What is your opinion of abortion?

there is overpopulation, largely plentiful effective contraception.. so I think abortion is ok, but they should lower the max time to 2 months, I think the current 4 months is brutal, and close to murder if a 4 month old was aborted
 
Grizzly said:
Ok, I'll give him some slack and, by doing so, I take away some of the credit I gave him. He probably did not choose that word intentionally, but all the pro-lifers sure as fuck do. It's an emotional appeal. Call it a fetus and it sounds unimportant, but call it a BABY and all of a sudden it sounds bad.

To whomever caught the memory thing-

Yes, I realize that it's a semi-faulty argument. However, an ebryo/fetus is far, far from a fully developed human being. An infant, though memory-less as an adult, IS a fully developed human being.

To add more to the debate and maybe slightly alter the course of this thread... What about "pulling the plug" on a "vegetable"?

This is analogous to abortion in that the individual on life support can not survive without the support of the machines. Likewise, the fetus can not survive without the support of the mother's body.

If you believe it's alright to "pull the plug" then I don't see where you can argue against abortion.
It ok to pull the plug if you have living will that lets you make the choice yourself...choose to do with your body whatever you want....it's not the same as taking a life that has just begun. Pulling the plug is sometimes thought of as the merciful thing to do and in some instances i agree...but don't compare it to a life that has'nt had the chance to experience. We can't sit here "HOLIER than thou" and say the world would be better without this yet to born human....would have been better without you?
 
Grizzly said:
Ok, I'll give him some slack and, by doing so, I take away some of the credit I gave him. He probably did not choose that word intentionally, but all the pro-lifers sure as fuck do. It's an emotional appeal. Call it a fetus and it sounds unimportant, but call it a BABY and all of a sudden it sounds bad.

To whomever caught the memory thing-

Yes, I realize that it's a semi-faulty argument. However, an ebryo/fetus is far, far from a fully developed human being. An infant, though memory-less as an adult, IS a fully developed human being.

To add more to the debate and maybe slightly alter the course of this thread... What about "pulling the plug" on a "vegetable"?

This is analogous to abortion in that the individual on life support can not survive without the support of the machines. Likewise, the fetus can not survive without the support of the mother's body.

If you believe it's alright to "pull the plug" then I don't see where you can argue against abortion.

I "put the plug to a vegetable once". I think it was a cantalope. But I was young and really horny. Is that the same thing?
 
[I "put the plug to a vegetable once". I think it was a cantalope. But I was young and really horny. Is that the same thing?

LOL! :D
 
Sorry, I thought that when you called me a "complete and utter asshole you were being serious. Sorry my bad. :D
 
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Grizzly said:
I love it. I think it's great and should be practiced much, much more than it is. Any small, white trash town of 10,000 people should only have about 6000 since most of the inhabitants shouldn't have been born to begin with.

If for no other reason, it's a quality of life issue. What good can possibly come to a child being raised by two inbred rednecks that never even graduated high school?

HEY GRIZ,,, 19.000 IN MY TOWN,,,,,,
 
That might be like the next town over from here. Pretty scary place. The houses look worse than those you find in the ghettos of a major city.

Not to be metro-centric, but quite frankly, rural areas are fucking disgusting. I love trees, hunting, fishing, getting drunk in the middle of a field, etc., but the inhabitants are sick, pathetic individuals.

After 7 years in this town, I think I will forever more reside in a town where a house doesn't cost less than a Cadillac.
 
Sc

Damn Griz,,you Got Something Against Mayberry,, But We Do Have Areas Called The Mill Hill Where The Houses Were Built By The Textile Companys And Rented To People Cheap To Keep Them Near The Plants And To Own Then A Little More. Now They Are Just Crack Houses. As For Me ,,,yes I Can Piss Off The Front And Back Porch Without Worrying About Anyone Seeing Me. If I Get A Mile Away From Cowshit I Get Nervous. :d
 
IF its not alive than how in the fuck can people be charged with homicide when they cause a car wreck and the mom loses the "cells"? The double standard really fucking pisses me off. motherfuckers
Grizzly said:
Damnit, DBP, you're stealing my thunder. :)

You can't call a fetus alive. It is not alive at all. Prior to viability, the fetus cannot survive on it's own. In one sense, a fetus is analogous to a parasite. It lives off of the host organism.
 
sc redneck said:
Damn Griz,,you Got Something Against Mayberry,, But We Do Have Areas Called The Mill Hill Where The Houses Were Built By The Textile Companys And Rented To People Cheap To Keep Them Near The Plants And To Own Then A Little More. Now They Are Just Crack Houses. As For Me ,,,yes I Can Piss Off The Front And Back Porch Without Worrying About Anyone Seeing Me. If I Get A Mile Away From Cowshit I Get Nervous. :d

Nah, nothing against Mayberry. Mayberry is nice. Unforntunately, most rural areas look nothing like Mayberry or a Norman Rockwell painting. Ever been to the Ozark mountains? LOL
 
Grizzly said:
Nah, nothing against Mayberry. Mayberry is nice. Unforntunately, most rural areas look nothing like Mayberry or a Norman Rockwell painting. Ever been to the Ozark mountains? LOL
do I hear a banjo playing.......11
 
thick said:
IF its not alive than how in the fuck can people be charged with homicide when they cause a car wreck and the mom loses the "cells"? The double standard really fucking pisses me off. motherfuckers
Whats his face...dipshit from Modesto on trial..Peterson. Hes being charged with 2 counts of murder. He's screwed on both counts. Fry 'im, fry 'im!
 
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