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noBut are you triple filtering it immediately prior to use? Otherwise you're gonna become immune to your own endogenous hGH. Or get mad cow disease.
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noBut are you triple filtering it immediately prior to use? Otherwise you're gonna become immune to your own endogenous hGH. Or get mad cow disease.
This is exactly the case.Or maybe it's a non-issue and some people tend to hyper-focus on certain issues. This wouldn't be the first time.
I know the more people read the same thing, the more likely they are to believe it and begin to parrot it themselves. That hasn't happened to me and this.
What is the prediction for bodybuilders who abused hGH 30 years ago? Is there some health mystery afflicting them that hGH antibodies could explain? Anything bad that happens for the rest of your life can be blamed on using unfiltered hGH?
Why?You had people in here talking about filtering GH. A dumb idea in itself.
Again posting studies that need allot of extrapolation and interpretation to line up with your claims....Evolution of the immune system in humans from infancy to old age - PMC
This article reviews the development of the immune response through neonatal, infant and adult life, including pregnancy, ending with the decline in old age. A picture emerges of a child born with an immature, innate and adaptive immune system, ...pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Figure - PMC
This article reviews the development of the immune response through neonatal, infant and adult life, including pregnancy, ending with the decline in old age. A picture emerges of a child born with an immature, innate and adaptive immune system, ...pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Children’s Immune Systems Differ From Adults. Here’s What That Could Mean for COVID-19
Children’s innate immune responses might be behind their milder COVID-19 infections. But much less is known about how much kids are spreading SARS-CoV-2 to others.www.discovermagazine.com
COVID survival rates by age were another recent example of all this.
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COVID-19 deaths by age U.S. 2023 | Statista
Between the beginning of January 2020 and June 14, 2023, of the 1,134,641 deaths caused by COVID-19 in the United States, around 307,169 had occurred among those aged 85 years and older.www.statista.com
This is exactly the case.
What you have here is someone who is bringing up good discussion. Unfortunately he then takes the information he finds and makes up an unqualified assumption that the data often doesn't directly support.
You had people in here talking about filtering GH. A dumb idea in itself.
The potential for immune system reactions is a real thing. However it's hard to separate fact from stimulant induced mania.
Again, great to talk about...but having tons of time to "research" and hypothesize does not make one qualified to draw conclusions where data doesn't exist.
Easy on the insults there .. I'd rather be on the knuckle dragging spectrum than the forum goblin that spends most of his existence worrying about everything ,side...What you have here is a "know nothing", who sees the opportunity to gain credibility in the eyes of other shallow, binary, thinkers. Nuance is alien to such people. With very limited cognitive resources, they can only deal with certainties. Attempting to foresee problems which aren't right in front of them, and take measured steps to avoid them on the balance of probabilities is not possible for knuckle draggers like this.
These facts are indisputable:
-Immunogenicity to protein drugs cause a host of, often difficult to quantify, negative outcomes, ranging from a temporary reduction in efficacy, to death.
-Aggregates are a major, if not the primary factor in inducing immunogenic reactions.
-The steps taken in pharma produced drugs to minimize aggregation are not used in UGL peptides. In the absence of aggregate control, larger quantities of aggregates will be present.
Therefore, reducing aggregates is prudent to reducing risk and potential harms.
Advocating against the simple steps required to minimize this risk factor is "harm induction", not harm reduction.
I don't see any reason against filtering peptides..if one doesn't want to do it fine but let's not write shit like it's harmful to filter a fucking peptide.This is exactly the case.
What you have here is someone who is bringing up good discussion. Unfortunately he then takes the information he finds and makes up an unqualified assumption that the data often doesn't directly support.
You had people in here talking about filtering GH. A dumb idea in itself.
The potential for immune system reactions is a real thing. However it's hard to separate fact from stimulant induced mania.
Again, great to talk about...but having tons of time to "research" and hypothesize does not make one qualified to draw conclusions where data doesn't exist.
And I will say this again ,show us a study with adult relatively healthy ,non pregnant individuals on GH and huge doses of immune suppressing AAS.
Easy on the insults there .. I'd rather be on the knuckle dragging spectrum than the forum goblin that spends most of his existence worrying about everything ,side...
as you will eventually find out there are infinite variables and even if you filter your peptides some other thing will eventually get you...reducing one small variable is not going to reduce harm in the big picture...
People using these peptides in the first place is a huge health gamble....
And what ,you think your GLP-1 are safe? just because you have shit genetics and they help you control appetite... A little biased are we now....
I don't see any reason against filtering peptides..if one doesn't want to do it fine but let's not write shit like it's harmful to filter a fucking peptide.
I mean we can still keep the discussion on a good level without resorting to complete utter bullshit like the one you just dropped.
If you have ANY literature how it is nonsense to filter HGH I'll gladly read it and apologize.
Until then, don't.
You had people in here talking about filtering GH. A dumb idea in itself.
there's a thread with a price/comparison chart that is kept pretty current, @MyNameIsJeff(Thank you) i believe is the man behind that chart, ,Which HGH generic at the moment is the most available and/or with a good quality/price ratio? I would go for Meditrope but the black tops mess with my sleep. Can only dose them several hours before sleeping but not before bed. Mauve tops haven't been available in Europe for at least a year. QSC is now most likely history. So what else are there available in Europe?
Opti gray tops, Lobster Domestic.Which HGH generic at the moment is the most available and/or with a good quality/price ratio? I would go for Meditrope but the black tops mess with my sleep. Can only dose them several hours before sleeping but not before bed. Mauve tops haven't been available in Europe for at least a year. QSC is now most likely history. So what else are there available in Europe?
Opti gray tops, Lobster Domestic.
You're asking for literature on Ghoul's paranoid conclusion? That's impossible to do, and my point. It's great to bring up the topic, but be realistic about where the actual data ends and paranoid delusions begin.I don't see any reason against filtering peptides..if one doesn't want to do it fine but let's not write shit like it's harmful to filter a fucking peptide.
I mean we can still keep the discussion on a good level without resorting to complete utter bullshit like the one you just dropped.
If you have ANY literature how it is nonsense to filter HGH I'll gladly read it and apologize.
Until then, don't.
Can you show some examples of studies showing where they have compared groups who filter GH and those who don't?What you have here is a "know nothing", who sees the opportunity to gain credibility in the eyes of other shallow, binary, thinkers. Nuance is alien to such people. With very limited cognitive resources, they can only deal with certainties. Attempting to foresee problems which aren't right in front of them, and take measured steps to avoid them on the balance of probabilities is not possible for knuckle draggers like this.
These facts are indisputable:
-Immunogenicity to protein drugs cause a host of, often difficult to quantify, negative outcomes, ranging from a temporary reduction in efficacy, to death.
-Aggregates are a major, if not the primary factor in inducing immunogenic reactions.
-The steps taken in pharma produced drugs to minimize aggregation are not used in UGL peptides. In the absence of aggregate control, larger quantities of aggregates will be present.
Therefore, reducing aggregates is prudent to reducing risk and potential harms.
Advocating against the simple steps required to minimize this risk factor is "harm induction", not harm reduction.