I just caught up with this thread.
There is only so much change that a group can handle at one time. At ASF, the amount of change and what kind of changes we see, will be dependent on how the changes are going to effect the owner's wallet.
I don't know how much money is going to be up for grabs at ASF with Praet leaving town?
With the owner at ASF being under federal indictment, he needs to plan in advance every step he takes before taking it.
Cooperating and making it clear to prosecutors that his partners were well aware that they were going to be selling illegal substances before doing so and met to discuss how to best hide those facts, is really the only way to possibly make things easier on himself.
Owning a board that profits from board fees paid by groups selling Schedule 3 drugs while somehow not illegal, can't say much as far as showing he plans on being a law abiding citizen after his case is closed.
Its not much of a stretch to believe what I've heard about the ASF owner also owning one of the ugl's on ASF. To get the most out of his investment its a no brainer.
There are examples of guys buying a bb'ing/steroid forum in order to showcase their brand. Anabolicboard/karius/ALP and Hardcore-underground/D-Red/Goldline being 2. Those are examples of guys doing so and not keeping it from the Community.
There absolutely are board owners who are behind ugl's who don't openly state they are doing so as well.
Just because a guy gets arrested...or indicted...doesn't mean all criminal activity is going to end. Quite to the contrary. For some, it signals the time to ramp things up.
Non Criminals find this concept difficult to assimilate? Common sense screams to start walking the straight and narrow. There are different Schools of thought that support arguments from both camps.
To the individual in the middle of it all, there are factors that make the decision an easy one. D-Red; career criminal. He has been cooperating with the feds who have been aware of what he's been doing since at least 2015 when the feds showed up to interview him and make him aware that he was either the Subject or Target of criminal investigation.
That's what the feds often do. It used to be reserved for White Collar crimes. Thats changed in the last decade.
People involved in federal drug cases are now receiving Target/Subject Letters informing them that there is a criminal investigation going on and they have a part in it.
This is something that should not be ignored. Its also something that a guy shouldn't handle on his own.
When a guy consults with a federal attorney, however, he may decide he has no choice but to respond to the letter himself and then show up to be interviewed by himself. Federal attorneys are roughly 5 to 10 times the cost of what an attorney in a state case will cost.
Its remarkable to me what some guys decide is the right time to act miserly and when its time to spend freely.
A bit off track. One last thought as i have to wrap this up..the night is young.
I have no doubt this setback hasn't ended customs run as the most powerful and popular rep on ASF...not by a longshot. His people that made up Team Praets aren't going to curl up and die either.
In fact, without a doubt, they are hard at work with a rebrand well underway.
All it takes are new labels? Buy new vials to start off and then work in what they had left when Jswole dropped the bomb.
I'd give it no more than 2 to 3 weeks from this very monent. Guys can take a few days off to do whatever it is guys who operate a UGL and get caught selling garbage to their customers do before being born again thanks to rebranding.
Its why the psl guys were so flippant responding to forged test results. They knew they weren't going to miss a meal. Its also why custom is so brazen standing his ground at ASF talking shit to Jswole and meso as a whole. He's not going anywhere and would love to tell everyone what i just did. We won't stop him or hurt him financially.
He's like a cancer. To rid the Community of him he'd have to be banned for life. Not gonna happen. Its up to all of us to not let anyone forget. Tell the new guys. Its a daunting task that will see many of us banned from the boards custom will frequent. Its all we can do, and he knows it.
There is only so much change that a group can handle at one time. At ASF, the amount of change and what kind of changes we see, will be dependent on how the changes are going to effect the owner's wallet.
I don't know how much money is going to be up for grabs at ASF with Praet leaving town?
With the owner at ASF being under federal indictment, he needs to plan in advance every step he takes before taking it.
Cooperating and making it clear to prosecutors that his partners were well aware that they were going to be selling illegal substances before doing so and met to discuss how to best hide those facts, is really the only way to possibly make things easier on himself.
Owning a board that profits from board fees paid by groups selling Schedule 3 drugs while somehow not illegal, can't say much as far as showing he plans on being a law abiding citizen after his case is closed.
Its not much of a stretch to believe what I've heard about the ASF owner also owning one of the ugl's on ASF. To get the most out of his investment its a no brainer.
There are examples of guys buying a bb'ing/steroid forum in order to showcase their brand. Anabolicboard/karius/ALP and Hardcore-underground/D-Red/Goldline being 2. Those are examples of guys doing so and not keeping it from the Community.
There absolutely are board owners who are behind ugl's who don't openly state they are doing so as well.
Just because a guy gets arrested...or indicted...doesn't mean all criminal activity is going to end. Quite to the contrary. For some, it signals the time to ramp things up.
Non Criminals find this concept difficult to assimilate? Common sense screams to start walking the straight and narrow. There are different Schools of thought that support arguments from both camps.
To the individual in the middle of it all, there are factors that make the decision an easy one. D-Red; career criminal. He has been cooperating with the feds who have been aware of what he's been doing since at least 2015 when the feds showed up to interview him and make him aware that he was either the Subject or Target of criminal investigation.
That's what the feds often do. It used to be reserved for White Collar crimes. Thats changed in the last decade.
People involved in federal drug cases are now receiving Target/Subject Letters informing them that there is a criminal investigation going on and they have a part in it.
This is something that should not be ignored. Its also something that a guy shouldn't handle on his own.
When a guy consults with a federal attorney, however, he may decide he has no choice but to respond to the letter himself and then show up to be interviewed by himself. Federal attorneys are roughly 5 to 10 times the cost of what an attorney in a state case will cost.
Its remarkable to me what some guys decide is the right time to act miserly and when its time to spend freely.
A bit off track. One last thought as i have to wrap this up..the night is young.
I have no doubt this setback hasn't ended customs run as the most powerful and popular rep on ASF...not by a longshot. His people that made up Team Praets aren't going to curl up and die either.
In fact, without a doubt, they are hard at work with a rebrand well underway.
All it takes are new labels? Buy new vials to start off and then work in what they had left when Jswole dropped the bomb.
I'd give it no more than 2 to 3 weeks from this very monent. Guys can take a few days off to do whatever it is guys who operate a UGL and get caught selling garbage to their customers do before being born again thanks to rebranding.
Its why the psl guys were so flippant responding to forged test results. They knew they weren't going to miss a meal. Its also why custom is so brazen standing his ground at ASF talking shit to Jswole and meso as a whole. He's not going anywhere and would love to tell everyone what i just did. We won't stop him or hurt him financially.
He's like a cancer. To rid the Community of him he'd have to be banned for life. Not gonna happen. Its up to all of us to not let anyone forget. Tell the new guys. Its a daunting task that will see many of us banned from the boards custom will frequent. Its all we can do, and he knows it.
