Which lab uses which oils?

[Astartes]

Did you forget to take your D2 blockers?

I'm actually trying to help new users like me to get a better overview of the labs without wasting days on research. And it's obvious that the indian labs are underdosed, DEUS filling their ampoules with 0.9ml, just look at their threads and labtests. Hilma is underdosed and also has a shitload of PIP reports. It's sad that apparently many users here are getting schizophrenic episodes when you say something against their favorite labs. It's cringe and it doesn't help safer use at all.

As a matter of fact, after days of research I just ordered some Driada Testo E because apparently it's the only "big" lab which doesn't causes PIP.

You see? I can criticize a lab for underdosing and still buy from it, because I don't have another options if I don't want to use shitty MCT oil as a carrier.

Yes, but his point was more that you sell the thread as being purely about oil content in your OP and subject line. Not efficacy or dosing.

There are a lot of shenanigans on boards with competing sources. Most of whom pretend to be users. This makes Meso members wary. Your post comes across as a bit disingenuous and therefore gets dismissed as such.

Just stick with carrier oils on this posting, and perhaps start a new post with more information on “reviews” at some point (with more credibility under your belt) when you have compiled more source information.

 

[Astartes]

It's not suitable for long esters, you would have to pin every day or every other day. Also alot of people get bad PIP or "test flu" from it and call that "normal"...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp6uF5nDkeU



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HqeTfw0jSM

Inaccurate. I brew multiple long ester products with MCT and get expected results in bloods.

 

[Astartes]

Oil type depends on ester,

for example long esters need thick oils like castor (decanoate, undecanote)

cypionate and enanthate need polyunsaturated fats like safflower, flaxseed oil

prop, phenylprop and acetate need thin oils like grape seed, MCT (most of MCT on market contains C12 and it may cause pain in muscle tissue, good MTC must contain only C8 and C10 and be USP)

If you use castor oil for prop it won t be taken by muscle tissue and prop ester will cause lump and pain in 2-3 days

If you use MCT for decanoate and undecanoate, MCT will be taken by muscle tissue and ester will cause lump and pain after 4-5 days

Sorry for my english if it is bad

Again. Inaccurate. Even with high concentration dosages. Now, I can see thicker carrier oils taking longer to be absorbed and having fractional impact on release due to surrounding the bigger Esther chains for a longer period of time… also slowing crystallization in muscle tissue… but that is it. It isn’t REQUIRED to pair big Esther chains with thicker oils, or ineffectual to pair them with light oils like MCT.

 

[Exhortae]

Can we get a thread about which lab uses which oils for their testosterone? Also if it causes you any post injection pain?

Here is my little research, please correct me if I am wrong.

Driada Medical	sesame, underdosed, no pip reports (?)
Hilma Biocare	sesame, underdosed, pip reports
Deus Medical	sesame, underdosed, pip reports
QSC	MCT
Pharmaqo Labs	MCT
Ultima	MCT
Titan Labs	MCT
GoodLyfe Anabolics	MCT
Human Labs	MCT
Liberty Labs	MCT
Balkan Pharma	miglyol
SP	miglyol
CatCafe	grapeseed, alternatively MCT
Pharmacom	grapeseed
Magnus	rapeseedoil
Liberty Labs	castor / ethyloleat
Akra	castor / ethyloleat
Bellon	castor / ethyloleat
Gentech	castor / ethyloleat
Mondial	castor / ethyloleat

sources: mostly posts on meso, german and uk forums

For the labs you claim are under dosed either you bring proof or you remove those claims

This forum is not a high school class

And balkan uses peach oil

 

[Zebedee]

It's not suitable for long esters, you would have to pin every day or every other day. Also alot of people get bad PIP or "test flu" from it and call that "normal"...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp6uF5nDkeU



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HqeTfw0jSM

Mr C-Reactive Protein couldn’t even find out the typical viscosity of MCT oil for those videos & their related website articles - he lists it as unknown, which is bollocks.

That he couldn’t even find that information out is hardly reassuring as to his research abilities.

As for his scaremongering about EO - it’s used as the sole carrier in several EU & UK licensed AAS products. By comparison, I’m not aware of MCT being used as an injectable carrier oil in a licensed product anywhere.

At the end of the day he’s just another unqualified bloke on the internet trying to pass himself off as an expert in order to make money, as per MPMD et al.

 

[vajsmentzer]

It's not suitable for long esters, you would have to pin every day or every other day. Also alot of people get bad PIP or "test flu" from it and call that "normal"...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp6uF5nDkeU



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HqeTfw0jSM

I'm using 500mg test(500mg/ml) MCT, no problems at all.

 

[DannyT73]

Chilton = MCT , source - it's on the labels

 

[Scheff]

If anyone is willing I would be very grateful if someone has some reasons that mig oil sucks. My old school supplier that went by alishop back when I used and had a good experience with for years now goes by ashop now and I’ve read on here that balken and sp have switched oils to mug and seems many don’t like it.

 

[LGOP528]

Could be a stupid question but Is there a way to tell by looking or tasting the gear what oil it is in? I got some grape seed oil to dilute some primo and it is yellowish but everything else I have is clear.

 

[vajsmentzer]

Could be a stupid question but Is there a way to tell by looking or tasting the gear what oil it is in? I got some grape seed oil to dilute some primo and it is yellowish but everything else I have is clear.

Mct is good solvent so it can remove ink from syringe, try that with mct.

 

[LGOP528]

I will give that a shot. I just noticed that my TRT prescription says GSO but it is clear. I am guessing it is just refined more than the GSO I ordered.

 

[Pensioner]

Chiron:
MCT for higher mg meds, GSO for standard.
EO is used in injectable orals.