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I offered best to make an arbitration, which was the fair thing to do, I would have to follow any decision no matter the price, he could choose Mands or any other mediator. He ignored this, instead I got a war based of lies and now I have to reward him for his lies ? he could choose an arbitration and I would have to obey, he decided to lie and inflict as much damage as possible, we all see his lies, and he did threat to snitch, ask Mands. I will keep my word, and send what he I said, I will not break my word
 
I'll send him the products I said I will, and we agreed I will. If u were the mediator (for instance), like I suggested him, and u would say I need to pay I would have to respect this, I asked him to cooperate with me by multiple ways, he shames me with bullshit, I wrote to him, I've tried everything, he preferred a war based on lies, and now he asks for the trophy of being a liar ! If you ask for what I feel as fair I say I wouldn't send him shit now, he's a rat, but out of respect to this forum, to you, and to my original commitment I'll send him what I said I would, and do it as fast as I can to get this rat off my neck

It seems you are shaming Best with "baseless vicious lies to the face"..
 
I'll send him the products I said I will, and we agreed I will. If u were the mediator (for instance), like I suggested him, and u would say I need to pay I would have to respect this, I asked him to cooperate with me by multiple ways, he shames me with bullshit, I wrote to him, I've tried everything, he preferred a war based on lies, and now he asks for the trophy of being a liar ! If you ask for what I feel as fair I say I wouldn't send him shit now, he's a rat, but out of respect to this forum, to you, and to my original commitment I'll send him what I said I would, and do it as fast as I can to get this rat off my neck
Karl, would you agree to a mediator at this point? Someone who will help you settle this matter between you and best in the fairest interest possible?
 
I offered best to make an arbitration, which was the fair thing to do, I would have to follow any decision no matter the price, he could choose Mands or any other mediator. He ignored this, instead I got a war based of lies and now I have to reward him for his lies ? he could choose an arbitration and I would have to obey, he decided to lie and inflict as much damage as possible, we all see his lies, and he did threat to snitch, ask Mands. I will keep my word, and send what he I said, I will not break my word

Mands was the mediator and he said you should give him his money back!! Mands read everything.. You're fucking impossible..
 
Right here you lying piece of shit, try and spin this:

Okay here it goes. Being a unbiased participant in this recent fiasco(but mands Karl owes you 3 kits you will be biased. I could give a shit less about those kits)I have logged onto both @Best Steroids and @Western-Biotech 's accounts at eroids with their permission and passwords. This right here gave me the first thought that they both seemed pretty damn sure they were confident in what they were personally saying.

While looking into this I was looking for anything that stood out as suspicious. I first looked to see if there were identical numbers on convo's between them or if something was deleted. Both had exactly the same amount 34 in one chain of PM's and 2 others that were individual conversations from just Karl to Best. The PM's I read were from the last few days only. I guess there were some a month or two ago. I did not read those as I just looked at the current ones.

Second, I read through both parties PM's so that I could comprehend what was going on.

Third, I read through them again.

Lastly I have been PM'ing both Karl and Best to let them know what I was doing and then told them I had logged out and to change their password.

Here is my thoughts on the situation.

Both are telling the truth from what I see. Best is pissed(has every right to be) as he ordered a product and it wasn't delivered in a timely manner. He is wanting his money back instead of compensation with GH or AAS. He claims that LE came to his virgin delivery spot but, obviously impossible to prove unless he posted a police report. So this is irrelevant in Karl's eyes as it can't be proven and Karl states he shipped a month ago and Best is just now saying someone visited.

Karl is upset as he is being accused of sending LE to a house which he claims is bullshit in the PM's. Karl is also pissed because Best's statement and I quote:

"This is just the beginning fool, I've only just started...you have a very limited time to get your shit together and start making payments. Before I go to the next level!!

*************** and ************** aren't going to be very happy with you, if you do not refund me quickly!!!!

I will make this whole thing public if I don't get a refund soon. I have already started the ball rolling on Meso" end quote.

Karl has offered more than 6K in compensation to Best. Best does not want compensation.

Karl states that he is sorry he can't pay him back money immediately because money is tied up with this new gh venture and also paying back customers from the scitropin scandal. Best has given alternate ways to send money as to re-direct payments to collectors, etc. to be paid back. Which I see fair.

Standing out looking in, I don't see a scam developing. It's a customer wanting his money back and getting frustrated because the supplier is wanting to send product instead.

My unbiased opinion and if I were to give a suggestion to them individually would be this: I would tell Karl just to figure out a way to give Best his money back. As this would be best for Karl and his reputation. I would tell Best to take one of the options Karl has suggested and extra compensation for more than the initial 6K.

Others might see it differently. I'm just trying to be a mediator because of emotions and language barrier between them.

mands
 
Markus - I'm just dead angry as I begged for arbitration in first place, he ignored it, the guy made a war he thought he could win, he said I'm LE, I snitch on my distributors, and above all threat on my team, not sure about your mentality, but where I come from ...... you know what would be done to such rat .... fact

I have to face here for days this nonsense, stories on a visit at his addys, no proves ! stories that he asked for refund ? no we concluded on GH, this is in mails ! again he gives excuses that he deleted mails !

If u force me I'll respect the community, I deeply feel that I should simply keep my word and ship to him waht I said, I gave my word and will keep it
 
I'll send him the products I said I will, and we agreed I will. If u were the mediator (for instance), like I suggested him, and u would say I need to pay I would have to respect this, I asked him to cooperate with me by multiple ways, he shames me with bullshit, I wrote to him, I've tried everything, he preferred a war based on lies, and now he asks for the trophy of being a liar ! If you ask for what I feel as fair I say I wouldn't send him shit now, he's a rat, but out of respect to this forum, to you, and to my original commitment I'll send him what I said I would, and do it as fast as I can to get this rat off my neck

You will send me nothing. You had your chance but you blew it. I will send your tabs back. I am only willing to settle for a refund.

I never threatened to snitch. I wouldn't grass on my worst enemy, grassing is not in my nature and neither is threatening to. Everyone has seen the PM you are talking about and cannot see any threat of snitching/grassing despite the fact that you paste it in out of context, not the whole PM. Anyone can see that I suggested that you refund me quickly or your colleagues will not be happy with the damage you are causing to their reputation. Here it is in its entirety:

"You really are a simpleton aren't you? Get this through your thick head:

1) I DO NOT WANT YOUR GEAR.
2) I WILL NEVER GIVE YOU ANOTHER ADDRESS.
3) THE ONLY THING I AM WILLING TO ACCEPT IS A FULL REFUND.

Even if your claim to being broke is true (which I don't believe for one second), you could easily redirect customer payments to my receivers. You know that and I know that. Don't make me make the whole thing public!!

Until I get a full refund, I will go on every forum and expose you for what you are, including my suspicions of your cooperation with LE. Readers can draw their own conclusions.. I have already started the ball rolling on Meso:

https://thinksteroids.com/community...ves-customers-info-for-years.134358276/page-2

This is just the beginning fool, I've only just started...you have a very limited time to get your shit together and start making payments. Before I go to the next level!!

(colleague) and (colleague) aren't going to be very happy with you, if you do not refund me quickly!!!!

I will make this whole thing public if I don't get a refund soon. I have already started the ball rolling on Meso"

We are going round and round in circles can you not see that?

Are you going to refund me? It is a yes or no question!!
 
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You will send me nothing. You had your chance but you blew it. I will send your tabs back. I am only willing to settle for a refund.

I never threatened to snitch. I wouldn't grass on my worst enemy, grassing is not in my nature and neither is threatening to. Everyone has seen the PM you are talking about and cannot see any threat of snitching/grassing despite the fact that you paste it in out of context, not the whole PM. Anyone can see that I suggested that you refund me quickly or your colleagues will not be happy with the damage you are causing to their reputation. Here it is in its entirety:

"You really are a simpleton aren't you? Get this through your thick head:

1) I DO NOT WANT YOUR GEAR.
2) I WILL NEVER GIVE YOU ANOTHER ADDRESS.
3) THE ONLY THING I AM WILLING TO ACCEPT IS A FULL REFUND.

Even if your claim to being broke is true (which I don't believe for one second), you could easily redirect customer payments to my receivers. You know that and I know that. Don't make me make the whole thing public!!

Until I get a full refund, I will go on every forum and expose you for what you are, including my suspicions of your cooperation with LE. Readers can draw their own conclusions.. I have already started the ball rolling on Meso:

https://thinksteroids.com/community...ves-customers-info-for-years.134358276/page-2

This is just the beginning fool, I've only just started...you have a very limited time to get your shit together and start making payments. Before I go to the next level!!

Colleague and Colleague aren't going to be very happy with you, if you do not refund me quickly!!!!

I will make this whole thing public if I don't get a refund soon. I have already started the ball rolling on Meso"

We are going round and round in circles can you not see that?

Are you going to refund me? It is a yes or no question!!
Best, I suggest you edit that shit right away. That ain't right
 
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Karl, wouldn't is just be easier to give him his money back at this point? You guys obviously aren't going to conduct any future business and he has received nothing that he ordered. Give him his money back minus your actual cost of the tabs and then when you receive the tabs back, give him the remainder due. This should have happened in the very beginning when you couldn't provide the oils that you both agree were the original deal. The fact that he asked for a refund after the original deal went sour makes all amended agreements irrelevant.

I agree muscles, any decent source would have agreed to refund me weeks ago. I'm glad everyone can now see what a terrible source this guy is.

If you are in agreement I will send the tabs to you to forward onto Karl. We need to do it this way because I know Karl will either deny receiving them or claim I sent less back than he sent me. I do not want them whether he refunds me or not They are useless to me and I never asked for them.
 
My apologies Karl. This was a genuine mistake and I'm sure no damage has been done. it was only up for a handful of minutes. I posted this PM before and edited the names out so you know I had and have no intention of revealing names publicly.

If you stopped going round and round in circles, prattling on endlessly, making me tediously repeat myself time after time, it would not have happened!!
 
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