What is the worst thing you did as a beginner to AAS ?

[Semiswole33]

Damn, how can you be so sure this near heart attack was from taking anavar ? How much were ya taking per day and did you take any other compounds? Did you have any heart issues prior to taking the anavar or have a history of heart issues in your family ?


Also since that incident have you done more cycles and if so did this heart thing ever happen again?

Hard to imagine a newbie running into major heart problems on his first couple of cycles running a bit of anavar … I woulda assumed one needed more prolonged exposure to AAS before that shit starts happening….

It was test+Var, I wish I could give you the honest dose but I’m almost for sure it was underdosed, I was “taking” 100mg.But to be quite honest there’s no 100% guarantee it was the anavar but it’s the only time I’ve ever had any heart problems so it’s why I think it was. I ran into this issue as a newbie because my thought process was more drugs=more gains. I had a shit diet doing dirty bulks (which definitely didn’t help the heart), so I upped my drug intake to try and reverse that. So all in all probably was a bit of the shit diet and a bit of the gear, no heart problems sense and have ran other cycles but nothing crazy. Trying to get an ecg done as well.

 

[psauce]

I managed to avoid most common mistakes (or I'm still so dumb that I haven't realized it and am still making them).

One thing I could have done better was minding how dead volume can vary with different needles, syringes, and combos of the two. This is especially a problem for someone taking a low dose and injecting very often -- two things that might be seen as risk avoidant or good practices for avoiding side effects and being cautious with dosing.

The difference is usually not more than 0.1 mL, but if you were accidentally injecting 0.3 instead of 0.2 mL every day, you're overshooting by quite a lot.

I kept track of it, but I switched up syringes and needles pretty often, so I'm sure I wasn't on point with some of the smaller volume injections, like reconstituted peptides.

 

[Avarice911]

I managed to avoid most common mistakes (or I'm still so dumb that I haven't realized it and am still making them).

One thing I could have done better was minding how dead volume can vary with different needles, syringes, and combos of the two. This is especially a problem for someone taking a low dose and injecting very often -- two things that might be seen as risk avoidant or good practices for avoiding side effects and being cautious with dosing.

The difference is usually not more than 0.1 mL, but if you were accidentally injecting 0.3 instead of 0.2 mL every day, you're overshooting by quite a lot.

I kept track of it, but I switched up syringes and needles pretty often, so I'm sure I wasn't on point with some of the smaller volume injections, like reconstituted peptides.

I use slin pins which avoids that issue. 27g 5/8" needle does the trick fine. The draw is relatively slow but you can still pump it in fairly quickly.

 

[psauce]

I use slin pins which avoids that issue. 27g 5/8" needle does the trick fine. The draw is relatively slow but you can still pump it in fairly quickly.

I inject with 30s almost always, but loading with a 27 takes too long. I start to reflect on life choices and wonder if I'm actually happy... nothing good comes from that.

 

[Avarice911]

I inject with 30s almost always, but loading with a 27 takes too long. I start to reflect on life choices and wonder if I'm actually happy... nothing good comes from that.

I like to think the long draw limits the temptation of drawing up more and upping the dose because I just don’t wanna sit around any longer lol

 

[Gearhead454]

I like to think the long draw limits the temptation of drawing up more and upping the dose because I just don’t wanna sit around any longer lol

I used to inject with 25g realized 27 is probably better and invested once I finished the last of my harpoons. Now I draw with 25 and inject with 27 using 3CC syringes off Amazon. I was thinking about slin syringes but the 3CC is easy to measure and doesn’t cause too much confusion and math. I’m injecting at like midnight and 6AM because of work so my brain is already foggy I just wanna get pinned and get it over with lol

 

[KeenObserver]

Not getting gyno surgery 10+ years ago. Finally doing it this year. Having the entire glands removed

Is it true that as long as you have nipples there's a chance of gyno recurrence? I'm getting conflicting info online as always. Apparently there's no such thing as removing the ENTIRE gland because otherwise your nipples would just rot off.

 

[Avarice911]

Is it true that as long as you have nipples there's a chance of gyno recurrence? I'm getting conflicting info online as always. Apparently there's no such thing as removing the ENTIRE gland because otherwise your nipples would just rot off.

From what I’ve been told, it can’t reoccur if the entire gland is removed. Guess I’ll find out for sure once it is because I’m the most gyno prone person in existence. EVERYTHING I’ve touched aggravated it to some extent

 

[4Drago]

Injecting into the thighs or glutes

 

[Ryu82]

2CC quad shots the entire first cycle and stacking with CellTech....

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

Typical more gear more gains for me, when I started I was given 10ml Test P and 10ml Tri deca
Told to inject Test Monday and Thursday Deca Mondays
Barley enough of anything to be doing a lot but I upped my calories gained some size then thought pro Chem one rip at 1ml a day would do the trick, No AI and no clue what I was doing. I was a waterlogged mess BP was taken if I remember somewhere near the 220/110 range resting heart rate at 120bpm big red chipmunk face tomato walking heart attack haha.

 

[lukiss96]

Another one was prop and stano inject my second cycle. So you can imagine how many injections there was. But holy shit strength gains were insane at the time!

 

[pornlando]

It was test+Var, I wish I could give you the honest dose but I’m almost for sure it was underdosed, I was “taking” 100mg.But to be quite honest there’s no 100% guarantee it was the anavar but it’s the only time I’ve ever had any heart problems so it’s why I think it was. I ran into this issue as a newbie because my thought process was more drugs=more gains. I had a shit diet doing dirty bulks (which definitely didn’t help the heart), so I upped my drug intake to try and reverse that. So all in all probably was a bit of the shit diet and a bit of the gear, no heart problems sense and have ran other cycles but nothing crazy. Trying to get an ecg done as well.

For sure get that ECG done….
I’m glad your still with us man ….ultimately we are all rolling the dice no matter what when we are using black market gear from the internet , we are nearly ALL guilty of that ….and using hormones above and beyond what our body produces….you can have safer practices but ultimately none of this outside of doctor supervised TRT is safe …and hell even with doctors supervision shit can go wrong.

I appreciate your honesty about this all man your helping people by being straight up about your experiences.

 

[Semiswole33]

For sure get that ECG done….
I’m glad your still with us man ….ultimately we are all rolling the dice no matter what when we are using black market gear from the internet , we are nearly ALL guilty of that ….and using hormones above and beyond what our body produces….you can have safer practices but ultimately none of this outside of doctor supervised TRT is safe …and hell even with doctors supervision shit can go wrong.

I appreciate your honesty about this all man your helping people by being straight up about your experiences.

That’s why I’m on forums like this, to share experiences and help people. And to add to what u said, even trt at just true replacement therapy can have some health risks. Our body’s regulate our hormones for a reason, we realistically shouldn’t be messing with them.

 

[pornlando]

2CC quad shots the entire first cycle and stacking with CellTech....

What’s cell tech ?

Quad shots don’t bug me really , sometimes the odd Charlie horse , I find if you work the muscle injected right after the shot it’s cuts down on pip a lot…I’ll do a couple of sets of leg extensions even if it ain’t leg day and it helps

 

[pornlando]

Injecting into the thighs or glutes

Where else does a newbie inject ? I suppose your a sub q kinda guy - that’s feasible if your doing TRT for sure , I suppose light cycles too but aren’t you sorta limited by sub q volume ? 1cc max or?

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

What’s cell tech ?

Quad shots don’t bug me really , sometimes the odd Charlie horse , I find if you work the muscle injected right after the shot it’s cuts down on pip a lot…I’ll do a couple of sets of leg extensions even if it ain’t leg day and it helps

Hey mate any advice for the actual quad shot itself. I aim about halfway down the outside of my leg and get lightning bolts evertime even with slin pins

 

[pornlando]

Hey mate any advice for the actual quad shot itself. I aim about halfway down the outside of my leg and get lightning bolts evertime even with slin pins

Hmmm , I go sorta closer to the hip ….so say from the halfway point between the knee and the hip , dead center on to ur thigh , find that spot and then move an inch further up the leg towards your butt, right on the side , I personally use 22guage 1 inch needle and I bury the needle right to the hilt ….yeah I’ve had the odd Charlie horse but nothing too bad ….

Most people would probably use a smaller needle then 22guage but I can’t stand waiting there forever pushing the oil, I used to regularly do 3cc shots in the leg ….many many shots over the years right now I’m on test prop so it’s EOD ….

Shoot before the gym and work the muscle that you injected , for instance even if it’s not leg day do a few sets of light squats or leg extension, whatever to work the muscle and this helps reduce pip…

Also if you using high concentrate (I’m using test prop 200 right now) super painful but I cut the shot down with 1 cc sterile oil …

If your new to this shit as time goes on your needle technique will improve, always swab your vials off before your draw and put some effort in to properly clean your injection site ….massage the injection site when done , get in there and rub it aggressively for 20 seconds or so , u can do it whilst cleaning up the blood….

 

[AlphaEdge]

Hmmm , I go sorta closer to the hip ….so say from the halfway point between the knee and the hip , dead center on to ur thigh , find that spot and then move an inch further up the leg towards your butt, right on the side , I personally use 22guage 1 inch needle and I bury the needle right to the hilt ….yeah I’ve had the odd Charlie horse but nothing too bad ….

Most people would probably use a smaller needle then 22guage but I can’t stand waiting there forever pushing the oil, I used to regularly do 3cc shots in the leg ….many many shots over the years right now I’m on test prop so it’s EOD ….

Shoot before the gym and work the muscle that you injected , for instance even if it’s not leg day do a few sets of light squats or leg extension, whatever to work the muscle and this helps reduce pip…

Also if you using high concentrate (I’m using test prop 200 right now) super painful but I cut the shot down with 1 cc sterile oil …

If your new to this shit as time goes on your needle technique will improve, always swab your vials off before your draw and put some effort in to properly clean your injection site ….massage the injection site when done , get in there and rub it aggressively for 20 seconds or so , u can do it whilst cleaning up the blood….

22 gauge. My man.

 

[buzzingonaas]

It was test+Var, I wish I could give you the honest dose but I’m almost for sure it was underdosed, I was “taking” 100mg.But to be quite honest there’s no 100% guarantee it was the anavar but it’s the only time I’ve ever had any heart problems so it’s why I think it was. I ran into this issue as a newbie because my thought process was more drugs=more gains. I had a shit diet doing dirty bulks (which definitely didn’t help the heart), so I upped my drug intake to try and reverse that. So all in all probably was a bit of the shit diet and a bit of the gear, no heart problems sense and have ran other cycles but nothing crazy. Trying to get an ecg done as well.

sounds crazy man. I recently had a heart scare. Two hospitalizations, inverted T waves on my EKGs coupled with chest pressure. Great cardiologist I’m working with now who has ruled out the pressure being heart related, EKG may just be normal like that for me or may have a slow developing genetic heart condition. Sometimes the anxiety or palpitations we get from gear can be enough to get someone into the hospital and realize they have a condition separate from the gear. Hope it goes well for you and you’re all healthy. I’m waiting for a diagnosis still