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Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH
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I know doc. But you make yourself as useful as a doormat. Not every internet troll is a dumb one. Some are very intelligent like yourself. Take the dr off of your title then so you can be respected as just another bb.
NUTS!
ItalianMuscle27
Member
16 years of post education, and you cant seem to find respect, get respect, or even get happiness on a bodybuilding forum.. I heard gh15 is looking for another Mod. I can put in a good word for you if you wish? I would do that, lmk bro.. thanks!
Now you have to admit that shit was funny! ^^^^
mands
mands
Indeed, can I buy one to ensure it slaps IM upon his entrance and exit from Meso!
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You've been on the forums for 16 years and you don't have respect yet. You're tolerated because everyone knows you're retarded but believe me, the PMs I receive from your supposed friends are all laughing at you behind your back. They think you're a joke. Oh IM, if you only knew who was laughing at you...
Face the facts, Pantywaist. You are a laughingstock on every forum unfortunate enough to have you as a member. How tall are you IM? Are you even 5 ft? You have the worst case of little-man syndrome I've ever seen. You're all mouth and no bite. I bet even Danny DeVito has you beat. I bet you couldn't even get a job as Mickey Mouse at Disneyland because you don't meet the 5 ft height requirement. Try the circus, I hear they need freaks for the sideshow. You'll fit right in. I can see the headlines now: "See the world's first Italian midget bodybuilder, Pantywaist, as he flexes his 12 inch biceps!"
In addition to being a little-man with a big mouth, you're a gutless coward. You don't even have the balls to respond to Ben. You talk smack about him behind his back but hide like a scared little girl when he comes back. That's why you're a pantywaist. A fucking coward. A fucking chickenshit wop wearing Gucci for Kids because you can't fit into Men's clothes. You're supposed to be a grown up but you still wear Air Jordans. You actually wait for the latest version to come out like a 14-year-old wannabe gangbanger. I bet you wear one of those stupid Daffy Duck looking hats sideways on your pointy head. You're pants are probably falling down so everyone can see the shit stains on your satin panties. You know, the panties you got from Victoria's Secret. Through the mail, of course. You didn't want anyone to know, remember? Oops! I guess I just let the cat out of the bag. Sorry, IM.
I'm right, aren't I? I hitting close to the mark. LMAO
I heard one of your boards is looking for a mod too. Don't bother applying though - NO ONE'S ever made you a mod ANYWHERE - no one except for Naps' shill site, that is! But that doesn't really count, does it? Hell, even Tiller managed to talk himself into a mod position. That should tell you where you stand in the community. You're less than Tiller. LMFAO
Poor IM the Pantywaist. He tries so hard but he's still a fucking joke.
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I've seen gh testing over at PM do many things. Depending on timing and which side is referring to these tests they are used as a way to manipulate the guys spending money to feel good and spend more. They are used to silence those that have common sense and experience with the behavior of scams and those running them.
I was going to go into all the ways I've seen people lose money and tests being used by the crooks to help their cause as well.
All I know is that the karl/bio GH is not going to end well for the regular guy wanting a fair shake. The GH is not on par with pharm grade and won't be. Karls side will use smoke and mirror sales tactics along with all the other "tricks" at their disposal at PM that have proven effective in having the masses open their wallets and hope and believe that this time will be the time that history is made and a UGL with a well armed PR team along with guys gifted in the fine art of telling people what they want to hear and when to hear.
I don't believe the Doc stands to make anything in regards to any gh anywhere? On the other hand, anyone that does will do their best to discredit anyone that gets in the way of the machine.
Karl is a salesman past his prime wanting to cash in on an old id to make money off the backs of the community he believes owes him a debt for his service. He would have us believe the stories of a lab and dr's and hg gh that he now is in control of to be plausible and unless there is a way we can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt then he deserves the assumption that his tale is true.
Not with gh. Not when he's aligned himself with the king of profit from gh scams. The writing on the wall for pm and karl as well makes this whole thing dirty and a disaster waiting to happen. All bad.
I was going to go into all the ways I've seen people lose money and tests being used by the crooks to help their cause as well.
All I know is that the karl/bio GH is not going to end well for the regular guy wanting a fair shake. The GH is not on par with pharm grade and won't be. Karls side will use smoke and mirror sales tactics along with all the other "tricks" at their disposal at PM that have proven effective in having the masses open their wallets and hope and believe that this time will be the time that history is made and a UGL with a well armed PR team along with guys gifted in the fine art of telling people what they want to hear and when to hear.
I don't believe the Doc stands to make anything in regards to any gh anywhere? On the other hand, anyone that does will do their best to discredit anyone that gets in the way of the machine.
Karl is a salesman past his prime wanting to cash in on an old id to make money off the backs of the community he believes owes him a debt for his service. He would have us believe the stories of a lab and dr's and hg gh that he now is in control of to be plausible and unless there is a way we can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt then he deserves the assumption that his tale is true.
Not with gh. Not when he's aligned himself with the king of profit from gh scams. The writing on the wall for pm and karl as well makes this whole thing dirty and a disaster waiting to happen. All bad.
Jimmyhoffa59
New Member
Holy fuck there is a whole bunch of e-toughness in here Jesus Fuck! On a relevant note, has his new batch been shipped? What's the news on the pip from first batch? Is it resolved? How is the actual turn around time? And for those who actually have the sero, how do you like it so far? Thanks boys...
muscle96ss
Subscriber
Injection issue is resolved for small injections(2iu or smaller). Still issues with larger volumes but to a much lesser degree than the first batch.
Jimmyhoffa59
New Member
appreciate that man. Actual info instead of name calling in the school yard is refreshing. So your batch came in fine? Obviously. Where have u been pinning?
muscle96ss
Subscriber
How do you know this? We were told from mands tests that it was. I originally laughed at his claims of pharm grade as everyone claims their GH is the best and pharm grade, etc.. and the chinese stuff isn't even close. In fact before we even saw the results of mand's test I stated that I don't even care if it is pharm grade and that even if it is only 95% that would still be better than most if not all generics out there. Anyway, the GH was tested and I think it was lightspan(maybe wrong) that thought that Karl was just rebottling pharm grade GH like Humatrope or something. So please elaborate on how you can say this from a factual standpoint. I can understand how you can say it based on a typical response of what is out there and what has happened with all the GH scams on the boards as your reaction is a normal reaction and the same one I originally had when Karl stated many months ago he was doing this; but how can you say that from a factual standpoint?
And there is no evidence to the contrary bc that's a fact!
Is generic Gh improving perhaps, but DON'T expect the turnaround often witnessed with OTHER generic pharm grade products until GENERIC Gh is approved for distribution by the FDA and WHO.
Until that happens a privileged few will "get theirs" yet most others will be scammed.
Could I be wrong sure, but the history of generic GH says otherwise!
Finally I hope NO ONE HERE really believes K "is applying for a GH production license" bc if you do it's best to review ALL of the comments he has made on this thread alone. Crap he doesn't even know which agency must be involved FIRST in the application process. Utterly absurd!
JIM
muscle96ss
Subscriber
My wife and I both are pinning in abdomen subq. I did my first injection 4iu and had no reaction the next day, so I did 4iu again that night. The next day I had a reaction for both of the injections(delayed from the first). So now once it cleared up I tried 2iu of Karls GH and 2iu of a generic that I have serum tested multiple times in the high 20's(so I could still do 4iu at once) and no problems. My wife has been using it for a little over 10 days at 1iu in the morning and 2iu at night but 3ius if she misses the morning shot. On the 2 occasions that she has done 3iu she has had a reaction but on all the other injections she has been fine. Thats why I say there is a 2iu limit. Another member is doing the injections IM and has had no problems. Still Karl has plans to fix it so that there are no issues with no matter how much you inject.
BOTH "BATCHES" seem to have the same problem K attributes to an excipient, heat and oxygen. What a fascinating experiment that must have been, lol!
Look this crap doesn't happen with Pharm GH period and I'm relatively convinced K is altering the ingredients mailed to certain customers. FYI why haven't we seen anyone FROM MESO post their bloods on Meso!
muscle96ss
Subscriber
Care to place a wager on this?? Mands had the exact same issue with the injections as I did originally, his vials looked exactly the same as mine, and we scored almost identical on serum tests(and there has not been 1 bad serum test yet, they have all been close to the same). And Dr. Jim tested mands's GH and gave it the thumbs up originally before this whole fiasco started(unless he was lying then). Just more unsubstantiated BS and fear mongering. See this is why it looks like I am supporting Karl when I am simply trying to get the truth out and will not allow someones biased opinion based on nothing factual to stand. How the fuck can you accuse a guy of altering the ingredients to certain people when you don't have a shred of evidence. Thats just plain bullshit in my book.
All I can report is slight burn at 2iu X a day intramuscular with no welts or lumps. I haven't done bloods yet. I'll do them for my own piece of mind and I'd be willing to post them but I don't feel like getting slammed if they come back good. If they are bad I'll post of good I'll post. Your call
No one will slam you for posting you serum GH results.
You said you're shooting IM and get no lumps. That's normal for IM injections. Try subq and report back. Don't be surprised if it causes lumps.
There have been dozens of red flags in this thread. I know very little about GH production but I've pointed out several of the red flags regarding things I do have knowledge about.
Ben on the other hand has years of experience in the game and brings up major questions regarding Karl's credibility that have nothing to do with the GH production.
So what it should come down to for a perspective customer of this product is are you going to ignore all of the red flags in this thread as well as Ben's extensive posts about Karl's history and believe that Karl spent millions of dollars on this lab
as he claims in order to sell near pharma quality grade GH on the
black market. You make the call.
Mands I don't know you but nobody on here things you are schilling
for Karl including Dr. Jim. Jim is pissed about the disclosure of
his info. That issue is between the two of you because I don't
know what was said but Jim is using the hit them were it hurts
the most tactic by accusing you of profiting from this whole thing.
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