Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[graniteman]

I said very clearly that mess spec will be posted soon, and it's done on the new batch. Now tell me pls - tell me really - what is the mess spec for ? tell me pls what the mess spec will tell that SEC for instance not ?! enlighten us pls

Comment - I said we do HPLC for every step,

Again - mess spec will be posted as a fact, and as a fact you'll be able to compare any random order to it, I may post it in advance, or we may wait for your testings, and do cross testing

Well well it looks like karl has been doing some googling on testing GH..

I would think you would have mass spec on hand at a minimum for testing your compounds for impurities at each step? Or did you just start doing them? It's obvious you have no test results and that means no QC . It's why you had to recall your stuff and still owe people.

 

[graniteman]

So are other gh suppliers not subject to scrutiny because they don't claim they manufacture gh themselves or is there something else?

Now that Jim has basically given the green light for Astros gh who's to say Astro won't just switch to a cheaper and less pure gh in the future. Or maybe his gh supplier will switch it up on him. Will he be liable for supplying his own testing and analysis?

What steps should be taken and provided to the community from UGL's who carry and sell non pharm gh?

mands

Mands you know as well as everyone else Astro is a re-seller and has no control over what he gets. If he switched to a different GH it would be obvious. Generics are already under a shit ton of scrutiny and probably tested more than pharm grade.

You sound disappointed, angry maybe even a little defensive karl got shot down?

 

[graniteman]

Karl, the difference is that you are claiming to be a GH manufacturer, not a supplier. Herein lies the ridiculous nature of your claim. It has been weeks and weeks of all of us asking, and although some may believe these tests will help your case and some don't think it will matter, you have PROMISED these tests and continuously fail to produce them.

Instead you make claims like the one above. Shouldn't you as a "manufacturer" of pharma quality GH be held to a higher standard and have the ability to produce these tests? I don't think the answer to this is comparing yourself to the other labs that do not produce testing that should be at your fingertips with the kind of lab you claim to have.

Well that and his GH gave people welts and lumps in their legs and he had to ''recall'' it?

 

[ironwill1951]

cheap rock gut whiskey has better quality control than karl has on his gh,

 

[Western-Biotech]

Granitman - I posted that the purity of the GH is tested by us and defined by SDS-page and SEC tests and I posted the very tests we did. We declare on 98+% purity, and by test as u know it was found 99.5%.

The prouct is tested of course for toxins, pyrogen and sterility, and is stand with USP standards

 

[biggerben69]

cheap rock gut whiskey has better quality control than karl has on his gh,

At least the people KNOW when rock gut is working. No placebo there. It sounds like karl has approached this thing from the wrong angle. An IPO may have been a more accurate description allowing guys to get in on the ground floor knowing that all this testing of products from wherever needs to be done and that cash sent is going to be used/invested in the ground floor experimental phase of things and that they should not expect to receive anything they are guaranteed to be able to use.
Maybe that's where the money is? Karl will be able to offer wide spread testing on different generics or something other than selling pharm grade gh at generic prices. I know some that get pharm at close to generic prices. Some call it wholesale...I call it buy from the sick that need cash instead of pharm gh....or would RATHER have cash cuz trust when i tell you they need something.
All karl is doing is the same tests already in place but doing it on gh he's already sold to guys. You all don't need this guy. You can buy and test for yourselves. He's just using you and your money. He thought he had a good supplier so he took cash before the stuff was proven to be good. Or it was good and then he got shit product as happens to all generic gh buyers that get screwed.
He's just like us. He can't guarantee himself he's gonna buy good stuff. He just took the risk off himself and put it on you and your money as if you were lucky to have a chance at decent gh.

 

[biggerben69]

Karl just keeps spitting about tests. He went out of order. He should have product that is already been tested and THEN sell to you. Not take ur money buy gh then test cuz the shit may be bunk as is the case with people owed. The fancy tests just prove he got fucked by his suppliers with your money. All bad.

 

[Western-Biotech]

I see here some very biased fantasies

The product was tested - I posted our test for purity and clinical potency before any one even said the word tests. These are very valid tests - check back - which includes SDS-page, SEC and biological assay tests, which is quite sophisticated technique which validates the prolifiration effect of the GH on human cells. The independent test by Dr Jim confirmed it, I'm not sure how fra away from the truth u may stray with your baseless claims.

We broaden the set of tests on the new batch, and just like I said I'll post it when done, and u may all test and compare.

Now I'm not sure why I have to repeatedly post it, but I challenge u to arrange an expert who may discuss online with my professor any detail on the manufacturing or QA procedure, raise any issue, and learn the facts,

Check back on honest feedback on the quality from my customers along the thread (real customers) , just today a well known member posted his honest feedback as an example

Instead of making fools of yourself lets arrange a conversation between experts who may asses or refute my claims, lets compare tests, lets do something productive.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I see here some very biased fantasies

The product was tested - I posted our test for purity and clinical potency before any one even said the word tests. These are very valid tests - check back - which includes SDS-page, SEC and biological assay tests, which is quite sophisticated technique which validates the prolifiration effect of the GH on human cells. The independent test by Dr Jim confirmed it, I'm not sure how fra away from the truth u may stray with your baseless claims.

We broaden the set of tests on the new batch, and just like I said I'll post it when done, and u may all test and compare.

Now I'm not sure why I have to repeatedly post it, but I challenge u to arrange an expert who may discuss online with my professor any detail on the manufacturing or QA procedure, raise any issue, and learn the facts,

Check back on honest feedback on the quality from my customers along the thread (real customers) , just today a well known member posted his honest feedback as an example

Instead of making fools of yourself lets arrange a conversation between experts who may asses or refute my claims, lets compare tests, lets do something productive.

I don't care for all this "bla bla"..

 

[Dr JIM]

Manufacturers and remailers are under completely different guidelines... this whole thread is a shitshow becausr karl claimed to have invested millions in a gh manufacturing plant and he is lying. Thats all anyone is trying to make obvious- he is not manufacturing pharm gh... he is remailing shitty generic.

I thought everyone knew that's what jim is disputing? The only
thing karl is manufacturing is lies and labels.

That's absolutely correct you Brute!

But in that same vain, what I find even more telling is how frequently K has outright lied to support his initial BS of producing GH.

IMO whenever a source is caught lying red flags should be raised about their veracity, trustworthiness, reliability and ability to deliver a quality product AS PROMISED!

Indeed IMO K was using MY DAMN LAB TESTS to further prolong this ruse and to justify the sales of someone else's defective product.

Many knew K didn't produce SHIT, and the fact he never posted analytical data proved that point LONG AGO.

There's an old saying in politics that holds true to this day ESPECIALLY ON UNCENSORED VENUES LIKE MESO

"ITS THE LIE THAT GETS YA"

Bla, bla, bla
Jim

 

[Western-Biotech]

If u would have any interest in the truth Doc u would cooperate with my offers to test my claims. I think that replying to my offers by PMs with "FUCK YOU" indicates that you laugh in the face of any member with interest in the truth, and your impotent zero cooperation with my suggestion to talk to my professor live, or arrange cross tests just shows that your only interest is to tray as far as possible from reality and enjoy trolling this thread

I'm still more then open to any suggestion you have to test my claims

 

[old bro]

That's absolutely correct you Brute!

But in that same vain, what I find even more telling is how frequently K has outright lied to support his initial BS of producing GH.

IMO whenever a source is caught lying red flags should be raised about their veracity, trustworthiness, reliability and ability to deliver a quality product AS PROMISED!

Indeed IMO K was using MY DAMN LAB TESTS to further prolong this ruse and to justify the sales of someone else's defective product.

Many knew K didn't produce SHIT, and the fact he never posted analytical data proved that point LONG AGO.

There's an old saying in politics that holds true to this day ESPECIALLY ON UNCENSORED VENUES LIKE MESO

"ITS THE LIE THAT GETS YA"

Jim

I totally agree but with all the in fighting an what not and bias towards K its almost impossible at this point to see fact from fiction.

Like i told K at this point everything you do from here on out needs to he done perfect you say your gonna do it you better do it or your signing your own fate.

 

[Western-Biotech]

Agreed "old bro" - I would be here fighting for the truth if I wouldn't and won't take the steps to prove it, I said tests will be taken , I specified which test, including the exact specification of the one test the Doc asked for (AA seq - it meets his demand), I may specify on any other test I posted on - just ask. I said and I will post them when there are ready on the new batch, as then each and every customer may test and confirm, incl' the Doc

 

[Mr.Bravo]

Karl why did you lie to me? Now do you actually see why were all inside you? You said you would have the amino acid sequence for ower community 3 or 4 weeks ago. Now for the last time quit stalling were is that at? another thing Dr.Jim saide the stuff your "professor" and I use that term loosely weighed is not the correct weight for gh, then you try and tell us some bullshit story again I might add that the test that a professor did some how was messed up. Come now karl that dosnt sound like something a man of science would let happen. Believe it or not iam being polite as I possibly can in light of all your baseless claims. Karl you should quit while your ahead, I dont think your going to like it when one of the og's here victimize you.

 

[biggerben69]

The truth is usually the most simple explanation and not a multi million dollar complex that is just talk with no proof. He believes he can outlast us and bore us into submission and all that will be left is his shell game posts.

 

[Dylyna]

That's the warmest welcome I could get I guess.

I'm here daily, so if u do need pharma quality GH, or any relevant info you're welcome to inquire, and confirm all my statements.

Prices will be 4usd per IU, with discounts, but we'll run a very special deal of 1+1 very soon, so you may test it randomly, and ensure best serum tests you've ever experienced. We'll actually put it on a trial against pharma brand,

Deliveries are from a western country done by EMS. Product is made is western country. (I think I'm not allowed to specify exact location). Delivery is guaranteed.

In 14-20 days first delivery will get to the USA-domestic remailers.

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[mands]

Mands you know as well as everyone else Astro is a re-seller and has no control over what he gets. If he switched to a different GH it would be obvious. Generics are already under a shit ton of scrutiny and probably tested more than pharm grade.

You sound disappointed, angry maybe even a little defensive karl got shot down?

Not at all G Man!!! It was a serious question on how we can make resellers accountable. You really don't think they should be testing batches of gh they are receiving or their raw AAS powders?

mands

 

[Flounder]

Not at all G Man!!! It was a serious question on how we can make resellers accountable. You really don't think they should be testing batches of gh they are receiving or their raw AAS powders?

mands

Sounds to me like you are trying to deflect away from Karl's issues and his multi-million dollar super-duper gh lab. Since we all know, lol, that Karl is not a reseller but an actual manufacturer of the Heisenberg GH I think we should just stay on topic. Seriously though, I still find it amazing that even one single person could believe his story of investing millions to produce R&D gh. Sorry to say, but Karl's story is never gonna fly. There will always be us non-believers who will make it impossible for Karl to spread his wings here.

 

[biggerben69]

Ahhh.,,,the lovely Dylyna is in to buy....wonderful first post.

 

[ironwill1951]

karl , do you pay someone to post this shit as their first post ? or is he one of your partners in crime.

Can u please send me your list and instructions how to order ? Thanx