Oh yea excellent point NOT!
But I guess you better start Ks GH testing fund before he's forced to test his own damn product!
LMAO
But I guess you better start Ks GH testing fund before he's forced to test his own damn product!
LMAO
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Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH
- Thread starter Western-Biotech
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You got me Karl I do have an obvious agenda. That agenda is to share any knowledge I have that may be valuable to other members here in order for them to make educated decisions. I share that agenda with a majority of the members here Karl.
You see Meso members are a diverse group with vastly different life and employment histories. Different guys are able to weigh in on different things and through our collective experiences and wisdom we can generally get a pretty accurate read on things.
After thinking about this I've concluded that your real agenda is to make it into the GH Producing R&D/UGL Hall of Fame.
In order to reach this lofty goal you have invested "Millions of dollars, and I emphasize and repeat - MILLIONS - were invested in this venture." Your statement on Pg. 1 of the thread.
On this lab
Pg. 38 of this thread.
In order to sell the first batches of GH you produced at a loss. (Too tired to look up what page you said that on)
Now you are going to spend the hundreds of thousands of dollars that will be required in order to receive FDA approval. Pg. 96 of this thread
All of this while paying your professor and incurring all of the other expenses required to run a first class lab such as pictured above. All of the above facts have convinced me you are a magnanimous individual who has been placed on this earth for the benefit of those seeking GH on the black market.
With that said, I will again check out of this thread because as Bigben correctly points out I think this thing is dead anyway.
Gosh MP but should you ever become overwhelmed,bemused or intellectually grief stricken by the, no doubt, sublime fund of knowledge at your place of employment, rest assured Karl and that PM "founding member" MH, will still be here commanding our respect bc of who they are elsewhere!
Bu the end of the day you'll feel right as rain intellectually after posting your genuine and scientifically sound rebuttals! to their mindless bullshit
Unfortunately since there is no "greater challenge" on this thread I do understand your brief departure!
Bu the end of the day you'll feel right as rain intellectually after posting your genuine and scientifically sound rebuttals! to their mindless bullshit
Unfortunately since there is no "greater challenge" on this thread I do understand your brief departure!
muscle96ss
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Gosh MP but should you ever become overwhelmed,bemused or intellectually grief stricken by the, no doubt, sublime fund of knowledge at your place of employment, rest assured Karl and that PM "founding member" MH, will still be here commanding our respect bc of who they are elsewhere!
Bu the end of the day you'll feel right as rain intellectually after posting your genuine and scientifically sound rebuttals! to their mindless bullshit
Nothing but an assclown!!!
graniteman
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Hmm, getting awful upset for a guy with no financial stake...I don't remember ever getting this angry?
You really are too dumb to try and scam or rep for someone, bringing you out is much too easy.
You really are a dumb fuck, I hope you do not re-produce. Look at Jim's reply about his tests you ignorant fuck. He address' your dumb ass and how you keep saying he released a 99.5% purity claim. You treally are a dumb fuck, you run your mouth without reading, If you can disprove what the tester is saying do it or stfu. Oh, and I heard and he said doesn't equal proof dumbass.
Actually take the time to read this post, if the problem is you can't read, let me know
alphastrength50 said: ↑
come on brotha read the thread before making statements such as that. there was an analysis of 99.5% pure but everyone keeps fighting over stupid shit. question is will this gh continue to report high numbers.
Dr JIM Well-Known Member
NO there was NOT, so please post that study your referring to!!!!!
Dr JIM, Thursday at 9:18 PM Report
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graniteman
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I quoted a small one for you , I understand
Look you ass you have nothing but a liar target on you I'm not gonna keep on with this thread and your bullshit you have only proven that your a liar so you won doc keep this thread going yourself
muscle96ss
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I don't have a comeback for something this fucking stupid. There is no hope for you man!!! The reason I am upset with you is because I have NO PATIENCE FOR STUPIDITY!! You have compeltely twisted everything around. Do you not understand that this is the very reason that I am claiming that Jim lied and has been deceitful. A real quick summary for you. Jim tested mands GH. It tested at 99.5% per Jim. Jim never gave mands a hard copy of the purity test because he didn't want to be associated with promoting Karls sales. Everyone agreed that Karl had pure, real, GH; but that it had other problems and they didn't trust where it came from and thought Karl was going to scam.
Now Jim is trying to act like he didn't say the GH was 99.5% pure and use technical jargon to support his claims and confuse stupid idiots such as yourself; and its working. Listen to me one more time; the purity of the GH in mands sample has already been concluded some 70 pages ago. I don't see 1 person here claiming otherwise other than Jim. And Jim isn't even directly claiming that, his is indirectly claiming it. I have an idea, mands already told you straight out and directly that Jim told him that the purity was 99.5%. Why don't you quit beating around the bush and ask him straight up; did you tell mands this or not and is it true or not? He's already told you mands is not lying. So post it up and ask him; I challenge you.
tileguy123
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sweet so who the fuck has all the good shit ????
yeah i just did that LOL LOL
yeah i just did that LOL LOL
ironwill1951
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PLEASE LET THIS THREAD DIE IT HAS LIVED WAY TO LONG ALREADY.....
Hey MH when oh when oh when are you going to man up to Karl on this open forum we call Meso, and ask hey K where in the F are your studies supporting the "quality" of this GH of yours?
Or shall I answer that question for you? Sure why not, NEVER, bc JIM did the job your MULTIMILLION DOLLAR FACILITY could NOT do, lol!
Now MH is't crap like that which has convinced many here your agenda and loyalties lie with K, period!
Oh and another point if contention, not one member legitimately cares you were a "founding member" on PM !
That's because here on Meso you have 100 or so posts which makes you a noob whom is still wet behind the ears,and in need of regular diaper changes!
So you want respect earn it. and challenging me or others whom established their credibility with the majority of members shows just how much of an ego problem you have!
You want the earn some of that respect I was referring to, put K on spot about why he has yet to post his own damn lab tests!
Or shall I answer that question for you? Sure why not, NEVER, bc JIM did the job your MULTIMILLION DOLLAR FACILITY could NOT do, lol!
Now MH is't crap like that which has convinced many here your agenda and loyalties lie with K, period!
Oh and another point if contention, not one member legitimately cares you were a "founding member" on PM !
That's because here on Meso you have 100 or so posts which makes you a noob whom is still wet behind the ears,and in need of regular diaper changes!
So you want respect earn it. and challenging me or others whom established their credibility with the majority of members shows just how much of an ego problem you have!
You want the earn some of that respect I was referring to, put K on spot about why he has yet to post his own damn lab tests!
muscle96ss
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You have read my posts here and that is what you have chosen to pick out and come up with?? Come on doc, can't you do better than that. Listen, was are on the same team so to speak so I don't know why this has to be such a clusterfuck. Look, things are real simple, lets look at what he have established thus far:
What we agree upon and have been proven: It has been proven that mands sample contained high purity, good quality GH; but there are issues with the formula that cause injection reactions that are unacceptable in a final product. Can we admit that we agree upon these?
What we have not established: We have not established that Karl makes his GH from scratch and that Karl's facility that he owns does full quality control analysis/tests.
Look, I agree that some of Karls claims are way out there and that he is overdoing it on the sales end. But in the end, lets get some answers and find out what is really going on. You say you are committed to the Meso members. Well the speak to his professor so you can come back here and tell us what a sham it was and all the details that prove things are other than Karl states. Right now there is a shitload of speculation, but we need facts. My personal viewpoint is that Karl does not have a million dollar facility, etc... but that he does have a way to make a good quality Gh product and is commited to it. Compared to what is out there, that is good enough for me.
Agreed if K and his minions won't post again I won't either.
However I won't give K free reign to deceive the next noob whom prances onto Meso looking for GH.
Knowing K has spent Millions on this GH venture he will return touting his product over and over again.
But wait Dr Jim suppose K just wants to post supportive lab data? THAT WILL BE THE DAY ELVIS RETURNS FROM THE DEAD!
But wait Dr Jim suppose K just wants to post supportive lab data? THAT WILL BE THE DAY ELVIS RETURNS FROM THE DEAD!
What do you mean "return from the dead?" I saw Elvis 6 months ago at a choke-n-puke off I-69 just outside Brownsville, Texas and he was alive and well. A lot of misinformation in this thread.
graniteman
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Flapping your gums and actin like a internet gangsta doesn't change anything. As many times as you say the same thing doesn't make it true. Read your ''accusations'' and read the OP's answer to them. (I quoted and posted them for you) You bring no proof and like your pimp karl, you want ''someone else'' to do your work and prove for you.
You ask the questions you think pertaininent. I know this is hard for a person of limited intellect such as yourself, so I'll break it down to dummy terms. Ask him yourself, come up with some proof, so far it's you all by yourself beating this dead horse. To his credit mands has left the building
muscle96ss
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I suggest you start back at the beginning of this thread and reread it. Mands already stated that he was told that the purity was 99.5%. Doc states on page 30 that mands's tests were the most inclusive tests ever done on GH here before(not that the tests were incomplete). Doc says mands is not lieing(the only thing that doc has said that has you so confused is that he didn't release the final data, not that it wasn't performed; reading comprehension my friend). You are looking like a straight up ignorant moron. Everybody reading this knows what I am saying is true but doesn't have the balls to stand up and say so because they can't agree with me or it would look bad(cause I am a bad, bad guy looking to make some money on Karls GH. I could have gone with somebody like TP or others but chose Karl because of his stellar rep and man can I make some money). Which only goes to show that people don't want the truth and this isn't about right and wrong, they just want to stay with their little cliques.
sc0rcher
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Totally agreed.. If it's 95.5% to you, go ahead and buy more to use muscleman.. Why need to convince us here?
And so much effort?
muscle96ss
Subscriber
I explained it right below brutus's post!
Western-Biotech
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With your permission I'll try to take us to productive steps to try and get us to facts, and each may draw his conclusions.
In my post to follow you may find the outline of our quality assurance steps. In the batch to come this outline will be fully implemented, and so for any batch after of course. This set of tests will be submitted later for FDA approval, a license may be based upon them. Now to be clear I'm certainly not selling you a licensed product, not pretend to, nor claim we have one, what I do claim is that based on these tests a FDA approved product may be perfectly registered, so adhering to this QA measures yields a pharama quality (or if I shouldn't use the word pharma lets call it fine quality for human consumption according to USP standards).
I offered to make cross random anonymous tests to confirm my claims, we should do it, but I'm quite sure that you're very impotent as u proved to be, and keep the baseless fiction based posts and won't do shit but bla bla bullshit..... so I'll simply post our tests on the coming batch, same as I will for any batch, and any test may be done by any customer and confirm the quality - it'll match perfectly the tests I submit here
Pls raise any question or suggestion regarding this, I may specify more on each step or test for your preferences
In my post to follow you may find the outline of our quality assurance steps. In the batch to come this outline will be fully implemented, and so for any batch after of course. This set of tests will be submitted later for FDA approval, a license may be based upon them. Now to be clear I'm certainly not selling you a licensed product, not pretend to, nor claim we have one, what I do claim is that based on these tests a FDA approved product may be perfectly registered, so adhering to this QA measures yields a pharama quality (or if I shouldn't use the word pharma lets call it fine quality for human consumption according to USP standards).
I offered to make cross random anonymous tests to confirm my claims, we should do it, but I'm quite sure that you're very impotent as u proved to be, and keep the baseless fiction based posts and won't do shit but bla bla bullshit..... so I'll simply post our tests on the coming batch, same as I will for any batch, and any test may be done by any customer and confirm the quality - it'll match perfectly the tests I submit here
Pls raise any question or suggestion regarding this, I may specify more on each step or test for your preferences
Western-Biotech
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Trying to attach a summery ....
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