Okay here it goes. Being a unbiased participant in this recent fiasco(but mands Karl owes you 3 kits you will be biased. I could give a shit less about those kits)I have logged onto both
@Best Steroids and
@Western-Biotech 's accounts at eroids with their permission and passwords. This right here gave me the first thought that they both seemed pretty damn sure they were confident in what they were personally saying.
While looking into this I was looking for anything that stood out as suspicious. I first looked to see if there were identical numbers on convo's between them or if something was deleted. Both had exactly the same amount 34 in one chain of PM's and 2 others that were individual conversations from just Karl to Best. The PM's I read were from the last few days only. I guess there were some a month or two ago. I did not read those as I just looked at the current ones.
Second, I read through both parties PM's so that I could comprehend what was going on.
Third, I read through them again.
Lastly I have been PM'ing both Karl and Best to let them know what I was doing and then told them I had logged out and to change their password.
Here is my thoughts on the situation.
Both are telling the truth from what I see. Best is pissed(has every right to be) as he ordered a product and it wasn't delivered in a timely manner. He is wanting his money back instead of compensation with GH or AAS. He claims that LE came to his virgin delivery spot but, obviously impossible to prove unless he posted a police report. So this is irrelevant in Karl's eyes as it can't be proven and Karl states he shipped a month ago and Best is just now saying someone visited.
Karl is upset as he is being accused of sending LE to a house which he claims is bullshit in the PM's. Karl is also pissed because Best's statement and I quote:
"This is just the beginning fool, I've only just started...you have a very limited time to get your shit together and start making payments. Before I go to the next level!!
*************** and ************** aren't going to be very happy with you, if you do not refund me quickly!!!!
I will make this whole thing public if I don't get a refund soon. I have already started the ball rolling on Meso" end quote.
Karl has offered more than 6K in compensation to Best. Best does not want compensation.
Karl states that he is sorry he can't pay him back money immediately because money is tied up with this new gh venture and also paying back customers from the scitropin scandal. Best has given alternate ways to send money as to re-direct payments to collectors, etc. to be paid back. Which I see fair.
Standing out looking in, I don't see a scam developing. It's a customer wanting his money back and getting frustrated because the supplier is wanting to send product instead.
My unbiased opinion and if I were to give a suggestion to them individually would be this: I would tell Karl just to figure out a way to give Best his money back. As this would be best for Karl and his reputation. I would tell Best to take one of the options Karl has suggested and extra compensation for more than the initial 6K.
Others might see it differently. I'm just trying to be a mediator because of emotions and language barrier between them.
mands
