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Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH
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old bro
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when i get my kit ill be trying both aswell an from what i understand mine wil be the newer kits if not the newest.
Western-Biotech
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You guys raise some claims.
So far all tests confirmed the quality we declared
I have and will encourage any customer to make any lab test by any standards, and now, you just keep posting speculations over speculations that have to do with your weary imaginations, while again and again all tests confirmed perfect quality and nothing less, above all Dr Jim's testing Dr Jim still hold the sample I'm sure - test it by any standards, this is hilerious - 98% of this thread is nonsense, while all tests are perfect.
You asked for more tests and you'll get it
I said I'll specify today the tests we'll run on new batch, we've been celebrating a holiday and when checked mail now I find the work scheduale on the new batch incl' vough discussions on the tests, I wanted to post the exact specified tests, and I will ASAP, I wanna say in few hours, but don't catch me on this. This is important as we'll rely on it soon.
I've got more then a dozen of perfect serum tests, and excellent feedback on the quality - show me one imply on any issue with the effect. There were few complaint on allergic reaction, we know what it stems from, the issue is solved, and new batch will be very soon ready to be tested, I know members here will report. I agree that this shouldn't happen, anyone with a complaint got a refund (= replaced kits from new batch). Any of my customers will confirm this stop the BS
We may have a constant route of communication on mail with the lab through mail, so u may asses each and every test, I assume you'll do testings, and I encourage Dr Jim to do so as well, so we may compare them and confirm the fact that we do produce the GH
I think that you'll be amused now, but I tend to take personally some claims here on my charachter. I wanna see one customer of mine who's ever talked to me and may make and complaint on service. Pls do I wanna see one customer, colleague, freind, neighbour, pet or god know who hasn't got proper service by me, I don't claim for your respect, I'm try to earn it by hard work, but some guys here simply lie lie and lie again,
So far all tests confirmed the quality we declared
I have and will encourage any customer to make any lab test by any standards, and now, you just keep posting speculations over speculations that have to do with your weary imaginations, while again and again all tests confirmed perfect quality and nothing less, above all Dr Jim's testing Dr Jim still hold the sample I'm sure - test it by any standards, this is hilerious - 98% of this thread is nonsense, while all tests are perfect.
You asked for more tests and you'll get it
I said I'll specify today the tests we'll run on new batch, we've been celebrating a holiday and when checked mail now I find the work scheduale on the new batch incl' vough discussions on the tests, I wanted to post the exact specified tests, and I will ASAP, I wanna say in few hours, but don't catch me on this. This is important as we'll rely on it soon.
I've got more then a dozen of perfect serum tests, and excellent feedback on the quality - show me one imply on any issue with the effect. There were few complaint on allergic reaction, we know what it stems from, the issue is solved, and new batch will be very soon ready to be tested, I know members here will report. I agree that this shouldn't happen, anyone with a complaint got a refund (= replaced kits from new batch). Any of my customers will confirm this stop the BS
We may have a constant route of communication on mail with the lab through mail, so u may asses each and every test, I assume you'll do testings, and I encourage Dr Jim to do so as well, so we may compare them and confirm the fact that we do produce the GH
I think that you'll be amused now, but I tend to take personally some claims here on my charachter. I wanna see one customer of mine who's ever talked to me and may make and complaint on service. Pls do I wanna see one customer, colleague, freind, neighbour, pet or god know who hasn't got proper service by me, I don't claim for your respect, I'm try to earn it by hard work, but some guys here simply lie lie and lie again,
There have been dozens of red flags in this thread. I know very little about GH production but I've pointed out several of the red flags regarding things I do have knowledge about.
Ben on the other hand has years of experience in the game and brings up major questions regarding Karl's credibility that have nothing to do with the GH production.
So what it should come down to for a perspective customer of this product is are you going to ignore all of the red flags in this thread as well as Ben's extensive posts about Karl's history and believe that Karl spent millions of dollars on this lab
as he claims in order to sell near pharma quality grade GH on the
black market. You make the call.
Mands I don't know you but nobody on here things you are schilling
for Karl including Dr. Jim. Jim is pissed about the disclosure of
his info. That issue is between the two of you because I don't
know what was said but Jim is using the hit them were it hurts
the most tactic by accusing you of profiting from this whole thing.
I would agree w everything you have said but I've know and respected MANDS ever since I joined Meso roughly 3 years ago. Fact is he was the first to "be friend" me as a Meso mate.
We also discussed how its next to impossible to obtain generic GH thru UGLS openly on Meso.
The fact is MANDS has ALWAYS maintained his distance from even remotely appearing he was supporting an UGL and I and many others developed great respect bc of it.
So when I observe MANDS doing several things out of character with some well known shyster like K, what am I to think?
Fact is I even mentioned my concerns to MANDS by email and informed him I believed he will get FUCKED one way or another bc of what I believed was blind support for K.
There are somethings in life that don't come cheap, and until proven otherwise rHGH is definitely one of them! Now that's an historical fact.
To believe K is going to change all that for the community is absolutely NUTs. That I also KNOW to be a FACT bc HGH costs at least $2.00/IU to manufacture at even an R&D level!
Regs
jim
old bro
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If what you say is true (not saying i believe or disbelieve what you say) but if so what really can he accomplish with a forum such as this it wld seem vary difficult to screw tomany over before said person would get found out.
Completely agree with this.
Regarding Mands, you have been much more involved in this thread than me for obvious reasons, so I very well could have missed something but the posts I read basically said that his belief was that the GH he received from Karl was good. I didn't read those as backing Karl beyond that.
I'm also very confident that you have absolutely no profit motive in this whole thing and I have no beef with you whatsoever.
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Western-Biotech
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Dr Jim - you're Fn right about the costs - at R&D level GH costs much more then 2usd per iu, and it's calculated in our expenses and the first batch cost us much more then we charged.
When production line is established the costs lowered. We built and count on this venture as a long time investment, like it should. When the quality will be established the investment will worth it. Anyhow you're not the main target market as u all know, but I personally work wiht this market for years so I'm here with u on a daily basis.
I know that u took by surprise the quality of the Somastim when u tested it, stay with me, we'll arrange new tests now, if u like with your cooperation, and we may conclude an opinion.
I'm sure most of the readers have some common sense, and they do realize that I proved so far the quality, I've never avoided any issue, complaint or request, and I need your cooperation on the compared testing on the new batch
When production line is established the costs lowered. We built and count on this venture as a long time investment, like it should. When the quality will be established the investment will worth it. Anyhow you're not the main target market as u all know, but I personally work wiht this market for years so I'm here with u on a daily basis.
I know that u took by surprise the quality of the Somastim when u tested it, stay with me, we'll arrange new tests now, if u like with your cooperation, and we may conclude an opinion.
I'm sure most of the readers have some common sense, and they do realize that I proved so far the quality, I've never avoided any issue, complaint or request, and I need your cooperation on the compared testing on the new batch
With deference CBS, UFC is not the "Meso member" I was referring to. Why? BC only ONE of his posts was unrelated to his direct or indirect support of K on this thread!
So I would not consider his results anything but biased!
To date BB is the only Meso member who has posted "results" and he referred to K's GH as garbage!!!
Western-Biotech
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I got some PMs before asking to post tests Dr Jim asked and so on. Pls realize that I work with a team of experts, I can't just draw a test from my sleeve, and I must coordinate it with them, and confirm it's done properly. You surely realize it. So we are doing wider set of tests to the new batch, the reason for it to be honest is not you, but the fact that we aim for license, and I posted it, but I know these tests will serve your rightful interest, so instead of posting speculations follow my posts on the tests to come, and raise any question or suggestion, above all Dr Jim. We'll work together and get to the truth
Western-Biotech
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Any one may support me or reject me, but the honest thing is to do it based on facts
Dr Jim - I know u think u r god like, but get over your ego - reply to my PMs, and lets arrange a cross testing with your cooperation, this way you may actually contribute from your great abilities
Dr Jim - I know u think u r god like, but get over your ego - reply to my PMs, and lets arrange a cross testing with your cooperation, this way you may actually contribute from your great abilities
you are priceless buddy. this is why you have no credibility whatsoever, i dont support anyone. i support getting a good and fair product at a price i can afford. after 16 years of education and you still cant get that through your thick skull. i dont attack someone unless i have a reason to. i have no reason to attack karl, the guy hasnt done anything to me personally. so far i have had a good experience, is this me being a shill , bc i dont go on a witch hunt and slam him like you do. if i post up bloods they will be real, again you are the reason this thread has taken a turn for the worse. you have serious bias and even with the facts you still cant be honest. hows that anavar test coming by the way ? dont worry mine doesnt need testing its from the pharmacy, ill take cvs word on it 
Western-Biotech
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D Jim - you know what is the cost of this technology, so u know that my claims on millions a valid. If I do bring this to the table this this is some important news to this community, I think you should be the one to asses it and give your part to this community.
Talk to me and we may compare tests. not sure why u defined me as the enemy.
So is for anyone with any interest in the truth
Talk to me and we may compare tests. not sure why u defined me as the enemy.
So is for anyone with any interest in the truth
Western-Biotech
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I wanna state clearly - I've never even gave an extra discount to any member here, any test was done randomly, and no one may be happier then me that actually Dr Jim was the one to asses the quality I provided. Unlike many other sources here or on other places I don't have reps, I've never sent samples, and I encourage any testing by any customer. My best reps as proven on other places, same as here are simply my customers. I wanna see one customer of mine to prove me wrong.
I've really tried to not make this speech, and just let the product to speak for itself, as well as your opinion, but some shit here is above imagination
I've really tried to not make this speech, and just let the product to speak for itself, as well as your opinion, but some shit here is above imagination
Jimmyhoffa59
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Post. Up good or bad results, it gives folks truly interested in weighing their own decisions some help and info. Ignore the negativity side of it, at the end of the day it's only YOU and YOUR decisions that matter, I can sleep well at night knowing everything falls on my own decisions, even my mistakes
Marcus
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We understand that you do work with a team, but you have had a very generous amount of time afforded to you by us to provide these tests. Forget all other drama in this thread... You have not provided tests that have been repeatedly asked of you and you continue to say that you will. Every day, week, and month that goes by makes it more improbable to ever make your point. In my opinion, it would be next to impossible for you to prove that you have a lab that manufactures GH.
That being said, now the focus is whether you can provide a quality product and will this quality last or, like most other product, degrade and be diluted with time.
Oh I certainly believe your interest lies in efforts to improve Meso for all members. Your also quite knowledgeable more objective and certainly not naive or gullible as many others with a "need for GH".
Simply put, some believe what they need to believe, a sort of means to and ends, and many will get burned as a result, IMO!
regs
jim
Western-Biotech
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Markus - I'm working wiht u on the test, these tests will be included in the QA on any batch, any customer will be able to test his batch and compare to our testings on a regular basis
psychowhitekenny
Subscriber
It's crazy that on 4 ius of generic China blue tops my hands were so numb ready to fall off. On this stuff at 4 ius all I get is swollen knots in my stomach, no other hgh related symptoms. Something is definitely not right with this stuff.
Oh I agree, but rest assured the results UFC will post will be good rather than bad. As a result I believe it important people are made aware of his potential bias. That is UFC has wholeheartedly supported K from the onset of this thread, and all of his posts have been made on this thread exclusively!
So yea post up!
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