Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

I think if you read things unbiased with a critical thinking you would see your posts really make you look like a doorknob.
You keep going back to the tests Jim released, so I asked Jim straight out if these were the full tests. He says NO. So how do you keep falling back to the tests Jim says are not complete?
You want everyone to believe what you ''said'', ''he'' said. Better to get it straight from the source. So again try actually reading a post rebutting yours instead of talking shit.
As it is now only Jim and Mands have and know the story on the tests. As I posted earlier it looks like Mands just got overly excited and ran with the partial release as Jim states. I did not say mands was lieing so STFU with that
How can you, me or anyone else say different ?

Holy fucking shit, you are the stupidest motherfucker on the planet of this earth. Read your fucking post moron!! You just said that mands got overly excited and ran with a partial release. What the fuck are you talking about? DR. JIM TOLDS MANDS THAT THE PURITY WAS 99.5%. THIS IS A FACT AND HAS NOT BEEN DISPUTED!!!! Get that through your fucking skull!! Jim chose not to release the data showing this because he didn't want to help Karl's sales. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!! OMG!!! And once again, you say that mands isn't lieing. Well mands told you straight out that Jim told him that the purity is 99.5%!! So then Jim must have lied by your accounts, right? There is no middle ground here that you keep wavering saying only mands and Jim know the truth. Give me a fucking break.
 
Holy fucking shit, you are the stupidest motherfucker on the planet of this earth. Read your fucking post moron!! You just said that mands got overly excited and ran with a partial release. What the fuck are you talking about? DR. JIM TOLDS MANDS THAT THE PURITY WAS 99.5%. THIS IS A FACT AND HAS NOT BEEN DISPUTED!!!! Get that through your fucking skull!! Jim chose not to release the data showing this because he didn't want to help Karl's sales. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!! OMG!!! And once again, you say that mands isn't lieing. Well mands told you straight out that Jim told him that the purity is 99.5%!! So then Jim must have lied by your accounts, right? There is no middle ground here that you keep wavering saying only mands and Jim know the truth. Give me a fucking break.
I really don't understand why this matters so much to you. Why so upset with no finacial interest in the outcome? I wouldn't put the effort in this thread that you have for a six figure salary... and you claim you are doing this out of the goodness in your heart to help the unable to afford pharm gh crowd?

Hint- when people get as pissed as you they walk away shaking their heads.... unless they have some sort of special reason for the success of the company or venture in question. Your unflagging need to be right and for karl to be considered a sound businessman is pretty ridiculous at this point.
 
I'm not taking Karl's side or any for that just read guys if Dr.Jim test is not complete but he is claiming that its garbage how we trust a test that's not done and for your info doc to shut you up I'll send you 2grand run the test and shut everyone up or you shut up and @biggerben69 you make a great point so either this thread is dead or hate to say it the test weren't complete still need answers is Karl's GH good or we he's done WB hey Karl put up or shut up send some raw over so we can test it not your finished product the crap you got that's gonna take ppls money we seen dime a dozen come just like you you wanna be trusted but no pick of your lab no nothing your not even following the scoc
 
This very specific batch to remind everyone was tested for perfect quality by full tests by Dr jim, as well as repeated superb random serum tests

Perfect quality does not include allergic reactions K, none of which I tested for.

How did you determine the "new batch" had no allergic issues? What specifically was the cause of these reactions.

Now understand if you haven't determined the CAUSE why should anyone believe your have a cure.

I suppose you have developed an AIDS vaccine also?

You simply don't know WTF your doing period!
 
I'm not taking Karl's side or any for that just read guys if Dr.Jim test is not complete but he is claiming that its garbage how we trust a test that's not done and for your info doc to shut you up I'll send you 2grand run the test and shut everyone up or you shut up and @biggerben69 you make a great point so either this thread is dead or hate to say it the test weren't complete still need answers is Karl's GH good or we he's done WB hey Karl put up or shut up send some raw over so we can test it not your finished product the crap you got that's gonna take ppls money we seen dime a dozen come just like you you wanna be trusted but no pick of your lab no nothing your not even following the scoc



Man, that's one helluva long sentence. Is your period key broken?

With all due respect, try using some punctuation because whatever you're trying to say is lost in that mess and it's unlikely anyone will try to decipher it.
 
I'm not taking Karl's side or any for that just read guys if Dr.Jim test is not complete but he is claiming that its garbage how we trust a test that's not done and for your info doc to shut you up I'll send you 2grand run the test and shut everyone up or you shut up and @biggerben69 you make a great point so either this thread is dead or hate to say it the test weren't complete still need answers is Karl's GH good or we he's done WB hey Karl put up or shut up send some raw over so we can test it not your finished product the crap you got that's gonna take ppls money we seen dime a dozen come just like you you wanna be trusted but no pick of your lab no nothing your not even following the scoc

Hey RD were you thinking out loud there.

Read the ENTIRE thread before you make yourself appear even more foolish than what you are!

Because it's clear your eating at the very bottom of Ks feet,and that's pretty damn low, IMO
 
I think if you read things unbiased with a critical thinking you would see your posts really make you look like a doorknob.
You keep going back to the tests Jim released, so I asked Jim straight out if these were the full tests. He says NO. So how do you keep falling back to the tests Jim says are not complete?
You want everyone to believe what you ''said'', ''he'' said. Better to get it straight from the source. So again try actually reading a post rebutting yours instead of talking shit.
As it is now only Jim and Mands have and know the story on the tests. As I posted earlier it looks like Mands just got overly excited and ran with the partial release as Jim states. I did not say mands was lieing so STFU with that
How can you, me or anyone else say different ?

GM cool your "jets" fella:)
I only mentioned neither MANDS or myself were lying bc certain special interests reporters such as UFC and MH have clearly suggested otherwise.

For those two K lap dogs it's B or W either I'm lying or MANDS is. Of course I've also mentioned both are looking for Meso headlines as saviors for Ks GH.

So GM I'm NOT even remotely suggesting your lying!

One more aspect of "my involvement" should be made perfectly clear. I tested this GH for one reason, for Meso members period. Whether that process in some way benefits a source I could care less!

But I will no allow my tests to support a product that is evenly remotely defective as is Ks GH from a medical perspective.

Ergo I ceased posting tests once it became obvious this product had some, no matter how negligible, health risks.

In this instance an unacceptable health risk is one in which the product in question would be rejected by certain agencies such as the FDA and USP!

Jim
 
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I really don't understand why this matters so much to you. Why so upset with no finacial interest in the outcome? I wouldn't put the effort in this thread that you have for a six figure salary... and you claim you are doing this out of the goodness in your heart to help the unable to afford pharm gh crowd?

Hint- when people get as pissed as you they walk away shaking their heads.... unless they have some sort of special reason for the success of the company or venture in question. Your unflagging need to be right and for karl to be considered a sound businessman is pretty ridiculous at this point.

Brutus, the answer is real simple, because I stick up for what I believe in and people like Jim rub me the wrong way and annoy the fuck out of me. I have gotten where I am in life because of my perfectionism and persistence. While many times these qualitites can be detrimental such as in cases like this where it would be easier to just walk away, I just can't do it. In addition it has become personal to a point where my character has been brought into question, so there is no backing down at this point; its not my nature.

Lets also look at this from a logic and common sense point of view. People say that I have some vested interest in this. The only vested interest I have is that I am still owed 3 kits from my original and only purchase made back in March(half of which belongs to a friend of mine as he went in on the order with me on my stupid recommendation and we both had written it off many months ago because like you I thought Karl was a scammer). But now lets assume that I had some vested interest in this and was a salesman. What actions would makes sense and what ones would not make sense. Well firstly, since I am a founding member on PM and am well respected there I would assume that would be my main place where I would make my sales. Now lets goto the sciroxx thread and the Western Biotech thread on PM and take a look at my posts. Wait, I haven't posted in the sciroxx thread in a long, long time and over the past month or so I have posted very little in the Western Biotech thread. Oh shit, I am not going to make much money that way. Well lets look a little deeper at all my posts in both threads. If you add them up, I have about as many posts ripping the hell out of Karl as I do positive posts. Wow, that doesn't sound like somebody who is trying to make sales. Now lets see, as a salesman I would probably go next to Anabolic Board since I have a good reputation on that board and that is the other board that I frequent the most. Lets see what I have written there. Wait a second, I don't even remember writing anything in that board about Karl, at least not anytime in the last several months that I can remember good or bad. So I am obviously not making any sales there either. So then all my sales must be coming from this thread, right? Now lets think long and hard about this one. Do you seriously think that anybody reading this thread who is not already involved and is reading this for the first time is going to order from Karl? If I came upon this thread just looking for some GH to purchase, there is no way in hell I would purchase anything after reading this read. And nobody with half a brain is going to buy any GH from Karl after reading this thread. So, if I am a salesman I would be long gone as there is no point in wasting my time here trying to sell something. Karl is obviously still here because of pride, but do you really think that any of you are going to purchase Karls GH or give it your blessing no matter how this thread turns out? So, just because I disagree with Jim and his actions doesn't make me a salesman. As I have stated before, I still have many questions unanswered about Karl and have my doubts that it is made from scratch. However, I do believe it is high quality as Jim's test revealed and I do believe that Karl intends to keep the quality good and not turn this into a scam as it would not benefit Karl in the long run(and Karl has been in the game many, many years so the long run is what he is here for). I have explained before why I feel this and will not rehash it again. Anyway, I undestand everyones doubts as Karls claims are way out there and have no problem with the pursuit of the truth. Its just that the path that Dr. Jim is leading you on is not the path to the truth and is not getting you any closer to the answers we all want. My job in this thread is not to defend Karl but to stick up for what I believe in and stick up for finding the truth. I am just pinned in a spot where I almost have to defend Karl because of the way he is being attacked. The bottom line is I believe that Karl is currently shipping high quality GH as I think we all agree based on Jim's tests(except for Gman who is on a whole different planet). I will continue to stick up for this and any attacks on me personally. The other questions about how, what, where it is made, I want answers just as bad as you guys and will continue to shoot down bogus theories like he is rebottling Humatrope and other stupid shit that I know is not true. While you guys here at Meso don't know me, my rep speaks volumes and anybody who truly knows me and what I have done on the boards over the many years knows that I have never been a rep for ANY source and have NEVER sold out for a source. All I do is stick up for what I believe in. Every once in a while my gut is wrong and something happens that defies logic; hopefully that doesn't happen here as it will make me look pretty bad, but I am confident in everything I post.
 
Man, that's one helluva long sentence. Is your period key broken?

With all due respect, try using some punctuation because whatever you're trying to say is lost in that mess and it's unlikely anyone will try to decipher it.

Haha simply put I'm not taking Karl's side or any if Dr.Jim test is not complete we shouldn't jump to conclusion and to shut him up put up the 2grand for the test Dr.Jim you did lie cuz the test wasn't complete as stated I may look like a fool but your just like Karl a lying asshole I care less of Karl's GH but don't talk shit unless you have every aspect of the GH test
 
Oh FYI TG to date I've tested 13, I think, generic GH samples and recently had another that just passed three of the initial tests performed.

But I'm now going to insist a bio-assay is conducted before I'm willing to post any results.

Be patient fella. Many if you BB spend a lifetime maintaining your health why jeopardize any or all that you have worked by using a substance that is defective, at least in my opinion.
 
Hey RD were you thinking out loud there.

Read the ENTIRE thread before you make yourself appear even more foolish than what you are!

Because it's clear your eating at the very bottom of Ks feet,and that's pretty damn low, IMO
As I said fuck Karl but fuck you to Dr.Jim you can't just say something without full proof you know what I'm not getting anything out of this I'm done
 
Brutus, the answer is real simple, because I stick up for what I believe in and people like Jim rub me the wrong way and annoy the fuck out of me. I have gotten where I am in life because of my perfectionism and persistence. While many times these qualitites can be detrimental such as in cases like this where it would be easier to just walk away, I just can't do it. In addition it has become personal to a point where my character has been brought into question, so there is no backing down at this point; its not my nature.

Lets also look at this from a logic and common sense point of view. People say that I have some vested interest in this. The only vested interest I have is that I am still owed 3 kits from my original and only purchase made back in March(half of which belongs to a friend of mine as he went in on the order with me on my stupid recommendation and we both had written it off many months ago because like you I thought Karl was a scammer). But now lets assume that I had some vested interest in this and was a salesman. What actions would makes sense and what ones would not make sense. Well firstly, since I am a founding member on PM and am well respected there I would assume that would be my main place where I would make my sales. Now lets goto the sciroxx thread and the Western Biotech thread on PM and take a look at my posts. Wait, I haven't posted in the sciroxx thread in a long, long time and over the past month or so I have posted very little in the Western Biotech thread. Oh shit, I am not going to make much money that way. Well lets look a little deeper at all my posts in both threads. If you add them up, I have about as many posts ripping the hell out of Karl as I do positive posts. Wow, that doesn't sound like somebody who is trying to make sales. Now lets see, as a salesman I would probably go next to Anabolic Board since I have a good reputation on that board and that is the other board that I frequent the most. Lets see what I have written there. Wait a second, I don't even remember writing anything in that board about Karl, at least not anytime in the last several months that I can remember good or bad. So I am obviously not making any sales there either. So then all my sales must be coming from this thread, right? Now lets think long and hard about this one. Do you seriously think that anybody reading this thread who is not already involved and is reading this for the first time is going to order from Karl? If I came upon this thread just looking for some GH to purchase, there is no way in hell I would purchase anything after reading this read. And nobody with half a brain is going to buy any GH from Karl after reading this thread. So, if I am a salesman I would be long gone as there is no point in wasting my time here trying to sell something. Karl is obviously still here because of pride, but do you really think that any of you are going to purchase Karls GH or give it your blessing no matter how this thread turns out? So, just because I disagree with Jim and his actions doesn't make me a salesman. As I have stated before, I still have many questions unanswered about Karl and have my doubts that it is made from scratch. However, I do believe it is high quality as Jim's test revealed and I do believe that Karl intends to keep the quality good and not turn this into a scam as it would not benefit Karl in the long run(and Karl has been in the game many, many years so the long run is what he is here for). I have explained before why I feel this and will not rehash it again. Anyway, I undestand everyones doubts as Karls claims are way out there and have no problem with the pursuit of the truth. Its just that the path that Dr. Jim is leading you on is not the path to the truth and is not getting you any closer to the answers we all want. My job in this thread is not to defend Karl but to stick up for what I believe in and stick up for finding the truth. I am just pinned in a spot where I almost have to defend Karl because of the way he is being attacked. The bottom line is I believe that Karl is currently shipping high quality GH as I think we all agree based on Jim's tests(except for Gman who is on a whole different planet). I will continue to stick up for this and any attacks on me personally. The other questions about how, what, where it is made, I want answers just as bad as you guys and will continue to shoot down bogus theories like he is rebottling Humatrope and other stupid shit that I know is not true. While you guys here at Meso don't know me, my rep speaks volumes and anybody who truly knows me and what I have done on the boards over the many years knows that I have never been a rep for ANY source and have NEVER sold out for a source. All I do is stick up for what I believe in. Every once in a while my gut is wrong and something happens that defies logic; hopefully that doesn't happen here as it will make me look pretty bad, but I am confident in everything I post.


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I hate being the Meso grammar police but the number of posts without punctuation or even paragraphs is becoming absurd. Why bother to write something no one else can understand? Why should the reader have to do all the work (to understand intent) when the writer is too lazy to use a period, comma or paragraph?

Muscle, it's obvious you put a lot of time and effort into that post but it's unlikely anyone is going to wade through that massive wall of text. I know I'm not. Sorry, but that's just reality.
 
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Haha simply put I'm not taking Karl's side or any if Dr.Jim test is not complete we shouldn't jump to conclusion and to shut him up put up the 2grand for the test Dr.Jim you did lie cuz the test wasn't complete as stated I may look like a fool but your just like Karl a lying asshole I care less of Karl's GH but don't talk shit unless you have every aspect of the GH test

Fascinating that you know more about these tests than I do!
So tell me tulip head which tests did I not complete?
 
Well ass face Jim if you look in the thread someone claimed they asked you if it was a complete test u said no and you can just answer the ? Did you do a full test on Karl's GH again not taking his side but if you did a test why not post them up and show Karl the crap he got or does he have quality GH (which he then would turn around and sell crap)
 
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