What needle length for my delts?

[mikeh1998]

Use a BD 3 mL syringe with 1" 25 gauge needle at every site IM like a real man!

 

[xrayphoton13]

@xrayphoton13 also how much can I inject into my delt?

Not sure if 0.5ml or 1ml is the upper limit?

I do 1ml in front middle and rear delt. And I'm by no means a mass monster. No issues in two years

 

[readalot]

I already pin my glutes. Would love to know how to pin the ventrogluteal muscle and chest too.

See videos posted for VG/DG.

 

[Ghoul]

As you can see 1/2" side delt is the consensus.

I prefer 27g, luer lock.

Essentially painless, no concerns over thickness of the oil with a thin wall needle (flows like 25g).

Thousands of pins into alternating delts, no scarring, never once a lump.

As someone noted, a century of experience led to this being the default IM spot for doctors injecting 1ml or less.

 

[Training till failure]

VG is terrific and I do it constantly, pinning something VG every day. Benefit is even if you get scar tissue who really gives a shit, nobody is paying attention to that area.

Not sure if I can actually find it and what needle length I would need for that?

These are the needles I use when pinning glutes.

Not sure if I can use these or would they be too long?

 

[Training till failure]

As you can see 1/2" side delt is the consensus.

I prefer 27g, luer lock.

Essentially painless, no concerns over thickness of the oil with a thin wall needle (flows like 25g).

Thousands of pins into alternating delts, no scarring, never once a lump.

That's great to know know. Cheers

 

[xrayphoton13]

Just a matter of how much patience you have.

Definitely. If I have three or four syringes to fill it just took way too long. If I was only drawing 0.2cc that would be different. I can't feel a difference between 29 and 27ga but I do feel less likely to bend a 27ga while injecting which is nice. And drawing from a vial feels like it's 3-4x faster than a 29ga

 

[Sicsemptyran]

Not sure if I can actually find it and what needle length I would need for that?

These are the needles I use when pinning glutes.

Not sure if I can use these or would they be too long?View attachment 311790

I use 29g .5 in and have never used anything longer despite pinning every location possible, I’m a pretty lean guy though so individual experience may vary.

I personally would consider that an absolute harpoon for the VG and wouldn’t use it personally.

 

[Training till failure]

I use 29g .5 in and have never used anything longer despite pinning every location possible, I’m a pretty lean guy though so individual experience may vary.

I personally would consider that an absolute harpoon for the VG and wouldn’t use it personally.

It is a harpoon lol

I pin like 2.5ml in each glute and the oil I use is very high concentration and thick asf, so take forever to draw up and takes a while to pin lol

 

[Ghoul]

Definitely. If I have three or four syringes to fill it just took way too long. If I was only drawing 0.2cc that would be different. I can't feel a difference between 29 and 27ga but I do feel less likely to bend a 27ga while injecting which is nice. And drawing from a vial feels like it's 3-4x faster than a 29ga

In a way I find the stiffness of 27g to make it less painful than 29g for some reason. It's not as if there's a huge difference. but the faster flow also means I've never had to warm up oils since going to 27g.

 

[Ghoul]

It is a harpoon lol

I pin like 2.5ml in each glute and the oil I use is very high concentration and thick asf, so take forever to draw up and takes a while to pin lol

Luer lock means you can draw via a spike. Not only does this flow like a firehose, but not dulling the needle by piercing the stopper with it makes a difference you can really feel.

Also reducing the amount of rubber coring material you're injecting. Less risk of microemboli developing, a near certainty if you use the same needle to draw and inject.

 

[Training till failure]

Luer lock means you can draw via a spike. Not only does this flow like a firehose, but not dulling the needle by piercing the stopper with it makes a difference you can really feel.

Also reducing the amount of rubber coring material you're injecting. Less risk of microemboli developing, a near certainty if you use the same needle to draw and inject.View attachment 311792

I draw with these needles normally from UK medi

 

[Ghoul]

I draw with these needles normally from UK mediView attachment 311797

Typically a vial spike costs less than separate draw needles, and again, each time you pierce you create more stopper particles, the vast majority of which are invisible to the naked eye.

 

[Training till failure]

Typically a vial spike costs less than separate draw needles, and again, each time you pierce you create more stopper particles, the vast majority of which are invisible to the naked eye.View attachment 311811

Do you mean this?

20mm Vadsite Vial Adapter Vygon

Needlefree vial access device adapter for use when aspirating drug from capped vial and drug reconstruction Size 20mm to fit 10ml Vial Latex Free DEHP Free Pyrogen Free Sterile CE Marked

ukmedi.co.uk

 

[Ghoul]

Do you mean this?View attachment 311813

20mm Vadsite Vial Adapter Vygon

Needlefree vial access device adapter for use when aspirating drug from capped vial and drug reconstruction Size 20mm to fit 10ml Vial Latex Free DEHP Free Pyrogen Free Sterile CE Marked

ukmedi.co.uk

Love the "swabbable" top (has an auto closure), but you can surely do better price wise. Are you in the UK?

 

[Training till failure]

Love the "swabbable" top (has an auto closure), but you can surely do better price wise. Are you in the UK?

Yeah I'm in the UK

 

[Ghoul]

Yeah I'm in the UK

B. Braun Mini -Spike® 2 - 1 piece

B. Braun Mini -Spike® 2 -1 piece Removing and clamping spike for multi-cans containers with safety valve and 0.45 µm ventilation filter Details The B. Braun Mini-Spike® 2 ensure a slight removal and addition of medicines through optimal pressure compensation, reduced risk of contamination. With...

altruan.com

 

[Training till failure]

B. Braun Mini -Spike® 2 - 1 piece

B. Braun Mini -Spike® 2 -1 piece Removing and clamping spike for multi-cans containers with safety valve and 0.45 µm ventilation filter Details The B. Braun Mini-Spike® 2 ensure a slight removal and addition of medicines through optimal pressure compensation, reduced risk of contamination. With...

altruan.com

Absolutele legend.

I'll be ordering some now.

I've never used anything like this before, so sorry if this sounds stupid.

Do you still puncture the top with a drawing needle or just pop in/screw in the syringe and don't need a drawing needle when using this because it already punctures the vial?

Also can this only be used on a 10ml vial or can I also use it for any vial like my hgh and ghk-cu?

 

[Ghoul]

Absolutele legend.

I'll be ordering some now.

I've never used anything like this before, so sorry if this sounds stupid.

Do you still puncture the top with a drawing needle or just pop in/screw in the syringe and don't need a drawing needle when using this because it already punctures the vial?

Also can this only be used on a 10ml vial or can I also use it for any vial like my hgh and ghk-cu?

 

[Training till failure]

View attachment 311816

Also would you know where the cheapest place to buy needles from in the UK?

I use to use exchange supplies, but they sent me the wrong needles from what I ordered once and another time sent me the wrong syringes.

So I've only been using UK Medi since after that bs.