What are the most popular manufacturers that should be tested as part of lab testing program?

[Millard]

What are the most popular manufacturers and underground labs that should be tested as part of a lab testing program? If the goal is to produce lab reports that will have impact and relevance on the greatest number of AAS users. Which labs should be included and why?

Unfortunately, there are no official sales reports released every month to guide us. But judging by popularity in forum discussions, advertising on source forums and rankings and reviews on popular rating sites, what do you say?

If whenever, breakdown into categories by region e.g.

American domestic,
Canadian domestic,
Australia domestic,
UK domestic,
Internationally sources based in Europe
Internationally sources based in Asia
etc

Thanks for your input!

 

[jabrel3]

Biotech Pharmaclinico is one that Isn't on your list of samples being tested and to my knowledge is widely used. PM me Millard if you would like and I can help. [emoji106]

 

[mercury]

I would say those which has been around for a long time, it does make sense to test those who come and are gone next day.

Maybe balkan pharmaceuticals, BD, they have been around for a long time with a lot of controversy.

 

[jabrel3]

I would say those which has been around for a long time, it does make sense to test those who come and are gone next day.

Maybe balkan pharmaceuticals, BD, they have been around for a long time with a lot of controversy.

Balkan is already being tested. Another one that I would be curious about that seems to have a lot of conversation about them lately is Paxton.

 

[Benny]

Will this extend to raw suppliers? That would be super helpful. I would be willing to help with in my capabilities.

 

[MikeSz]

Vermodje?

It has been a lot of controversy around that company...

 

[Oregongearhead]

NAPS / Geneza.....show us all who they really are !

 

[roastdawg]

I'd like to see alpha pharma, zhengzhou, and pharmacom myself.

 

[bullets69]

Wherever a lot of people get their pct drugs would be a good thing to test too

 

[pumpingiron22]

Internationally sources based in Asia- Gen-Shi

 

[Sampei]

Pharmacom - Vermodje - Balkan - novocrine

Let's test brands available to mostly everyone and that are well established. I mean what's the point of testing something that just few ppl use? Plus well known online brand are available in every country almost domestically. Better to focus on them.

 

[Millard]

Will this extend to raw suppliers? That would be super helpful. I would be willing to help with in my capabilities.

No. The reasons why the program decided against can be found in some following posts:

Certainly, quantitative/qualitative on raw steroid powder can be accomplished. I think a credible harm reduction initiative should focus on the end-products most likely to be used by consumers. I don't think resources should be wasted helping UGLs obtain quality powder and/or using the initiative to help manufacture AAS.

But testing raws is asking an entirely different question that I'm not sure would be advisable. (By this, I mean it is not something MESO should get involved with.)

Testing raws: What is the quality of the sample that I'm going to use to manufacture AAS products for personal use and/or commercial resale?

Testing end-products (injectables and tablets): What is the quality of the sample that I am going to inject or consume?

The latter question is clearly focused on harm reduction.

The former question is clearly focused on the manufacture of AAS.

Testing raws is crucial - crucial for UGLs to perform.

MESO is an advocate for protecting the consumer. Testing powders in this scenario would also help consumers but only because it helps UGLs peform quality control. A consumer/harm reduction advocate does not and should not play any role in helping a UGL run its business properly.

Blame always rests on the UGL that brands the product. IF their powder supplier screwed them and the UGL failed to perform quality control testing, the UGL is 100% at fault. They are always responsible for the products they sell to the consumer.

 

[Benny]

No. The reasons why the program decided against can be found in some following posts:

Thanks, I see and agree with the points made.

 

[WMSuperSport]

+1 for Geneza. I rarely use it, but I know alot of people who do. Its very easy to get and affordable for most people.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Maybe PureGear Labs from Marssel, another source that's been around forever.

British Dispensary orals

I'm especially interested in seeing how some of the popular pharm grade products test from different suppliers such as Naps and Marssel, etc.

Bayer Testoviron
Bayer Primobolan
Jelfa Omnadren
Norma Hellas Deca
Norma Hellas Test E
Organon Sustenon
Aburaihan Test E
ICN Galenika Test E
Geofman Test E
Iran Hormone oxymetholone

 

[Millard]

FYI, Alpha Pharma, Balkan Pharma, Eurochem and Pharmacom are the four manufacturers and underground labs that are being targeted in the first batch of testing. The results will be available in June 2015. Here is a repost of the 17 specific products:

Alpha Pharma Healthcare

• Testobolin 1ml ampoule 250mg/ml testosterone enanthate
• Nandrobolin 1 ml ampoule 250mg/ml nandrolone decanoate
• Boldebolin 1 ml ampoule 250mg/ml boldenone undecylenate

Balkan Pharmaceuticals

• Nandrolone D 1 ml ampoule 200mg/ml nandrolone decanoate
• Testosterona E 1 ml ampoule 250mg/ml testosterone enanthate

Eurochem Laboratories

• EC Boldoject 5ml 200mg/ml boldenone undecylenate
  
• EC Decaject 5ml 200mg/ml nandrolone decanoate
  
• EC Enanject 5ml 250mg/ml testosterone enanthate
• EC Trenaject 5ml 75mg/ml trenbolone acetate

Geneza Pharmaceuticals

• GP Bold 200 10ml vial 200mg/ml boldenone undecylenate
• GP Deca 250 10ml vial 250mg/ml nandrolone decanoate
• GP Test Enanth 250 10ml vial 250mg/ml testosterone enanthate
• GP Tren Acetate 100 10ml vial 100mg/ml trenbolone acetate

Pharmacom Labs

• Pharma BOLD 300 10ml vial 300mg/ml boldenone undecylenate
• Pharma NAN-D 300 10ml vial 300mg/ml nandrolone decanoate
• Pharma TEST E 300 10ml vial 300mg/ml testosterone enanthate
• Pharma TREN-A 100 10ml vial 100mg/ml trenbolone acetate

 

[flenser]

The results will be available in June 2015.

Awesome. Anything under a 4 month lead time is record setting! : )

 

[Millard]

Awesome. Anything under a 4 month lead time is record setting! : )

The collection period was between April 10, 2015 and May 10, 2015. The lab received the samples were received by the lab between May 5, 2015 and May 19, 2015. The tests were completed on May 28, 2015. We'll start posting the results in a couple of days on the new website.

 

[BigJP]

I think bd supplements would be a good test. They seem to garner lots of attention and positive reviews with zero proof

 

[spj]

I'd like to see uk labs biomeds and rohm. Also US lab cerastes. Those are all blowing up right now without any hard facts behind them. I think it's awesome you are doing this, it will save alot of ppl time and money. Looking forward to all the results.