Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

What did MH call you on page 3, line 23, word 19?

Yea there is is an ASSCLOWN!
Explain to K MH!
 
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One can only wonder how many other times you have substituted products for customers.

Well how kind but should that be a unilateral decision? F no!

This is how you scam people K. Substitute products and wear them down with your bullshit, forcing them to believe they are LUCKY to get anything bc of "misbehaviors and lies"

Then you expedite some settlement by sending LE to their home.

Your a piece of TRASH K!
 
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It all comes out in the wash doesn't it Karl. People like you eventually show their true colors. Really they just can't help it bc that's who they are.

Those who believe K is above reproach in the UGL world of AAS and hasn't duped, scammed, misled, or deliberately misinformed customers are living in some dream world, IMO

CRAP the FACT K maintains a profile of consumers is telling enough.

This guy will Fuck your/our friends in a heart beat, and walk away his a smile on his face, somehow feeling justified.
 
I understand your emotional investment, I understand this has gotten out of hand. My suggestion is an intermediary who is unbiased to help resolve this, I'm trying to be as neutral as possible... That is my suggestion since it can't be resolved here and now.

Would you agree to that, Karl?

Maybe muscle or someone else has other suggestions

That a way MH, how noble of you to second Marcus's decision as the "intermediary" who is unbiased, lol!

Karl advertises on your forum MH!

However what's even more important after more than 130 pages on this thread, MH has done NOTHING but support K.

Incidentally any intermediary MUST be approved by both sides of a dispute.

Thank goodness we have one thread MHs like MH willing to step forward and answer the calling to defend defenseless sources like Karl.

At-a-boy MH
 
That a way MH, how noble of you to second Marcus's decision as the "intermediary" who is unbiased, lol!

Karl advertises on your forum MH!

However what's even more important after more than 130 pages on this thread, MH has done NOTHING but support K.

Incidentally any intermediary MUST be approved by both sides of a dispute.

Thank goodness we have one thread MHs like MH willing to step forward and answer the calling to defend defenseless sources like Karl.

At-a-boy MH

What the hell are you talking about Jim? I never offered to be an intermediary and I in fact posted earlier today, after more info came out, that Karl needs to pay back Best. So if I were the intermediary(which I am not), you aleady know what my decision would be, and its not in Karl's favor. So why are you arguing with me and putting me down? We actually already came to an agreement earlier today that Best is willing to accept oils under certain provisions and Karl has agreed. So let the 2 sides do their parts and leave things be for now. Why is that whenever it seems like we have things pinned down and are heading towards a resolution, you have to butt in with your circus sideshow and detract from what is going on?
 
Read the PMs, and mands may confirm - I said I have oils

Stop talking on LE, stop this.

Now I really deleted all info, my sites were hacked last night, and I still suspect u are involved.

So give me in PM an addy

Wtf...I ordered oils over three months ago and it took me going public to shame you and your business ethic before you agreed to ship me what I originally ordered. 3 days ago when I started going public, you did mention briefly, in a rambling essay length PM, "I may ship oils to u from Cambodia from a pharma factory my associate owns as well and label it as Sciroxx." Of course I ignored this as it sounds to me like you are suggesting relabeling other brands as Sciroxx.

I have extremely high standards and would never sell my customers relabeled oils of another brand.

I have no faith in you, don't trust you, can't be sure of what is in those vials and the honest truth is that I am only agreeing to the oils because I know I will never get a refund.

I would much prefer a refund which any legitimate source would not have a problem with, however, as I seem to have found the source from hell, who needed publicly shaming to reveal that he can, after all, supply oils and send them immediately, then I will have to accept that.

I do however think that all our correspondence should be done here in public so everyone can see how this pans out. Remember, 3 months of PM's and emails got me nowhere. Only when I went public did I get any kind of resolution so it stands to reason we should do this in public. Maybe you can redeem yourself in some way by sticking to the deal and shipping me oils first thing Monday.

Now please tell me what oils you have available and in what quantities so I can order oils to the value of $6081.55 at the prices that we agreed.
 
Wtf...I ordered oils over three months ago and it took me going public to shame you and your business ethic before you agreed to ship me what I originally ordered. 3 days ago when I started going public, you did mention briefly, in a rambling essay length PM, "I may ship oils to u from Cambodia from a pharma factory my associate owns as well and label it as Sciroxx." Of course I ignored this as it sounds to me like you are suggesting relabeling other brands as Sciroxx.

I have extremely high standards and would never sell my customers relabeled oils of another brand.

Relabeling vials to pass off as Sciroxx!! Just like with the first batch of GH you put out Karl.. You're a shady shyster, the evidence in this thread is mounting beyond what I ever could have imagined.. Wow.. Awesome job showing the community who you really are, bravo..
 
I have no faith in you, don't trust you, can't be sure of what is in those vials and the honest truth is that I am only agreeing to the oils because I know I will never get a refund.

I would much prefer a refund


It's too bad you gave in and agreed to accept oils. I don't believe ol' Karl could have taken the heat much longer before he broke and agreed to refund your money.

Personally, I wouldn't expect whatever oils he sends you to be much good. If he couldn't fill your order before, there's no reason to believe he'll be able to fill it now, and I suspect that's why he's talking about relabeling some Cambodian crapola.

And Cambodia? WTF! C'mon Karl, who orders gear from Cambodia?

I strongly recommend you have HPLC-MS done before selling whatever you get to your customers, Best. And that's assuming you actually receive anything which I wouldn't count on.


BTW, to all the naysayers out there who love to complain about Meso being uncensored: you just saw the power of Meso's uncensored format in action. With no moderators banning people and deleting posts that are critical of a paying sponsor, Meso members were able to put enough pressure on Karl to force him to honor his agreement. On a censored source board, the moderators would have jumped to Karl's rescue before he ever felt the heat. There's no doubt in my mind that Best's problem would never have been resolved on ANY other forum.
 
It's too bad you gave in and agreed to accept oils. I don't believe ol' Karl could have taken the heat much longer before he broke and agreed to refund your money.

Personally, I wouldn't expect whatever oils he sends you to be much good. If he couldn't fill your order before, there's no reason to believe he'll be able to fill it now, and I suspect that's why he's talking about relabeling some Cambodian crapola.

And Cambodia? WTF! C'mon Karl, who orders gear from Cambodia?

I strongly recommend you have HPLC-MS done before selling whatever you get to your customers, Best. And that's assuming you actually receive anything which I wouldn't count on.


BTW, to all the naysayers out there who love to complain about Meso being uncensored: you just saw the power of Meso's uncensored format in action. With no moderators banning people and deleting posts that are critical of a paying sponsor, Meso members were able to put enough pressure on Karl to force him to honor his agreement. On a censored source board, the moderators would have jumped to Karl's rescue before he ever felt the heat. There's no doubt in my mind that Best's problem would never have been resolved on ANY other forum.
Ha ha, you have more faith than me. I doubt very much that Karl would ever have refunded me or ever will. Fact is I knew he was a scammer as soon as I sent him money and the excuses started. You should have heard the promises he made just before I sent the funds.

As soon as I agreed to him sending the oils, he PM'd me asking if he sends the oils will I "fix" posts on other forums? I refused and told him that I would give an honest appraisal of my experiences with his services.

I hear ya and I agree about the power of this board. This board helped to expose Karl for what he is and force him to confront his obligations. I doubt very much that I will receive anything and if I do, I would never sell it on to my customers.

My only endeavor in this whole sorry saga, was to expose Karl for what he is and to protect others from not only throwing their money away, but from potentially harming themselves with substances purchased from him. Karl is what gives our business a bad name. Karl is the epitome of a bad source!!
 
Your name wasn't out there and I doubt you give a flying fuck about those people anyway you disingenuous fuck.. It was up for a couple minutes..
Hear hear...if he did give a flying fuck about those people, he would have pm'd me on the quiet and asked me to edit it before anyone noticed. What did he do? He started shouting from the rooftops, screaming blue murder, attracting more attention, to this relatively benign situation and endangering his colleagues just to get one up on me.
 
It's too bad you gave in and agreed to accept oils. I don't believe ol' Karl could have taken the heat much longer before he broke and agreed to refund your money.

Personally, I wouldn't expect whatever oils he sends you to be much good. If he couldn't fill your order before, there's no reason to believe he'll be able to fill it now, and I suspect that's why he's talking about relabeling some Cambodian crapola.

And Cambodia? WTF! C'mon Karl, who orders gear from Cambodia?

I strongly recommend you have HPLC-MS done before selling whatever you get to your customers, Best. And that's assuming you actually receive anything which I wouldn't count on.


BTW, to all the naysayers out there who love to complain about Meso being uncensored: you just saw the power of Meso's uncensored format in action. With no moderators banning people and deleting posts that are critical of a paying sponsor, Meso members were able to put enough pressure on Karl to force him to honor his agreement. On a censored source board, the moderators would have jumped to Karl's rescue before he ever felt the heat. There's no doubt in my mind that Best's problem would never have been resolved on ANY other forum.

Agreed we're still working on that GH thing, but look what we are up against, :)

Meso is run by a bunch of internet "bullies" whose commentary wouldn't be tolerated elsewhere, yea well now we know WHY right, MH!
 
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Now wait just one minute Mr CBS are you saying Karl LIED????

Incidentally didn't we KNOW THAT, already? Lol!
 
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