Busted in 2008, 2013, 2015, and 2017.
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Why MESO is tough on sources
- Thread starter BigBaldBeardGuy
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S317
Member
Are you still over there “waiting on the truth”?
That's shameful. To discredit a members tests and then have sources with false tests.... Whats the point of even having a forum then? It would seem a major part of a forum is that so members could give honest reviews to help inform and protect other members. Testing by a member is one of the major things a member could do to help in this regard. It is not cheap. Just glad that Meso is different and members can "tell it like it is" and testing is actually valued.
lifter6973
Member
Damn, I didn't know it was that many and somehow I forgot about 2017 but now I sort of remember something.
I didn’t know about the 2008 one, but @sherk told me.
lifter6973
Member
yeah, I didnt remember that one either- I took almost a 10 year break from all PEDS and therefore boards starting right around 2006 - found out about the 2013/2015 stuff but didn't see anything going back to 2008
Villain
Member
If people were smart, they’d leave source boards altogether, but instead they love the community of like minded source sucking brothers.
I doubt there would be any truth from this.
Agreed. At this point its far beyond that though. Its like living in an alternate reality LOL. All of the tests @Jswole220 did were bad. They're just putting peoples health at risk. Gear is probably dirty as well.
I don't get it why people are bashing @Jswole220 for being the bearer of bad news as he's doing a service for the wider community.
Source boards are always going to be protecting their own sacred cows.
Testing is one of the best things someone could do for the community imo. He was spending money to help keep other people safe and validate whether the gear was legit. In my mind thats the most important thing for a source is legit member testing. Obviously OPSEC, T/A and communication matter as well, but I highly value member testing.
Yes the haters just hate their ox getting gored but the community's safety is what really counts and people should really know what they are getting for their hard earned coin.
Testing is key and here on Meso it's absolutely encouraged and members can then share their experiences.
I’ve had a a couple uncles and aunts that had to go into ICU for Covid, def hits home when it has to do with your family.
I do have a question though about your Uncle, you mentioned in another Thread he was 81 years old, but you mentioned he was 85 years old on here, and on ASF you said he was 80 years old. Are all these the same uncle? Just seemed odd you stated 3 different ages for the same Family member, unless it’s different Uncles, maybe that’s it.
Just curious.....
Oops my bad @Noah86 and thanks for catching that as made a typo. Meant 85 not 80 in that post at ASF and didn't really check my post before I posted it.
Meterman05
Member
I think some of the guys denial is they don't really want to admit that they got bunk gear. I think they are just afraid to admit they they spent money on something that's clearly not what they wanted. Almost as if it's weakness to admit defeat or that you got taken. I have been scammed by a lab for $1000 a couple years ago. I hated that feeling but there were lots of guys that got scammed same as I did so it wasn't like I was alone.
So instead of questioning how the product got under dosed or how it will made right they turned there anger on Jswole. The minute the mud started being slung things got to the point that the original intention was forgotten and it was just kid having a rock fight.
Once things started cooling down samples are being sent out for testing to verify the claims which I am sure some will. Then hopefully the lab will make people that have suspect product right and they will start testing going forward. I am not standing up for the behavior of the rep or the labs product but at least the lab closed shop until the other tests come back. That's a start. I have never heard of praetorian but they said they have been in business for 10 years so hopefully they will fix the issue compensate guys and move forward.
They also had a domestic package seized this year. It was around the time tone popped back up but I’m not sure if he actually ordered from them or not. What did uncle z do? Close the domestic side temporarily for a “ restock” because as they put it people bought up all of their stock lol. I thought it was pretty shitty to keep it hush hush and not say anything to warn people. People were ordering from them a couple weeks later and no clue a domestic package had just been seized. It’s obvious LE is all over them yet everytime they get busted they just find a new brewer and keep pushing forward. If you ask them where the domestic product comes from they will tell you it’s imported from their state of the art gmp facility overseas when in reality it’s just a basic ugl. Let’s be real though even the product from overseas isn’t produced in a gmp facility lol. I will say though all of the low bloods and complaints of bad gear almost always come from the domestic side. Not that I would even consider ordering from them but the international side seems decent for the most part unless of course you order from their pharma line all the aas are counterfeit. I was dumb enough to buy some omndren from them awhile back that I knew was fake the second I saw it. The head rep swears it was great quality because and I quote “ he broke out with acne really bad and sust always makes him break out” lol. I had a friend who ordered at the same time I did and ran it anyway. He pulled bloods on a gram of omndren and bloods came back in the 700s 5 weeks later. The head mods response? Well it’s obvious theirs some hormone in it. They also advertise British dispensary products that have been produced since operation gear grinder.
I’ve seen a lot of bs from them over the years. The one that sticks out the most was a guy who was running 800mg of test e and has bloods come back under 1k. The reps response? It’s because the guy admitted himself that he was not experienced with running gear and pulled bloods at wk 4 instead of wk5. He proceeded to tell him that when you start taking exogenous testosterone that your body will immediately stop producing it’s own testosterone and that will cause your testosterone to dip really low until week 5 when the exogenous testosterone is at peak levels. Anyone with the slightest bit of understanding of aas knows that’s completely false. Shockingly members ate it up and didn’t question it one bit.
I had hope that the situation with myself and praetorian would have the proper outcome. The lab would be known liars and scammers and get booted. I seriously doubt that will happen now since the solution is to let the rep handle the situation behind the scenes and select someone to send samples out. I was told by another asf mod they are not accepting testing from mods. I also heard a couple members tell me the same thing but I don’t see here it was said. I’d be willing to bet absolutely nothing happens to them and they continue to operate as normal. I wouldn’t be surprised one bit of I get banned and labeled a scammer.
when I first joined asf I had faith in the forum. I stayed away from meso and believed the lies that meso was ran by a group of people who vet sources and the only sources that get approved are the ones they get a pay check from. I saw a couple labs get called out and get booted for shady shit. Looking back on it now the sources were either brand new or not successful. The best decision I ever made was to come to meso and become a member here. Luckily I picked two of the sources on asf that are actually decent to source from. You couldn’t tell me that asf was like other forums. I even went as far as making myself look stupid and defending the forum here. Definitely a lesson learned and luckily I made it out without getting scammed for hundreds of dollars.
when I first joined asf I had faith in the forum. I stayed away from meso and believed the lies that meso was ran by a group of people who vet sources and the only sources that get approved are the ones they get a pay check from. I saw a couple labs get called out and get booted for shady shit. Looking back on it now the sources were either brand new or not successful. The best decision I ever made was to come to meso and become a member here. Luckily I picked two of the sources on asf that are actually decent to source from. You couldn’t tell me that asf was like other forums. I even went as far as making myself look stupid and defending the forum here. Definitely a lesson learned and luckily I made it out without getting scammed for hundreds of dollars.
Also wanna add that as soon as a member came in and posted what a pos asf admin is and to look into him on meso asf admin came in and asked the member to elaborate them almost immediately after locked the thread lol. A locked thread obviously can’t be responded to and in return will get lost in post and before you know it be buried several pages back.
TNotch347
Well-known Member
I did see a guy post bloodwork for that shit show of a lab came back low for 150mg test. Seems like they are starting To admit that his gear is shit
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