Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[Dr JIM]

I'll show to Mands in 24-48 hours the toxins tests, no problem - no prob from our sourcing FDA approved lab

I provided with a valid set of tests, A VERY VALID SET OF TESTS, I can't believe I repeat on it for the 999 times, I'll post next week also AA seq. Now tell me where on USP a full AA seq is defined pls, I post it anyhow, and we'll follow it from now on anyhow, it's not a must requirment.

Now I still can't figure out why u can't make a scientific conversation with my team and raise any claim, they'll specify their method, approach and replies to your claims, and each will have his opinion and conclusions and we may post it and learn.

I guess you're full of shit, anyone would raise the glove for this community

Yea, yea, yea some old song and dance! If you have posted these tests previously tell me what pages they are on in this thread K. It seems that task would prove to be quite simplistic, even for YOU, since you have posted them "999 TIMES".

Again showing ONE INDIVIDUAL such as MANDS is NOT the same as POSTING on an open forum, K and is a clear indication you have something to hide. Damn you have become oh so predictable!

Damn I just can't wait to inspect K's peptide frag data, if it exists, which I seriously doubt.

SO POST THE TESTS ON THE OPEN FORUM K or the criticism will only mount!

ANY LUCK ON THOSE CONFIRMATORY ANALYTICAL GH TESTS K, NOT!

What a crock of repetitive SHIT

 

[Western-Biotech]

The toxins tests simply includes the number of toxins per ml of standarized solution, u asked for it so I provide it, I won't put it with the signature of a FDA lab, if u have any other member u prefer and I may trust I may show it to him,

U are still locked with baseless claims, instead of contributing anything, or making any productive step to refute my claims

I'm sure you'll post again some nonsense in few minutes, but it's simple - your last claim was to conduct full AA seq - I except this and will post such valid tests, anything else to add ?

 

[Dr JIM]

ASKED AND ANSWERED, THE OPEN FORUM!

 

[ironwill1951]

damm karl give it up cant you see its you and your shills, and then their are the rest of us and we dont believe anything you say anymore , take the little bit if dignity you have left and go some where else, preferably far far away...

 

[mands]

Are you ignoring @muscle96ss again @Dr JIM? You know he has a valid point.

mands

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

you're locked with your lies

Indeed! Perhaps you and others need reminding of how YOU are locked in with your lies. There's no question that you deflect, obfuscate, complicate, confound, obscure, befuddle and conceal throughout this thread - we all agree on that. But you also lie. Unfortunately, you can only run from those lies, Karl; you can't hide from them.

I'm not sure if when said lying you refer to me being SX1 - I'm simply not, I think that some members here know this from start.

Dear Members,
My name is Karl, I'm the founder of Sciroxx, and one of the associates in a new GH venture called Western-BioTech.

 

[mands]

Indeed! Perhaps you and others need reminding of how YOU are locked in with your lies. There's no question that you deflect, obfuscate, complicate, confound, obscure, befuddle and conceal throughout this thread - we all agree on that. But you also lie. Unfortunately, you can only run from those lies, Karl; you can't hide from them.

Oh I thought you were defining Jim's actions in this thread CBS. Sorry carry on.

On a serious note, I do believe Jim will give his honest opinion of any test and or analysis posted by Karl. He has no reason not to at this point.

And CBS why you bringing that bullshit post from some person/rep that copied and pasted that from another board. It's a ridiculous claim. I can sign up as CBS on any board and claim I'm you. Or for that matter sign up at some board as SXrep2 and claim I'm Karl and post the same thing. I know you are more resourceful than that. Grasping at straws at this point.

mands

 

[mands]

Karl if I were you, I wouldn't even reply to anyone in this thread until you get the tests posted. Whatever is happening now is very unproductive.

mands

 

[Senorman]

Just a reminder for anyone now joining this thread:

Karl has been proven to be a liar and a thief by the Vets on this board. Do not waste your hard earned money with this scammer.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

And CBS why you bringing that bullshit post from some person/rep that copied and pasted that from another board. It's a ridiculous claim. I can sign up as CBS on any board and claim I'm you. Or for that matter sign up at some board as SXrep2 and claim I'm Karl and post the same thing. I know you are more resourceful than that. Grasping at straws at this point.

Who said it was "some person/rep that copied and pasted" that from another board?

And why is it a ridiculous claim? Why would a rep (Sxrep1) post a statement from Karl - where Karl begins the statement by introducing himself - without informing us that he (Sxrep1) is NOT Karl, but a rep?

And yes, it's true that you could go to any forum and sign up as CBS or Sxrep2. But why would you want to? There's no incentive for you to do that.

Karl has multiple handles on Meso. There are at least three that I know of: @KarlSX, @Sciroxx-lab, and @Western-Biotech. Is it really a reach to believe there are more? Is it really a reach to believe @sxrep1 isn't one of them?

As far as me being more resourceful goes, what's the point? This big question in this thread was whether or not Karl was making his GH. He had a narrow window early on where he could have posted the kind of analytical data that a GH producer would need during the manufacturing process. Posting that data wouldn't have been conclusive but it would have at least bolstered his claim a great deal.

Unfortunately, he couldn't do it. In fact, Karl has been unable to provide us with any analytical data on GH, despite empty promise after empty promise to do so. Now it's too late. I doubt any thinking person on Meso believes Karl is producing GH. Come on, Mands! Not only was Karl unable to supply a simple AAS order to Best, he was unable to refund a measly $6000. The supposed owner of a multimillion dollar GH manufacturing lab couldn't even scrounge up 6000 bucks!

So the big question has already been answered. Being more resourceful is pointless - the ship has sailed. I'm just having fun now. Although it's not that much fun anymore and I suspect most people just see this thread as a public washroom now - they stop in to take a piss and move on.

CBS

 

[demonxp]

Doc, the questions you ask are valid, but we have been through this a million times and I don't think Karl has the technical knowledge to give you the answers you are looking for. Why don't you just speak with his professor via Skype as he has offered many times and ask him these questions. What have you got to lose? Do it for all the Mesoites out there that want the answers!

Its the person, alot of these people hold a grudge against Karl, whether it's bitch tits, Flys in the Vial, or being late on a shipment. Plus it can also be competition, or they could honestly want to warn the community, you never know what happened unless it happens to you. I've never purchased oils or PCT from Karl, but I trust Muscle96ss. I ordered a couple kits from Karl to test out. And should have results in by Monday.

 

[demonxp]

Anyone who wants to believe I'm doing this to help Karl is a joke, I'm just verify my product that I bought is good. And if it's good, I'll get a couple more. If I ever get a bad batch, I'll find a new provider.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Anyone who wants to believe I'm doing this to help Karl is a joke, I'm just verify my product that I bought is good. And if it's good, I'll get a couple more. If I ever get a bad batch, I'll find a new provider.

A joke, you say? Weren't you the dude that got scammed out of a grand because you trusted some unknown source that gave you a slick sales pitch and promises of all the "legit" generic GH money could buy?

No, I don't think you're helping Karl. You're just a guy with questionable judgement who's searching for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Good luck with that.

 

[Dr JIM]

Are you ignoring @muscle96ss again @Dr JIM? You know he has a valid point.

mands

Ignore MH, yea since page 2 or 3 and that won't change, lol!

Why? Bc he HAS AN UNDENIABLE VESTED INTEREST (Karl advertises on MH's forum) and his biased commentary on this thread alone supports that assertion, and HE EXPOSED PRIVILEGED INFORMATION again as a means to an ends. Lining his pockets with Karls advertisement dollars.

So no I don't and won't give him or his opinion the time of day!

 

[Dr JIM]

Oh I thought you were defining Jim's actions in this thread CBS. Sorry carry on.

On a serious note, I do believe Jim will give his honest opinion of any test and or analysis posted by Karl. He has no reason not to at this point.

And CBS why you bringing that bullshit post from some person/rep that copied and pasted that from another board. It's a ridiculous claim. I can sign up as CBS on any board and claim I'm you. Or for that matter sign up at some board as SXrep2 and claim I'm Karl and post the same thing. I know you are more resourceful than that. Grasping at straws at this point.

mands

AGREED, bc it's a proven fact Karl is his own worst enemy!

 

[demonxp]

A joke, you say? Weren't you the dude that got scammed out of a grand because you trusted some unknown source that gave you a slick sales pitch and promises of all the "legit" generic GH money could buy?

No, I don't think you're helping Karl. You're just a guy with questionable judgement who's searching for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Good luck with that.

Fuck off you punk ass bitch. That dudes growth was legit. I've you ever learned to fucking read, I got fucked over by DHS. Who was watching his money courier. I got the seizure letter in the mail to fucking prove it. Dude went into fucking hiding because he doesn't want to get caught.

 

[demonxp]

I was pissed because him knowing that courier got his last transfer sent and seized told me to send it to the same ass fuck thinking it wasn't going to fucking get seized again. I wanted and demanded Moneygram transfer, and he told me to do it WU, because it's safer. He's a dumb ass for directing that transfer, and I'm the guy with a butt hole wide as the fucking canyon, because I got fucked so bad.

 

[Dr JIM]

Its the person, alot of these people hold a grudge against Karl, whether it's bitch tits, Flys in the Vial, or being late on a shipment. Plus it can also be competition, or they could honestly want to warn the community, you never know what happened unless it happens to you. I've never purchased oils or PCT from Karl, but I trust Muscle96ss. I ordered a couple kits from Karl to test out. And should have results in by Monday.

Really and by a lot I suppose you mean ONE OR TWO? Evidence, exclusive of this thread, NOT!

Nonetheless, I guess it's more fashionable and certainly requires MUCH less objectivity and effort to play Monday night quarterback, rather than having to read all 148 pages of this thread. Instead you prance onto Meso as some well intentioned and unbiased third party consumer who claims all is well and none of the issues many find so objectionable are legit, but rather the consequence of some prolonged personal vendetta, LMAO.

SURE SOUNDS LIKE KARL (or much less than enlightened) BULLSHIT TO ME!

 

[muscle96ss]

Ignore MH, yea since page 2 or 3 and that won't change, lol!

Why? Bc he HAS AN UNDENIABLE VESTED INTEREST (Karl advertises on MH's forum) and his biased commentary on this thread alone supports that assertion, and HE EXPOSED PRIVILEGED INFORMATION again as a means to an ends. Lining his pockets with Karls advertisement dollars.

So no I don't and won't give him or his opinion the time of day!

Karl advertises on my forum?? I am members of quite a few forums and active on a few, but I didn't know I had a forum. The fact that you think I have a vested interest or am making money of Karl is not only a joke but shows how far off base and closed minded you really are. I think the real reason you choose to ignore me is because you know you can't hang with me in a logical debate of the facts and don't have the balls to try. If you truly read what I have written and still come to the conclusion that I am making money off of Karl then you are much stupider than I originally thought.

 

[demonxp]

No asshole, it means I'm not sure what the Fuck happened before, and I'm pretty sure it really fucking happened but not to me. And if this hgh is as good as mucle96ss says it is then why the Fuck won't I get some of it. I have no vendetta over Karl, and he hasn't fucked me over. And finding good growth is like finding a fucking unicorn. I believe alot of the "good growth" is just some peptides that mimic growth. But if they make your body create it's own growth hormone, then whats the harm besides it being overpriced peptides. If Karls growth is legit, I'll keep using it.

Plus I talked with one of the senior members on this forum who come here to constantly bash Karl, about this subject of generic growth and he mentioned a few other seniors and himself found a good connection of real pharma hgh. So that's why I felt theres a little of this drama back and forth and possibly a little agenda.