What is your opinion of abortion?

Southernjuice · Mar 2, 2004

esco said:
sj, i do understand where you're coming from ... and that's what makes this a good conversation for people, like you said when they can take something away from all this. "choice" yah not the best of words ... been a tough topic, but it has been very enlightening too ...

Tough topic indeed and while i do respect opinions we all don't have to agree...that will never happen but you do have to stand up for what you believe in....think I worry more about the people who just don't care one way or the other because I know they can't be touch by anyone.As long as there are conversations of this nature a few people at a time have a change of heart.

crewboss · Mar 2, 2004

patsfan said:
Whats up Crew? Hope your feeling better.

This what I was saying earlier...its all a matter of time before this is acedemic and there will be some sort of population control. Humans are destoying the planet and the US being the police state it is will be the second on board behind China to impliment population control.

Sooner or later this is fact, like it or not.

Soil and greens anyone?

Pats

what's up PF. yeah i've been in and out of the doctor's the past couple weeks. nothing new yet. i agree w/ your views on abortion bro. "us humans are special". we're special enough to kill the whole damn planet if we allow ourselves to continue to breed without restrictions.

esco · Mar 2, 2004

garyzilla said:
When the world even becomes close be being overpopulated then let me know. Because as of 2004 it is not even close! You can take the world's population and have the people stand side by side and it will only take up the area of Jacksonville Florida.

i dont think that's a FACT, but i could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time. but if you have proof let me know.

Bob Smith · Mar 2, 2004

garyzilla said:
When the world even becomes close be being overpopulated then let me know. Because as of 2004 it is not even close! You can take the world's population and have the people stand side by side and it will only take up the area of Jacksonville Florida.

My thoughts exactly, Gary.

Grizz, I dont think Desi was trying to get an emotional response. Im sure it was just a wrong choice of wording, not a conscious decision regarding "Oh, well using this word will make it sound REALLY bad." Give the kid some slack.

eleven11 · Mar 2, 2004

Grizzly said:
Tell me, Desi, about your time in the womb.

I remember griz. very well. I was sittin there sucking my thumb and thinking as soon as I get out of here I wanna get back in as much as posible

.....11

esco · Mar 2, 2004

btw ... i was just busting your chops up above gary

esco · Mar 2, 2004

eleven11 said:
I remember griz. very well. I was sittin there sucking my thumb and thinking as soon as I get out of here I wanna get back in as much as posible .....11

now that was funny

... a little comic relief is good.

Southernjuice · Mar 2, 2004

eleven11 said:
I remember griz. very well. I was sittin there sucking my thumb and thinking as soon as I get out of here I wanna get back in as much as posible .....11

Bob Smith · Mar 2, 2004

Population density for the world, roughly 29 people per square kilometer. Not exactly a lack of shoulder room.

Edit: Ok, that # was for total area, inlcluding surface water area. Only using land, its about 100 people per sq. km. Still not a crowded place.

sweettart29 · Mar 2, 2004

eleven11 said:
I remember griz. very well. I was sittin there sucking my thumb and thinking as soon as I get out of here I wanna get back in as much as posible .....11

I think U might get a kick out of this one...I had an ultrasound done when I was six months pregnant with derick...When they did the ultrasound he was sucking his thumb...With his other hand it looked like he was flippin us the bird, as if to say stop looking at me....I have the pic from the ultrasound of it in his baby book...

eleven11 · Mar 2, 2004

esco said:
now that was funny ... a little comic relief is good.

Well lets face it this is one of those threads where no one is going to change anyones mind. I just don't want it to get out of hand.........11

esco · Mar 2, 2004

eleven11 said:
Well lets face it this is one of those threads where no one is going to change anyones mind. I just don't want it to get out of hand.........11

i totally agree ... and good story above too ... nothing like the little guys first picture. i look so forward to have a lil me runnin around some day.

Bob Smith · Mar 2, 2004

sweettart29 said:
I think U might get a kick out of this one...I had an ultrasound done when I was six months pregnant with derick...When they did the ultrasound he was sucking his thumb...With his other hand it looked like he was flippin us the bird, as if to say stop looking at me....I have the pic from the ultrasound of it in his baby book...

Oh boy, another "I have 4 kids" post!

jk Sweet!

Southernjuice · Mar 2, 2004

Done with this thread too......take care guys. Good topic.

Grizzly · Mar 2, 2004

Bob Smith said:
Grizz, I dont think Desi was trying to get an emotional response. Im sure it was just a wrong choice of wording, not a conscious decision regarding "Oh, well using this word will make it sound REALLY bad." Give the kid some slack.

Ok, I'll give him some slack and, by doing so, I take away some of the credit I gave him. He probably did not choose that word intentionally, but all the pro-lifers sure as fuck do. It's an emotional appeal. Call it a fetus and it sounds unimportant, but call it a BABY and all of a sudden it sounds bad.

To whomever caught the memory thing-

Yes, I realize that it's a semi-faulty argument. However, an ebryo/fetus is far, far from a fully developed human being. An infant, though memory-less as an adult, IS a fully developed human being.

To add more to the debate and maybe slightly alter the course of this thread... What about "pulling the plug" on a "vegetable"?

This is analogous to abortion in that the individual on life support can not survive without the support of the machines. Likewise, the fetus can not survive without the support of the mother's body.

If you believe it's alright to "pull the plug" then I don't see where you can argue against abortion.

patsfan · Mar 2, 2004

Bob Smith said:
Population density for the world, roughly 29 people per square kilometer. Not exactly a lack of shoulder room.

Edit: Ok, that # was for total area, inlcluding surface water area. Only using land, its about 100 people per sq. km. Still not a crowded place.

Bob its not now but the future. Also its viable land not desert and mountains. It is also the resourses that you have to worry about. The population has gone from 2.5 billion in 1950 to 6 billion now. Heres a chart. http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/img/worldpop.gif

Things are only getting worse and you can choose to ignore it but its not gonna make it go away.

esco · Mar 2, 2004

very good point grizz ...

Chip Bronson · Mar 2, 2004

Bob Smith said:
Population density for the world, roughly 29 people per square kilometer. Not exactly a lack of shoulder room.

Edit: Ok, that # was for total area, inlcluding surface water area. Only using land, its about 100 people per sq. km. Still not a crowded place.

that's overpopulation if you ask me. i'll be the first one on that shuttle to uranus...

nickw · Mar 2, 2004

Grizzly · Mar 2, 2004

Freaky Freddy alread rode the shuttle into Bob's anus.

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