What’s the current state of generic GH

[Zeus088]

Hey all,

So I know this is a constant point of discussion but I wanted to get some current takes from experienced members on generic GH.

I’ve heard advice from both ends of the spectrum. Save your money up and use pharma or don’t use it at all. And, that generics can yield comparable results and don’t blow your money on pharma GH.

For example I was looking at a product that was tested by jano and the price was right, but I always wonder if buying GH based on price is kind of like shopping for a heart surgeon based on price.

Here’s the testing and wanted to hear your thoughts.

 

[Ateam2023]

Hey all,

So I know this is a constant point of discussion but I wanted to get some current takes from experienced members on generic GH.

I’ve heard advice from both ends of the spectrum. Save your money up and use pharma or don’t use it at all. And, that generics can yield comparable results and don’t blow your money on pharma GH.

For example I was looking at a product that was tested by jano and the price was right, but I always wonder if buying GH based on price is kind of like shopping for a heart surgeon based on price.

Here’s the testing and wanted to hear your thoughts. View attachment 306704

here our thoughts on what? Doesn't look bad ,,,,

 

[Zeus088]

here our thoughts on what? Doesn't look bad ,,,,

Is generic worth the investment? Or if you’re going to run GH stick to pharma.

 

[Ateam2023]

Is generic worth the investment? Or if you’re going to run GH stick to pharma.

thats all "personal preference " , if i could afford pharma hgh i would compare it to, but that not being the case , i use generic and have no complaints and have enjoyed the experience so far

 

[bjjgear]

Just depends on how much disposable income you have. If it's no big deal to drop an extra few grand a year, go pharma.

 

[Benf15harp]

Is generic worth the investment? Or if you’re going to run GH stick to pharma.

Save your money

 

[rexy]

to bother buying HGH or GLPs from pharma at this point, you'd need to have enough money to the point you don't care if it spouts legs and walks off, then combusts and cremates itself down the street. As long as you find a decent source, of which there are many, that's essentially what the money is doing if you buy pharma instead.

The testing on that one is perfectly fine for UGL, and slightly overdosed.

On the other hand, if you are rich enough, pharma is peace of mind for purity.

 

[bjjgear]

Kind of a silly analogy but it's kind of like spending $1200 on a pair of Edward Green oxfords versus $200 Allen Edmonds. Both are great: the EG's are certainly not an order of magnitude "better" than AE's. But if that $1000 means little, then the arguably small difference in quality means everything.

 

[narta]

Go buy Serostim so the rest of us can buy more generics.

 

[rexy]

Remember that HGH has to be run for decent lengths of time, and whilst I've no idea of your situation r.e dosing, most people end up probably between 5-10IU per day. Think what's sustainable long-term cost-wise for whatever dose you're going to be using.

Pharma mainly comes with peace of mind on purity and stability (i.e product hasn't degraded). As long as your source isn't trash, and you're not buying a super-old batch, I wouldn't worry. Results won't differ if dosage is the same and the cost of generics mean you can up the dose slightly to account for any degradation anyway.

 

[Ghoul]

Before I chime in with my opinion, consider this.

If money is plentiful, then pharma anything is better than UGL anything, merely for the assurance of strict quality control.

However, let me ask you this. Can you quantify the difference between pharma somatropin and UGL?

Let's not call it "generic". Generics are pharma, and regulated as such. UGL is an entirely different thing. It may even be made by legit pharma companies in China and snuck out of the back door, but from the moment it leaves the regulated environment, it's no longer pharma.

What is *different* between a 98%+ dimer free pharma GH and a UGL product with the same results?

Once that question is answered, then the next would be, "What can be done to close the gap?" between the two,

This isn't a religion requiring "faith in pharma". It's an objective subject and any differences should be able to be described.

Any idea?

 

[bjjgear]

Before I chime in with my opinion, consider this.

If money is plentiful, then pharma anything is better than UGL anything, merely for the assurance of strict quality control.

However, let me ask you this. Can you quantify the difference between pharma somatropin and UGL?

Let's not call it "generic". Generics are pharma, and regulated as such. UGL is an entirely different thing. It may even be made by legit pharma companies in China and snuck out of the back door, but from the moment it leaves the regulated environment, it's no longer pharma.

What is *different* between a 98%+ dimer free pharma GH and a UGL product with the same results?

Once that question is answered, then the next would be, "What can be done to close the gap?" between the two,

This isn't a religion requiring "faith in pharma". It's an objective subject and any differences should be able to be described.

Any idea?

One advantage of Serostim is they recommend keeping the powder form in a cool, dark environment, not under refrigeration. Easy to store. I've read anecdotes of Serostim being shelf stable for well over 5 years.

 

[rexy]

Before I chime in with my opinion, consider this.

If money is plentiful, then pharma anything is better than UGL anything, merely for the assurance of strict quality control.

However, let me ask you this. Can you quantify the difference between pharma somatropin and UGL?

Let's not call it "generic". Generics are pharma, and regulated as such. UGL is an entirely different thing. It may even be made by legit pharma companies in China and snuck out of the back door, but from the moment it leaves the regulated environment, it's no longer pharma.

What is *different* between a 98%+ dimer free pharma GH and a UGL product with the same results?

Once that question is answered, then the next would be, "What can be done to close the gap?" between the two,

This isn't a religion requiring "faith in pharma". It's an objective subject and any differences should be able to be described.

Any idea?

One is how it's reconstituted, and the person can screw it up on their end by not diluting appropriately or with a quality bac water.

 

[Zeus088]

thats all "personal preference " , if i could afford pharma hgh i would compare it to, but that not being the case , i use generic and have no complaints and have enjoyed the experience so far

Makes total sense. That’s what I’ve heard as well. A couple guys who are actually using good generics are experiencing good results, so I’m going to roll with it. I like the it was tested through Jano and I’ve used the company before so it seems worth it. Thanks for sharing your experience with it!

 

[Zeus088]

to bother buying HGH or GLPs from pharma at this point, you'd need to have enough money to the point you don't care if it spouts legs and walks off, then combusts and cremates itself down the street. As long as you find a decent source, of which there are many, that's essentially what the money is doing if you buy pharma instead.

The testing on that one is perfectly fine for UGL, and slightly overdosed.

On the other hand, if you are rich enough, pharma is peace of mind for purity.

This is fantastic Yeah I’m not trying to mortgage my house for pharma GH, so I was either just going to skip it or go generic.

 

[Zeus088]

Go buy Serostim so the rest of us can buy more generics.

I’ll stock up on Nglena for you.

 

[Zeus088]

Before I chime in with my opinion, consider this.

If money is plentiful, then pharma anything is better than UGL anything, merely for the assurance of strict quality control.

However, let me ask you this. Can you quantify the difference between pharma somatropin and UGL?

Let's not call it "generic". Generics are pharma, and regulated as such. UGL is an entirely different thing. It may even be made by legit pharma companies in China and snuck out of the back door, but from the moment it leaves the regulated environment, it's no longer pharma.

What is *different* between a 98%+ dimer free pharma GH and a UGL product with the same results?

Once that question is answered, then the next would be, "What can be done to close the gap?" between the two,

This isn't a religion requiring "faith in pharma". It's an objective subject and any differences should be able to be described.

Any idea?

Thanks @Ghoul definitely see what you’re saying with “generic” vs UGL. Didn’t think of that. And that last statement is what I was shooting for. I feel like this conversation on various YouTube channels does take on like a religious debate tone or politics.

 

[Grey Spartan]

This isn't a religion requiring "faith in pharma". It's an objective subject and any differences should be able to be described.

This about sums it up.

 

[181]

I have run Pharma and "generic" for many years and have only seen a difference in the water weight with the lower purity or stuff with dimerization. The higher quality no dimer have done me just as good as serostims I took for years I got from a guy who was prescribed them.

 

[Zeus088]

I have run Pharma and "generic" for many years and have only seen a difference in the water weight with the lower purity or stuff with dimerization. The higher quality no dimer have done me just as good as serostims I took for years I got from a guy who was prescribed them.

Thanks man! That’s what I’ve heard, like seeing some swelling in ankles or feet or water weight. So that’s good to know what to look for when researching.