Jake long
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Yeah I jumped the gun and thought I got banned. Sorry about that........ just a little irritated about everything going on.
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Why MESO is tough on sources
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Yeah I jumped the gun and thought I got banned. Sorry about that........ just a little irritated about everything going on.
Jake long
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So there seems to be kind of mixed reviews about gear church. Some say he's not trustworthy others swear by him..... its pretty fucking hard to figure out whats what.
Mdrock98
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Go by testing bro. Sherk just answered your question.
Mdrock98
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Asf is not ideal because you can’t expose bad seeds. Cash rules everything around there.
Jake long
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Has anyone independently hplc test gear churches product? Or does everyone assume what he posts is real and just hope for the best? Im very curious.... not trying to sound like a ass
Mdrock98
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Look around his forum. I think he has Janos testing.. don’t quote me tho.
I haven’t seen anything independent but I did see GC posted a thread requesting that guys independently test the product they purchased and I think offered a lab credit. That’s usually encouraging.
When in doubt buy and send a sample. It’s easy enough to do. The lab testers will tell you how to mail it and it’s a small sample size. 1-2 ml empty Perfume vials on Amazon. The mail is slow as fuck but the private express carriers are fast.
Mdrock98
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Go to his sub forum. The testings is literally sticky’s.
sherk
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I have zero personal experience with GC. I was just simply answering your question. I would be surprised if his tests from jano were fake. Those get caught pretty quickly. I’m not shy from letting you know if a source is good, bad or shady. With that said, I wouldn’t use 90-95% of the sponsors on asf and that can be said for about almost every other forum I’ve ever been on. You just have to read the sub forums on paid sponsor boards and threads about certain sources on boards like here. Never rely on someone’s word. I’ve seen first hand how easily and cheaply people can be bought.
The owners are supposed Ifbb pros. Custom told me he’s been friends with both since high school then tried lying and said he didn’t know them. I guess he ate to many Xanax ( I’m sure you know why I say that lol) and forgot he posted a story about them from when they were 17 years old that she confirmed true.
Custom also told me about 6 months ago that they were selling the brand to him and he was taking it over. He told me he wanted me to be his meso rep for something ridiculous like $300 in product per month lol. I didn’t even bother getting into pay because I had no interest in the position but I figured I’d have a little fun so I told him I would consider but first I need to know more about the brand. Most importantly before he even came here I wanted the majority of the product tested if I was going to help him out. Lmao this is where it gets funny, he then told me maybe we will revisit this idea at a later date. I now know exactly why he didn’t want to do testing and wanted nothing to do with meso after that.
I’m almost positive they are selective scammers. He sent me a bottle of cyp that I gave to friend who was in need for trt. I told him I wasn’t sure about it but offered it to him along witg some tested product to help him out. He ran the cyp from pra first and pulled what he should have on bloods. Now when I made my order I wanted to test I tried to do it as quietly as possible. I didn’t mention it to anyone and used my secondary e mail address to order. I forgot that custom had that e mail address from fantasy football already. Custom contacted me about 5 days later flipping out wanted to know why I didn’t let him know ahead of time I was ordering. That was the first red flag because the way he was acting it was so obvious he wanted me to let him know before I ordered so he could send me what he wanted. When I had the product and told him I was testing it that’s when he really lost his shit lol. Told me he doesn’t want me doing him the favor lol and theirs 27 other sources on asf pick one of them to test instead. I told him the order was already made with jano and his response was “great, your just going to cause me a huge headache” at that point I obviously knew something was up and boy was I right. I certainly didn’t expect the results I got however. I was thinking maybe he knew the exotic blends didn’t contain mtren or mast. I definitely didn’t think all 7 samples would come back terrible. I wish I would have placed a second order and told him I was going to test that one before hand before doing any testing. Just to see if what he sent me in the second order was quality.
@Jake long i won’t vouch for any source but I will tell you I’ve used a ton of gear church product and I’ve always been satisfied. I used him exclusively for about two years and had one issue that he went public with and handled properly. I stopped using him as much only because his lack of testing like every asf source. You’ll know what I mean if you just read the thread I posted “ why don’t we hold sources accountable”. I proposed more testing from everyone and basically got called an idiot, no need to because these are trusted asf sources lmao, put your money where your mouth is and do it yourself. The thread was extremely disappointing to say the least.
@Jake long to answer your other question I’ve seen two items tested by members that I can recall. @janoshik did the testing. I have one saved in my pictures because it’s from a batch of product I have.
Bulldog413
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Just as J said I also used GC exclusively for about 2 years. Always impressed. Only reason I stopped bc I got into home brewing my own compounds and blends.
Multislacking
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FWIW, GC posted about 9 tests recently and said he was sending in more. The few products I've used I've been very happy with.
MisterSuperGod
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If GC made that their SOP, they could set a new standard at ASF.
Sources with g2g's from reps and mods is a fine way to reel in the noobs, but eventually (hopefully) they'll smarten up and expect more from their unknown drug brewer that's selling them oil's they'll be injecting into their bodies.
Kudos to GC. i hope this is the beginning of something big for them and the forum.
Jake long
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Very interested in finding out how to do that for myself if you could give me a heads up that would be awesome
Jake long
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It seems like anytime you bring up testing the gear you get on your own over there they get all but hurt with throws up so many red flags its not even funny.
Mdrock98
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I got kicked off for bringing up testing. Crazy.
Mighty-mouse
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But you and I know the test results are only good to that 2,000 ml batch that was brewed and tested. Who knows what that other batch looks like? “But I used the same raws” I don’t care.
The source I use test every batch they brew then sends me the results. Labels the bottle what it tested at. So if it tested 258mg test cyp per ml that’s what’s on the bottle. (Pretty good way to keep batch’s toghether too)
What that means he don’t fucking sell anything till he gets his results back.
If for some reason he didn’t test it he lets me know before I purchase.
Edit
Still waiting on the MSG red tren
Jake long
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Get ahold of me man i need a source like that asap!
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