What's your current old man cycle?

[demon]

No problem with prostate enlargement?
I mean here reading all your comments I only hear about blood tests, but do any of you worry at your age about the condition of your prostate?

I had bloods done 5 times last year while trying to dial in test/primo and test and mast. Had psa done on every test. For me at least I've found that the higher my anabolic load the higher my psa. Just high test at 300mg a week drives it up. On trt 150mg a week my psa sits around 1.2. Bumping test to 300 and primo to 300 had it at 2.1. This also increases rbcs, hh,hgb.

 

[narta]

Just started a cycle

100 Test Iso 3x/week - ramp up to 300 Test Iso 3x/week
75/75 TPP/NPP 3xweek - ramp up to 200/200 3x/week
50 adrol 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
20 sdrol 2 weeks on 2 weeks off (on adrol off weeks)

Bloods every month, if all is within reasonable parameters it will go for 4-6 months. Orals will probably be out by 4th month and replaced with 150mg Tren E

Diet is as clean as possible, cardio 3x week for 45m-1h
Training is for the first time after years PPL. Higher reps feel weird.

So far I am 10 days in, +7lbs, BP 110/65, hrh low 70s
On 5mg nevibolol, 100mcg T4 (I have hypo), 2.5mg Tirz (for glucose control), 4iu hgh.


Let the games begin.

 

[ManK]

I had bloods done 5 times last year while trying to dial in test/primo and test and mast. Had psa done on every test. For me at least I've found that the higher my anabolic load the higher my psa. Just high test at 300mg a week drives it up. On trt 150mg a week my psa sits around 1.2. Bumping test to 300 and primo to 300 had it at 2.1. This also increases rbcs, hh,hgb.

i dont' interest blood test, (i make 8 blood test year);
blood test and psa tell me only if i have a prostate cancer.
I am talking about benign prostatic hypertrophy.
Prostate GROW in every male NATURAL with age, anabolic steroid (dht) increase prostate size (infact is used measure prostate in rats to value androgenicity of aas), so will grow MORE in every male that use anabolic steroid.
Only a andrologic control (with ultrasoundand with rectal examination ) can tell you how much your prostate i big...

I fear you were ignoring an extremely relevant aspect for your health.
Know that the day your prostate grows too much, to make you pee they will insert a catheter in your penis

 

[demon]

i dont' interest blood test, (i make 8 blood test year);
blood test and psa tell me only if i have a prostate cancer.
I am talking about benign prostatic hypertrophy.
Prostate GROW in every male NATURAL with age, anabolic steroid (dht) increase prostate size (infact is used measure prostate in rats to value androgenicity of aas), so will grow MORE in every male that use anabolic steroid.
Only a andrologic control (with ultrasoundand with rectal examination ) can tell you how much your prostate i big...

I fear you were ignoring an extremely relevant aspect for your health.
Know that the day your prostate grows too much, to make you pee they will insert a catheter in your penis

Thank you for your concern however I have no signs/symptoms of BPH. Yes I know that the prostrate grows as we age. Until I start seeing symptoms, it's not something I'm going to worry about. Also, both BPH and prostate cancer can raise your PSA level. My PCP isn't concerned unless it comes back out of range which would then require additional testing.

 

[malfeasance]

Just started a cycle

100 Test Iso 3x/week - ramp up to 300 Test Iso 3x/week
75/75 TPP/NPP 3xweek - ramp up to 200/200 3x/week
50 adrol 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
20 sdrol 2 weeks on 2 weeks off (on adrol off weeks)

Bloods every month, if all is within reasonable parameters it will go for 4-6 months. Orals will probably be out by 4th month and replaced with 150mg Tren E

Diet is as clean as possible, cardio 3x week for 45m-1h
Training is for the first time after years PPL. Higher reps feel weird.

So far I am 10 days in, +7lbs, BP 110/65, hrh low 70s
On 5mg nevibolol, 100mcg T4 (I have hypo), 2.5mg Tirz (for glucose control), 4iu hgh.


Let the games begin.

Jealous of the blood pressure. I can't get that low even on 75 mg a week of test and no hgh (and blood pressure meds).

Remind us of how old you are and your bodyweight?

 

[narta]

52

267lbs by no means lean

6'4"

BP and cholesterol are hereditary. But so is borderline prediabetic a1c and low hdl

 

[Untold2101]

Im 42 and been using AAS since 20. I only use HRT test & deca but higher doses. 300 test & 200 deca is my prescribed HRT. Sometimes I use 10-20mgs dbol preworkout a few times a week.

I think I need your doc! I've been considering going back on the books with my TRT so I can have Pharma again.

 

[malfeasance]

52

267lbs by no means lean

6'4"

BP and cholesterol are hereditary. But so is borderline prediabetic a1c and low hdl

Nobody else in my family struggles with high blood pressure, which does not mean it is not genetic, but nobody else in my family was a competing bodybuilder, either, and I tend to think there is a connection between my bodybuilding and the blood pressure issue - especially since it went up in tandem with my bodyweight. It was dangerously high when I was 251, still lighter than you, and it had been sneaking higher with each pound gained. When I finally made the call to stop and reverse course, it went down as I lost weight.

I am just struggling with the decision of "Do I really need to drop below 225 pounds?" LOL.

I'm six foot and 57, BTW - strangers still make comments from time to time about my build, even when I am in dress clothes, and especially when out and about in a T-Shirt, but nothing like when I was around 250. In my own head, I am weak and small and fat, though, and now having to consider maybe getting smaller and weaker . . . which is probably the right call. My BMI is still technically "obese" - if I lose 5 pounds I can get into "Overweight".

But I would need to lose another 42 pounds to hit the top of "normal" BMI . . . ugh.

183 pounds

137 to 183 pounds is the normal range for a 6 foot tall man.

 

[narta]

Nobody else in my family struggles with high blood pressure, which does not mean it is not genetic, but nobody else in my family was a competing bodybuilder, either, and I tend to think there is a connection between my bodybuilding and the blood pressure issue - especially since it went up in tandem with my bodyweight. It was dangerously high when I was 251, still lighter than you, and it had been sneaking higher with each pound gained. When I finally made the call to stop and reverse course, it went down as I lost weight.

I am just struggling with the decision of "Do I really need to drop below 225 pounds?" LOL.

I'm six foot and 57, BTW - strangers still make comments from time to time about my build, even when I am in dress clothes, and especially when out and about in a T-Shirt, but nothing like when I was around 250. In my own head, I am weak and small and fat, though, and now having to consider maybe getting smaller and weaker . . . which is probably the right call. My BMI is still technically "obese" - if I lose 5 pounds I can get into "Overweight".

But I would need to lose another 42 pounds to hit the top of "normal" BMI . . . ugh.

183 pounds

137 to 183 pounds is the normal range for a 6 foot tall man.

I dunno man, I never REALLY took care of myself, always went by how I felt not how I looked, so no massive up and down in bw in short amounts of time.
Sure I ve been over 300 in my younger days when I was moving serious weight and the amount of gear I was pushing was ridiculous but even then BP was manageable. My father has low BP my mother the same. I think it's more the weight fluctuations that do the most damage on bodybuilders than anything else.
I do need to drop some weight still, I feel the best at 230ish but since I got some juice left in the tank still I postpone it for a later day