What’s the current state of generic GH

[Standfast]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I remember a bunch of folks stating they were given fake Zomacton by Viking and the FAU or whatever that family of clinics was called. Did you get your product from the clinic or from compounding pharmacy? Mine was sent directly from pharmacy and I confirmed the numbers with Ferring.

How much did Viking charge you for the fakes? I paid about 450 usd with shipping for 5 mg box. Way too much.
There's another compounder that offers same 5 mg vial for 95 USD but clinic wants to charge me monthly concierge fee. Makes more sense to me to go directly with Geno Pens from the Zomacton.

It's was around $800+ per month straight from the clinic for 2iu per day.

I asked my pcp about a prescription last year and this is what I got back for pricing.

 

[readalot]

It's was around $800+ per month straight from the clinic for 2iu per day.

I asked my pcp about a prescription last year and this is what I got back for pricing.View attachment 314193

Yep that pricing list looks about right for retail cash pay. Those Geno pens if legit are definitely a price break.

12 mg for 160 to 200 usd.

 

[Sampei]

@readalot aren't you in the USA? Wtf man pm biggerban and get on the serostim train. Why are you getting robbed by those fuckers? Lol

 

[readalot]

biggerban

Hey that would be a cool username, lol.

Good point. Thanks for suggestion.

Examples

Geno pen:
160 USD / 36 IU

Serostim:
600 USD / 126 IU

So pretty close to each other.

 

[Sampei]

Hey that would be a cool username, lol.

Good point. Thanks for suggestion.

Examples

Geno pen:
160 USD / 36 IU

Serostim:
600 USD / 126 IU

So pretty close to each other.

Oh yeah I thought it was cheaper the serostim... My bad

 

[readalot]

Oh yeah I thought it was cheaper the serostim... My bad

I was reading it may be if you stand outside the clinics and try to find a seller. Anyway, thanks for bringing up the serostim angle.

 

[Sampei]

I was reading it may be if you stand outside the clinics and try to find a seller. Anyway, thanks for bringing up the serostim angle.

@biggerben69 how much it goes now a serostim kit?

 

[malfeasance]

LOL, probably send a pm . . .

 

[Sampei]

LOL, probably send a pm . . .

Why? We talk about price of stuff all the time around here.

 

[readalot]

600 (+/- 5%) USD per 126 IU kit still applicable based on my research.

 

[Sampei]

600 (+/- 5%) USD per 126 IU kit still applicable based on my research.

Go Lobster HGH mate and save yourself some money

 

[readalot]

Go Lobster HGH mate and save yourself some money

Working my way up to jumping off the high dive haha. Thanks.

 

[biggerben69]

@biggerben69 how much it goes now a serostim kit?

Back when I began my love affair with this product in 2005, it was understood that a 126iu kit of Serostim was going for $250 on the streets of Palm Springs, CA. The price was a little higher in LA.

I figured that amount was settled on because script holders get 4 Kits a month. $250 x 4= $1,000. A nice round #.

On the forums they were being sold for $700 to $800. Today, in the same areas, the price is between $400 and $450. If you find a guy with kits to sell you can get them for $350 dollars or so. Things are more "organized" when it comes to buying and selling HIV drugs in some areas.

These days guys selling them have an idea of what they can get for them. You can look up the retail cash paying price without insurance at any specialty pharmacy in your area and see the cost of a monthly supply of Serostim(4 kits) is $23k, give or take. Every script holder I have ever come across in CA doesn't pay a dime for their kits so when they sell it's all profit. No co-pay. It's $$ in their pocket.

There are so many things to talk about when it comes to Serostim and the role it's played in the different social circles you'll find the kits in.

Some of you older guys may remember that Dave "Jumbo" Palumbo was convicted in Federal court of distributing counterfeit Serostim and was sentenced to a year and one day in prison.

While gh isn't Scheduled like it's close friend AAS, the FDA has made GH the only approved drug that cannot be prescribed for off label use. What's more, the FDA has designated each brand of USA manufactured gh for a specific affliction.

Back in the 1980's the feds gave Serostim the nod to be the only GH that can be prescribed to treat the wastìng syndrome associated with hiv/aids.

This is why when it comes to USA pharm grade GH, Serostim is far and away what you will find being sold in gyms and anywhere you find legit USA pharm grade GH being sold.

Why? Serostim script holders get 4 Kits a month(i can only speak for CA ). They either pick the kits up each month or they are delivered to their homes. Gym rats and people looking for GH are aware from those who share the same interests that came before them.

Drugs that treat this disease, that back in the 80's came with a swift death sentence, have improved to the point that the disease isn't detectable in carriers. The fact is that people aren't dying from wasting any longer.

You'll find Serostim more than any other gh because the other brands are prescribed to kids with short stature and some other things that find kids deficient in gh. The parents of these kids are far less likely to divert their children's meds and sell them to meat heads or anyone else for that matter.

I could go on and on. Don't dare me to!! Time to eat. Thanks for the tag, Sampei

 

[Sampei]

Back when I began my love affair with this product in 2005, it was understood that a 126iu kit of Serostim was going for $250 on the streets of Palm Springs, CA. The price was a little higher in LA.

I figured that amount was settled on because script holders get 4 Kits a month. $250 x 4= $1,000. A nice round #.

On the forums they were being sold for $700 to $800. Today, in the same areas, the price is between $400 and $450. If you find a guy with kits to sell you can get them for $350 dollars or so. Things are more "organized" when it comes to buying and selling HIV drugs in some areas.

These days guys selling them have an idea of what they can get for them. You can look up the retail cash paying price without insurance at any specialty pharmacy in your area and see the cost of a monthly supply of Serostim(4 kits) is $23k, give or take. Every script holder I have ever come across in CA doesn't pay a dime for their kits so when they sell it's all profit. No co-pay. It's $$ in their pocket.

There are so many things to talk about when it comes to Serostim and the role it's played in the different social circles you'll find the kits in.

Some of you older guys may remember that Dave "Jumbo" Palumbo was convicted in Federal court of distributing counterfeit Serostim and was sentenced to a year and one day in prison.

While gh isn't Scheduled like it's close friend AAS, the FDA has made GH the only approved drug that cannot be prescribed for off label use. What's more, the FDA has designated each brand of USA manufactured gh for a specific affliction.

Back in the 1980's the feds gave Serostim the nod to be the only GH that can be prescribed to treat the wastìng syndrome associated with hiv/aids.

This is why when it comes to USA pharm grade GH, Serostim is far and away what you will find being sold in gyms and anywhere you find legit USA pharm grade GH being sold.

Why? Serostim script holders get 4 Kits a month(i can only speak for CA ). They either pick the kits up each month or they are delivered to their homes. Gym rats and people looking for GH are aware from those who share the same interests that came before them.

Drugs that treat this disease, that back in the 80's came with a swift death sentence, have improved to the point that the disease isn't detectable in carriers. The fact is that people aren't dying from wasting any longer.

You'll find Serostim more than any other gh because the other brands are prescribed to kids with short stature and some other things that find kids deficient in gh. The parents of these kids are far less likely to divert their children's meds and sell them to meat heads or anyone else for that matter.

I could go on and on. Don't dare me to!! Time to eat. Thanks for the tag, Sampei

thanks Ben, always a pleasure reading you

 

[DinoBB76]

Back when I began my love affair with this product in 2005, it was understood that a 126iu kit of Serostim was going for $250 on the streets of Palm Springs, CA. The price was a little higher in LA.

I figured that amount was settled on because script holders get 4 Kits a month. $250 x 4= $1,000. A nice round #.

On the forums they were being sold for $700 to $800. Today, in the same areas, the price is between $400 and $450. If you find a guy with kits to sell you can get them for $350 dollars or so. Things are more "organized" when it comes to buying and selling HIV drugs in some areas.

These days guys selling them have an idea of what they can get for them. You can look up the retail cash paying price without insurance at any specialty pharmacy in your area and see the cost of a monthly supply of Serostim(4 kits) is $23k, give or take. Every script holder I have ever come across in CA doesn't pay a dime for their kits so when they sell it's all profit. No co-pay. It's $$ in their pocket.

There are so many things to talk about when it comes to Serostim and the role it's played in the different social circles you'll find the kits in.

Some of you older guys may remember that Dave "Jumbo" Palumbo was convicted in Federal court of distributing counterfeit Serostim and was sentenced to a year and one day in prison.

While gh isn't Scheduled like it's close friend AAS, the FDA has made GH the only approved drug that cannot be prescribed for off label use. What's more, the FDA has designated each brand of USA manufactured gh for a specific affliction.

Back in the 1980's the feds gave Serostim the nod to be the only GH that can be prescribed to treat the wastìng syndrome associated with hiv/aids.

This is why when it comes to USA pharm grade GH, Serostim is far and away what you will find being sold in gyms and anywhere you find legit USA pharm grade GH being sold.

Why? Serostim script holders get 4 Kits a month(i can only speak for CA ). They either pick the kits up each month or they are delivered to their homes. Gym rats and people looking for GH are aware from those who share the same interests that came before them.

Drugs that treat this disease, that back in the 80's came with a swift death sentence, have improved to the point that the disease isn't detectable in carriers. The fact is that people aren't dying from wasting any longer.

You'll find Serostim more than any other gh because the other brands are prescribed to kids with short stature and some other things that find kids deficient in gh. The parents of these kids are far less likely to divert their children's meds and sell them to meat heads or anyone else for that matter.

I could go on and on. Don't dare me to!! Time to eat. Thanks for the tag, Sampei

$23K for 4 kit? fuck

it's common for bodybuilders we see on the stage of the olympia to use 1 vial of serostim every day (18 units), 1 kit per week

how do they get it? I knew of favors to those who used it for AIDS, or at this point it is stolen from the hospitals

 

[malfeasance]

Drugs that treat this disease, that back in the 80's came with a swift death sentence, have improved to the point that the disease isn't detectable in carriers. The fact is that people aren't dying from wasting any longer.

So why is it still prescribed (and not just in California)? There is not a huge shortage of Serostim on the black market in the USA.

 

[tuttifvnfrutti]

This is fantastic Yeah I’m not trying to mortgage my house for pharma GH, so I was either just going to skip it or go generic.

Back in the day, when the AIDS thing was trending, you'd get a script. Not sure if that's still a thing though...

 

[readalot]

More on the curious legal status at the Fed level:

Post in thread 'Is it ok to Start a lab and produce hgh and peptides finished vials in USA?'

Jan 25, 2025

there's a specific law against it.

21 U.S. Code § 333 - Penalties

www.law.cornell.edu

Civil Resource Manual 19. Human Growth Hormone/Steroids Statutory Overview

• readalot

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(3)Any conviction for a violation of paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection shall be considered a felony violation of the Controlled Substances Act [21 U.S.C. 801 et seq.] for the purposes of forfeiture under section 413 of such Act [21 U.S.C. 853].

 

[malfeasance]

More on the curious legal status at the Fed level:

Post in thread 'Is it ok to Start a lab and produce hgh and peptides finished vials in USA?'

Jan 25, 2025

there's a specific law against it.

21 U.S. Code § 333 - Penalties

www.law.cornell.edu

Civil Resource Manual 19. Human Growth Hormone/Steroids Statutory Overview

• readalot

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[readalot]

Party poopers

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