Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[Western-Biotech]

CSB - again I know u just post nonsense for the sake of posting nonsense, but lets pretend you're just an innocent idiot - the set of test we run, and posted by me from start is defined to confirm and asses the purity and potency of the product, and it's obvious that it confirms it's GH, bring any expert and confirm this, he may talk live to my professor

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

CSB - again I know u just post nonsense for the sake of posting nonsense, but lets pretend you're just an innocent idiot - the set of test we run, and posted by me from start is defined to confirm and asses the purity and potency of the product, and it's obvious that it confirms it's GH, bring any expert and confirm this, he may talk live to my professor

Don't think for one minute your attempt to bury my post has gone unnoticed. Keep it up and I'll start a new thread with your admission to purchasing R&D research grade GH.

You fucked up Karl. You guys always do.

 

[Western-Biotech]

the requirments regrading purity and potency for legit institutions and universtities are higher then pharma, and it was proven by Mands tests as well as othr forms, and more to come, u confuse with what is labeled as R&D peptides which are sold in tones, has an arguable effect, an no consumed by a single legit insitue, just labeled this way to bypass FDA laws

Starts new threads and help to spread the word on the Somastim bro

 

[mands]

@Zaphod it's my understanding if the sequence is incorrect there will be no change in igf-1 levels.

Same goes if it's "animal GH" there will me no change or increase.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

mands

 

[Western-Biotech]

Precisely Mands.

What our QA protocol follow is actually the ultimate confirmation - we check the prolifiration of human cells under exposure to the product, according to the protocol which was established in 2006 - follow my previous post.

Animals GH won't have any clinical effect in human. Human GH has effect on Animals though, identical to the animals GH molecule.

IGF1 levels are a clear indication to the GH effect, but not a precise one, as IGF1 levels are also effected by other factors like sex steroids, cortocosteroids, Insulin Glucagon, Nutrition, stress etc

 

[Zaphod]

@Zaphod it's my understanding if the sequence is incorrect there will be no change in igf-1 levels.

Same goes if it's "animal GH" there will me no change or increase.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

mands

I honestly can't answer that with any certainty. However I do know that somatrem is a 192 AA HGH analog that has been used and researched. It raises IGF levels and it has an added amino acid to the chain.

This is just speculation, as I don't have time right now to research it- Due to it's size and 3d structure the whole molecule doesn't bind to the igf receptor, so in theory if the section that is responsible for igf is correct then it could still cause a rise in IGF.

Again that second part is speculation and anyone with the knownledge for literature that says something different please feel free to correct me.

 

[Dr JIM]

Yea GEC are commonly used for MANY R&D products and for good reason.

You posted both of these "tests" previously, and they are still NOT legible. Ask your "prof" what HE believes they prove or disprove?

Hey K what is "R&D rHGH? You believe your "GH" adheres to FDA purity and quality standards?

Have you "prof" respond so there is no confusion, or is he only available by Skype

 

[Western-Biotech]

Doc - I'll get AA seq' soon like u suggested,

the tests posted so far proves beyond any doubts the GH as a HGH 99.5% purity, and other claim is a joke

 

[Western-Biotech]

And Doc - reply to my PMs - we'll try to give u a peace of mind regarding the QA tests, as u care so much about this community, I really adore this

 

[Dr JIM]

@Zaphod it's my understanding if the sequence is incorrect there will be no change in igf-1 levels.

Same goes if it's "animal GH" there will me no change or increase.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

mands

That is NOT necessarily true bc some bio-activity occurs within the primate family.

The problem? Because the proteins are not purely of homo-sapien (erecti, habalus etc) they are seen as a foreign protein and an immune reactions occurs over a brief interval.

This results in immune complexes binding said "GH" molecule, rendering it useless from a biological perspective.

Indeed considering Ks "GH" was of an R&D grade the injection issues many developed are a CLEAR sign of a protein allergy.

Finally changes in IGF or GH levels is often more a manifestation of the assay being used that it is the quality of "GH".

 

[Western-Biotech]

Test bnow the Somastim - Mands will send u a sample - check if there are any other proteins which may lead to any reaction, actually it's a silly concept as purity of 99.5% is beyond any pharma standards, and any allergic reaction has nothing to do with the GH, I suggest to stop making claims which shames u and other members intelligent

 

[Western-Biotech]

The purity and potency which a university requires to conduct an experiment is higher then pharma standards, so are the standards which exclude the presence of any foreign proteins which may impact any experiment. Don't confuse between the research grade label on some peps sold over the net, and stop making statements which are baseless, someone may by mistake read it, though usually I know ppl here ignore your BS.

 

[Dr JIM]

Oh K what was your explanation for CLASSIC signs of a Arrhus reaction.
The "excipient" factor, BS!

Forget that get your "prof" back here and have him explain that which you don't understand.

So ask your PROF to post the differences between research grade and that which is FDA approved?

Yep u will continue to deflect that answer bc your FOS K. and an embarrassment to anyone whom believes customers SHOULD KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.

How about sterility what kind of viral I eradication techniques are use to ensure the AIDS , Hepatitis, virus. are removed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again the worst type of UGL is one that does not ensure their products are contaminated with everything from particulate matter, organisms, or allergic proteins AND R&D rHGH is NOT required to PROVE their products are SAFE bc they are NOT for use in HUMANS, period!

A while back you referred to "safety issues" as reasons no pics could be taken, damn right bc your ass would be arrested pronto if "they" knew you were selling R&D GH to humans!

Your a dangerous Fuck K but the money makes it worth it all right, damn your worthless ass!

 

[mands]

Karl keep re-bottling gh with that humatrope I like it! Lol

mands

That is NOT necessarily true bc some bio-activity occurs within the primate family.

The problem? Because the proteins are not purely of homo-sapien (erecti, habalus etc) they are seen as a foreign protein and an immune reactions occurs over a brief interval.

This results in immune complexes binding said "GH" molecule, rendering it useless from a biological perspective.

Indeed considering Ks "GH" was of an R&D grade the injection issues many developed are a CLEAR sign of a protein allergy.

Finally changes in IGF or GH levels is often more a manifestation of the assay being used that it is the quality of "GH".

Agree I believe there is one type of primate that is similar and you would not tell the difference from a humans.

As far as the reaction I got from the injection it only happened in certain vials. I did not happen in all of them.

mands

 

[Dr JIM]

To those who believe the risk of using an R&D product, which specifically has the warning "not for use in humans" on every vial, is worth the benefit, ENJOY!

 

[mands]

To those who believe the risk of using an R&D product, which specifically has the warning "not for use in humans" on every vial, is worth the benefit, ENJOY!

So, do you feel the same way about Research Chemicals and Peptides as these are not FDA approved and are manufactured "not for use in humans"?

mands

 

[Western-Biotech]

Dr. Jim - you confuse here terms -

I stated clearly that the Somastim is not regulated fy FDA. However by any purity and potency aspect it's completely parallel, and actually as proven by full university tests is superior.

Peptides and research chemicals don't adhere to the purity and potency of their fellows pharmas, and they carry this labels simply to bypass laws. the Somastim though not regulated by FDA offers identical and even superior purity and potency to pharma. Test now the purity of "research" peps and confirm this, look at Mands test on the Somastim and draw the conclusions

And I still wonder why Dr. Jim doesn't test it , and keep posting BS...

 

[mands]

@Dr JIM you mentioned Serostims can cause the same allergic reaction in some users? Does that mean their sequence is off?

mands

 

[ufcguy32]

Every gh I've looked up has warnings about bruising red bumps soreness at injection site. I think Jim called it Arthurs reaction but I'm not sure if those are the same thing from what I read up on it

 

[Western-Biotech]

Mands and others - report pls soon on items fron new batch regarding any local reaction, it's nil and you'll confirm,

Mands, I'm embarrassed to ask after all the $ and efforts u already invested, but pls make serum tests as well as any other possible test to the new batch