him a fair shot at selling ANOTHER generic lot of GH.

Hmm last time I checked damn near every generic source of GH is BUNK (PM sources excluded of course), so Karl got the same fair shake as anyone else.

Yep the mantra on Meso is, if your attempting to sell generic GH here your pushing JUNK, NOW PROVE US WRONG. Sounds pretty fair to me. And Karl has NOT proven anything except he wants others to do his work (such as lab tests) for him!

Actually, there are quite a few generic GH's on the market now that are far from bunk. The majority of the good generics disappeared when the Hygetropin plant shut down the beginning of the year. But in the last several months the scenario has changed and legit GH is out there, and not just on PM. I could get much more specific then I would be accused of being a shill. After all it was only several months ago when people were accusing me of being a rep for TP.

 

[tileguy123]

Oh man what tease boo boo

 

[Dr JIM]

Sorry, had to convert the file, find attached the summery of our QA outline, I'll post our specific results on any test, and u may confirm with your tests.

I also and in advance (before I post the results) offer to make cross anonymous random tests - Dr Jim as well as anyone else may participate,

Hint - it won't happen, as we all have learned Dr Jim is full of shit, and so is everyone who make claims without testing, and posting for his ego

Is this what you call your "analytical results" K?

More narrative crapola.

Why don't you try looking at the tests I've posted? See the real time analyses including raw dat are displayed for EVERYONE to review.

That's another standard K not some ridiculous narrative summary of a tests said to have been performed!

I'm out of here. Karl your a fucking joke!

 

[Dr JIM]

Sorry, had to convert the file, find attached the summery of our QA outline, I'll post our specific results on any test, and u may confirm with your tests.

I also and in advance (before I post the results) offer to make cross anonymous random tests - Dr Jim as well as anyone else may participate,

Hint - it won't happen, as we all have learned Dr Jim is full of shit, and so is everyone who make claims without testing, and posting for his ego

i could type those results, or get the boy next door to do it , get real test results i give up

ON SPOT !!!

 

[tileguy123]

There is someone in china with good generics . I can't believe it's all faked . Just had some cheap blk tops test out at 15.6 of 5 iu's . Too bad source went away .
We need better options -

 

[kawilt]

There is someone in china with good generics . I can't believe it's all faked . Just had some cheap blk tops test out at 15.6 of 5 iu's . Too bad source went away .
We need better options -

Thanks tileguy... Keep it up...I've been following your posts on this. I've been bitching about this for a loooong time.

 

[tileguy123]

We do need more focus on GH. guess its not for everyone, but with my slew of joint issues , I very much need the connect now

 

[muscle96ss]

We do need more focus on GH. guess its not for everyone, but with my slew of joint issues , I very much need the connect now

Check out TSM's blues, he is on Outlaw. I have done 3 serum tests over the last several months on 3 different orders and they have all been between 27-30 and IGF-1 test recently at 380 to back it up as well. I guess I am on his payroll too.