What’s the current state of generic GH

[Spaceman Spiff]

Pharma GH is dirtier and with a lot more dimer on average than generic GH.

By pharmacopeia the minimum purity and dimer acceptable is well below what anyone here would ever accept to inject if it was a generic xD

Just a small information to add to the whole conversation

There is a lot more into pharma GH than you think. I still say SERO has less sides than UGL

 

[Sampei]

There is a lot more into pharma GH than you think. I still say SERO has less sides than UGL

Indeed there probably is but it's not in what we can test.

It's in the excipients and formulations

 

[readalot]

This experience with the peps (reta, tirz, sema) has me now really considering a GH purchase. Also eyeing those geno pens for $160...is generic GH the same as pharma? I have my opinion on that

Pharma went to great lengths to demonstrate biosimilarity.

R

Post in thread 'The Lobster International, US and EU Domestic HGH, PEPTIDES and Turkish Pharmacy'

Mar 8, 2025

HCPs. Good question how UG labs address their removal and QC.

• readalot

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We have no idea what we are dealing with in terms of the leftover fermentation proteins in UG GH.

Geno shipped from Turkey vs Serostim? I'll take the Sero all day long for the slight additional cost per IU. Genos are supposed to stay refrigerated even prior to reconstitution. How big of a difference does that make? I'll go with the product that can stay at room temp in lyo form as directed by manufacturer.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Pharma went to great lengths to demonstrate biosimilarity.

R

Post in thread 'The Lobster International, US and EU Domestic HGH, PEPTIDES and Turkish Pharmacy'

Mar 8, 2025

HCPs. Good question how UG labs address their removal and QC.

• readalot

• 

We have no idea what we are dealing with in terms of the leftover fermentation proteins in UG GH.

Geno shipped from Turkey vs Serostim? I'll take the Sero all day long for the slight additional cost per IU. Genos are supposed to stay refrigerated even prior to reconstitution. How big of a difference does that make? I'll go with the product that can stay at room temp in lyo form as directed by manufacturer.

I’ll take the serostim all day long, too! What source are you getting that from here? Or is it prescribed via clinic?

 

[readalot]

What source are you getting that from here? Or is it prescribed via clinic?

One of the rare times you can answer yes and yes?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

One of the rare times you can answer yes and yes?

You have HIV?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I’ll take the serostim all day long, too! What source are you getting that from here? Or is it prescribed via clinic?

Hiv positive and muscle wasting. Need a prescription and to meet criteria. None of us are really able to afford cash price from a pharmacy. Needs insurance approval/payment and after that.... Well you know

 

[Sampei]

I’ll take the serostim all day long, too! What source are you getting that from here? Or is it prescribed via clinic?

There is a source selling kits domestic USA that has been operating for probably 20+ years. You need to get on his list however. Easier if someone brings you in and vouch for you.

I believe you will not have much difficulties in finding out who could help you get on that list around here

 

[AlexDavis43]

You have HIV?

Hiv positive and muscle wasting. Need a prescription and to meet criteria. None of us are really able to afford cash price from a pharmacy. Needs insurance approval/payment and after that.... Well you know

I’ll take the serostim all day long, too! What source are you getting that from here? Or is it prescribed via clinic?

It's not exactly a typical black market when it comes to Serostim. It's all prescribed via clinic. Then you buy the prescribed Serostim from the people it was prescribed to.

Unlike other pharma grade products that are available OTC in other countries.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

It's not exactly a typical black market when it comes to Serostim. It's all prescribed via clinic. Then you buy the prescribed Serostim from the people it was prescribed to.

Unlike other pharma grade products that are available OTC in other countries.

Understood. I forgot about that nuance to serostim. I am keen to the man, myth, and legend who facilitates that here.

 

[Rakusa]

so I've had this thought before but found no answer, where is a good place to find HIV patients that would be willing to sell their script?

 

[Sampei]

so I've had this thought before but found no answer, where is a good place to find HIV patients that would be willing to sell their script?

They are all waiting to tell you, just wait.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

so I've had this thought before but found no answer, where is a good place to find HIV patients that would be willing to sell their script?

Places with a high HIV patient population.


Hate to stereotype but high homosexual communities/cities.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Places with a high HIV patient population.


Hate to stereotype but high homosexual communities/cities.

So, Craigslist in the San Francisco area.

 

[Rakusa]

Places with a high HIV patient population.


Hate to stereotype but high homosexual communities/cities.

nah man they dont wanna sell it seems

 

[Urbananimated]

@biggerben69 how much it goes now a serostim kit?

How do I direct message you?

 

[Urbananimated]

See the discussion of this paper. IM injection just another tool in the toolbelt if you want to play it as safe as possible on antibody formation with long term GH use. Thanks for your extensive comments @Ghoul. Really nice.

Murphy's law already predicted I would fall into that roughly 1% or so. Hence, IM here I go. If it is good enough for Sampei then surely good enough for me.

No real downside to IM. Maybe a little less IGF-1 dose response vs SC.

Shooting gh via Sub Q gives you the most bioavailability.

 

[Ateam2023]

Shooting gh via Sub Q gives you the most bioavailability.

IMO the difference is so small i doubt the average user would even notice,, IM injecting just gets in bloodstream faster so it's out faster too, , Why don't you go to "THE NEW MEMBER " thread and post "Something USEFUL" , like an introduction to the MESO community as is proper protocol had you read the "rules" ,, Good day,,

 

[Ateam2023]

Shooting gh via Sub Q gives you the most bioavailability.