What’s your favorite Pre-workout

[Country Club Hero]

For injectable preworkout I like a combination of Test base, Tren base and Halotestin. That’s gym god mode. But I probably only use that combo may once every 5 workouts or so. I have to limit myself because I’d prefer to use it for every workout but I know that’s probably not wise at age 45. That’s also my occasional pre-sex blend. For when I want to impress.

For a preworkout supplement I have been disappointed with the last several tubs of preworkout formulas. So I have been buying the stim based nootropic blends that come in capsules. Unfortunately my favorite one has been sold out for like 6 weeks so I’m gonna go straight for the big guns this week and will be deploying Adderral at 30mg pre-workout. Actually looking forward to it as I have not used adderral in several months. And don’t have a deep history with it either so my receptors should be kinda fresh.

I really need to take a complete stim break for a month to let everything reset. That would make everything more effective when starting back with stims.

 

[bigMoJo]

The long term effect of injecting guaiacol is more the concern here, nobody in the medical industry uses guaiacol as a solvent, it’s an industrial solvent.

I'm curious about long term guaiacol use. I know many don't like it. If it's because of the overwhelming smell, I completely understand (have to wear a hazmat suit to keep the smell at bay).

I picked up TNE with guaiacol (I know because the smell is undeniable), and have had some training sessions at different doses. Started at 50... then 70, then 60, then 40. 40 works great so far... at 70 its more than I need.

Now, I prefer 50mg D-Bol preWO... that's incredible for that purpose. 50mg A-drol in 2nd place... TNE in 3rd. They each have a slightly different effect... but the orals are closer to each other than TNE.

The strength gain from the orals is very noticeable. The focus from TNE is where it excels. These are my experiences with these compounds. And, you have to manage e2 a little more closely when running them... specifically with d-bol. D-Bol e2 (or estrogens plural) is more complex. Type-II just released an article on d-bol discussing d-bol and estrogen complexity. Sadly, I went through "trial by fire" before its release.

Here is the link:

Dianabol Insights: Unique Characteristics of Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids – Part 10

Explore Metandienone's (Dianabol) unique effects including potent estrogenic activity, cortisol suppression, increased hypertension, strong testosterone suppression.

thinksteroids.com

 

[glpfun]

My problem with some orals as a PWO is they make me feel like I’m on something and it extends well beyond the workout also gnarly heartburn which I treat when it happens but still annoying. I’ve noticed with low dose tren a I get more aggressive with pushing through my workout than if I don’t take it but I’m not necessarily more amped or anything just a little extra aggression which enhances focus for me. Dbol I agree is also a nice PWO but for different reasons than tren and the sides are a little harder for me to manage than low dose tren sides. I’ve been meaning to try anadrol and tne for pwo still to see how it compares, but so far tren is my favorite pwo

 

[Dirthand]

I made both ... suspension and oil based ... tried both.

I found the suspension to work better than oil ... faster acting and no need for powerfull solvents .

I am the complete opposite.. suspension test base and tren base hurt to me. Just kinda wondering if you say faster acting like an hour vs 1.5 hours in the oil base? As I stated I drew blood at 2 hrs post shot of tne and my rest levels were over 7000 so I'd say the oil hits pretty quick as well. Also as I have stated tne can also be made with very minimal to no super solvents as well... just my experince tho!
As far as guaiacol goes i use 4% in the tne i use almost just for the taste I get in my mouth after an injection.
Hugs
D

 

[Country Club Hero]

My problem with some orals as a PWO is they make me feel like I’m on something and it extends well beyond the workout also gnarly heartburn which I treat when it happens but still annoying. I’ve noticed with low dose tren a I get more aggressive with pushing through my workout than if I don’t take it but I’m not necessarily more amped or anything just a little extra aggression which enhances focus for me. Dbol I agree is also a nice PWO but for different reasons than tren and the sides are a little harder for me to manage than low dose tren sides. I’ve been meaning to try anadrol and tne for pwo still to see how it compares, but so far tren is my favorite pwo

Same here with me and orals. Try Halotestin. It’s one of those that some people rave about. Others not so much. Personally I’m a huge fan. I prefer halo in injectable form but very few sources carry that and it sells out fast when they do. But the oral form is great too. It’s unlike any other oral IME. And I don’t buy the whole “halo is super toxic” idea. I don’t think it’s any more harmful than the majority of other orals.

 

[Ateam2023]

I'm curious about long term guaiacol use. I know many don't like it. If it's because of the overwhelming smell, I completely understand (have to wear a hazmat suit to keep the smell at bay).

I picked up TNE with guaiacol (I know because the smell is undeniable), and have had some training sessions at different doses. Started at 50... then 70, then 60, then 40. 40 works great so far... at 70 its more than I need.

Now, I prefer 50mg D-Bol preWO... that's incredible for that purpose. 50mg A-drol in 2nd place... TNE in 3rd. They each have a slightly different effect... but the orals are closer to each other than TNE.

The strength gain from the orals is very noticeable. The focus from TNE is where it excels. These are my experiences with these compounds. And, you have to manage e2 a little more closely when running them... specifically with d-bol. D-Bol e2 (or estrogens plural) is more complex. Type-II just released an article on d-bol discussing d-bol and estrogen complexity. Sadly, I went through "trial by fire" before its release.

Here is the link:

Dianabol Insights: Unique Characteristics of Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids – Part 10

Explore Metandienone's (Dianabol) unique effects including potent estrogenic activity, cortisol suppression, increased hypertension, strong testosterone suppression.

thinksteroids.com

have you tried injectable Anadrol?

 

[Musmadar]

I am the complete opposite.. suspension test base and tren base hurt to me. Just kinda wondering if you say faster acting like an hour vs 1.5 hours in the oil base? As I stated I drew blood at 2 hrs post shot of tne and my rest levels were over 7000 so I'd say the oil hits pretty quick as well. Also as I have stated tne can also be made with very minimal to no super solvents as well... just my experince tho!
As far as guaiacol goes i use 4% in the tne i use almost just for the taste I get in my mouth after an injection.
Hugs
D

Suspension starts to kick in 1 hour, even less

I am the complete opposite.. suspension test base and tren base hurt to me. Just kinda wondering if you say faster acting like an hour vs 1.5 hours in the oil base? As I stated I drew blood at 2 hrs post shot of tne and my rest levels were over 7000 so I'd say the oil hits pretty quick as well. Also as I have stated tne can also be made with very minimal to no super solvents as well... just my experince tho!
As far as guaiacol goes i use 4% in the tne i use almost just for the taste I get in my mouth after an injection.
Hugs
D

Suspension starts to kick 1 hour later ...even less

45% BB for TNE 100 without guianacol seems like a lot of solvent for me...

I tried the Tren Base 50 ... from HYB and I can't stand the taste and smell of guianacol, I wonder what's the percentage they use but it's definitely way too much for me.

My next project will be test base suspension... micronised with acetone and mixed with Macrogolum.

 

[VidMc]

Took TNE for several month. Just as a pwo. Last week i did bloodwork. High kreatinin. Never had problems with my kidneys before. Wonder If it's just my overall steroid abuse ( also took anavar for quite some time) or maybe because of guianacol.

 

[Ateam2023]

Took TNE for several month. Just as a pwo. Last week i did bloodwork. High kreatinin. Never had problems with my kidneys before. Wonder If it's just my overall steroid abuse ( also took anavar for quite some time) or maybe because of guianacol.

to many Wonders and Maybes, high creatinine likely from aas load and hydration, ,

 

[mammajamma]

I am the complete opposite.. suspension test base and tren base hurt to me. Just kinda wondering if you say faster acting like an hour vs 1.5 hours in the oil base? As I stated I drew blood at 2 hrs post shot of tne and my rest levels were over 7000 so I'd say the oil hits pretty quick as well. Also as I have stated tne can also be made with very minimal to no super solvents as well... just my experince tho!
As far as guaiacol goes i use 4% in the tne i use almost just for the taste I get in my mouth after an injection.
Hugs
D

I had brewed some TNE @ 80mg in miglyol w/guaiacol a few years back (cant remember recipe), it was fine at first but crashed after a few days and would have to warm up to use, can some BA/BB be added to loosen it back up without heating? I still have several vials.

 

[Bigwheel]

TNE, boner pill and sea salt. Halo was the shit but too old for that now.

 

[Dirthand]

I had brewed some TNE @ 80mg in miglyol w/guaiacol a few years back (cant remember recipe), it was fine at first but crashed after a few days and would have to warm up to use, can some BA/BB be added to loosen it back up without heating? I still have several vials.

Ba is actually a good solvent for tne.. you can add a little to each vial and just do the math .. it will dilute your concentration tho.. what I use to do is make small batches until I got a couple sure fire ways.. and also I don't mind uncrashing a vial a couple of times before it is used up if crashing was the case. If it got to bad I'd just throw it out.. so yes you can add if you want.... just make sure you use a filter when you add(for sterility, and do the math on your concentration!!
Peace

 

[mammajamma]

Ba is actually a good solvent for tne.. you can add a little to each vial and just do the math .. it will dilute your concentration tho.. what I use to do is make small batches until I got a couple sure fire ways.. and also I don't mind uncrashing a vial a couple of times before it is used up if crashing was the case. If it got to bad I'd just throw it out.. so yes you can add if you want.... just make sure you use a filter when you add(for sterility, and do the math on your concentration!!
Peace

Will the Ba liquify the crystals at room temp or do I need to warm first then add?

 

[Dirthand]

Will the Ba liquify the crystals at room temp or do I need to warm first then add?

I could tell tou for sure ... probly not id put it in the vial and heat it shake the ahit outta it and heat it shake ... repeat..

 

[AlexDavis43]

For injectable preworkout I like a combination of Test base, Tren base and Halotestin. That’s gym god mode. But I probably only use that combo may once every 5 workouts or so. I have to limit myself because I’d prefer to use it for every workout but I know that’s probably not wise at age 45. That’s also my occasional pre-sex blend. For when I want to impress.

For a preworkout supplement I have been disappointed with the last several tubs of preworkout formulas. So I have been buying the stim based nootropic blends that come in capsules. Unfortunately my favorite one has been sold out for like 6 weeks so I’m gonna go straight for the big guns this week and will be deploying Adderral at 30mg pre-workout. Actually looking forward to it as I have not used adderral in several months. And don’t have a deep history with it either so my receptors should be kinda fresh.

I really need to take a complete stim break for a month to let everything reset. That would make everything more effective when starting back with stims.

If you haven't touched adderall in a while, 30 mg is gonna make you go nuts and probably lose sleep.

 

[Anat]

Am I the only one out here raw-dogging my workouts? No fancy pre-workout, no exotic stim cocktails - just water, electrolytes, and vibes. Yeah, I’ll sip on a Monster Wild Berry Tea about 30 minutes before and maybe throw in some carbs, but that’s about it. Meanwhile, some of you are out here treating leg day like a full-scale military operation - test suspension, orals, pre-workout formulas strong enough to reanimate the dead. Respect to the hardcore crowd, but I guess I’m just built different.

 

[Dirthand]

Am I the only one out here raw-dogging my workouts? No fancy pre-workout, no exotic stim cocktails - just water, electrolytes, and vibes. Yeah, I’ll sip on a Monster Wild Berry Tea about 30 minutes before and maybe throw in some carbs, but that’s about it. Meanwhile, some of you are out here treating leg day like a full-scale military operation - test suspension, orals, pre-workout formulas strong enough to reanimate the dead. Respect to the hardcore crowd, but I guess I’m just built different.

I made a decision to take steroids and lift for recreation, in no way do i intend on getting "raw dogged" by "vibing it" with fancy "wild berry tea" I will just continue to "lube it up" by injecting pure testosterone and letting the big dog eat!
Hugs
D

 

[Anat]

I made a decision to take steroids and lift for recreation, in no way do i intend on getting "raw dogged" by "vibing it" with fancy "wild berry tea" I will just continue to "lube it up" by injecting pure testosterone and letting the big dog eat!
Hugs
D

Respect, my man. If pinning pure test is what keeps the big dog eating, who am I to judge? I’ll just be over here sipping my wild berry tea, witnessing greatness in action.

 

[Dirthand]

Respect, my man. If pinning pure test is what keeps the big dog eating, who am I to judge? I’ll just be over here sipping my wild berry tea, witnessing greatness in action.

I'm am orange cream kinda guy!! This old rust bucket needs all the help it can get.

 

[Mongo966]

some of you are out here treating leg day like a full-scale military operation - test suspension, orals, pre-workout formulas strong enough to reanimate the dead.

It will change you. Don't try it.
Not even once.

have you tried injectable Anadrol?

Been doing 50mg of pharmacom's injectable anadrol with 40mg of oral dbol on chest and leg day recently. It definitely helps a lot with strength but I'm really impressed with the volume I can do. It's that feeling of bouncing back from each set quickly and feeling like I could stay in the gym for the whole day. I love it.