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Run it. Tell us how it goes, women tolerate progesterone better than testosterone anyways. Plus it'll thin the uteran wall, no babies while on it. Progesterone is the active hormone in non copper iud's
 
HolRog28 said:
I know that tren is 5x more androgenic and anabolic than test. However, I have found a few sources online where women have used it with great results and tolerated sides. I also read that it binds to female hormone receptors in simpler terms than test and should actually be chosen over test.

So my question is, are there any females here with experience in its use or men that have personal experience with a female that has used it.

Thanks!
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You have in many ways spiraled out of control... Your AAS usage is reckless, at best... Now it's tren? Fuck, primo, var and test. prop. weren't enough?

You were reckless by not testing your primo or anavar, and going with an UGL over pharma.. Now this...

As you know, I've provided a lot of help to you in private, trying to make you as safe as possible. This has just gone too far. I think your training must be lacking, as EVERY female I know has responded from var and test. prop., every one of them!

Is this REALLY worth it? Are you REALLY training as properly as you think you are? Is your diet REALLY in check? I doubt it, truly.

Please note, the sides are irreversible. When you have evolved into a hormonal/transgender nightmare, please remember I told you not to do this.
 
7 meals a day. Over 3200 calories. 3200 is my maintenance. And clean calories.

If it works like progesterone, I actually feel better with higher levels. It's when they drop and my estrogen is higher up that I'm pissed off. I shouldn't have to worry about babies anyways. :)
 
Wunderpus said:
You have in many ways spiraled out of control... Your AAS usage is reckless, at best... Now it's tren? Fuck, primo, var and test. prop. weren't enough?

You were reckless by not testing your primo or anavar, and going with an UGL over pharma.. Now this...

As you know, I've provided a lot of help to you in private, trying to make you as safe as possible. This has just gone too far. I think your training must be lacking, as EVERY female I know has responded from var and test. prop., every one of them!

Is this REALLY worth it? Are you REALLY training as properly as you think you are? Is your diet REALLY in check? I doubt it, truly.

Please note, the sides are irreversible. When you have evolved into a hormonal/transgender nightmare, please remember I told you not to do this.
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This is why I'm asking! I completely respect your thoughts an help and never meant any disrespect. This is why I'm not blindly following what this coach is telling me. I'm here to learn more, not be reckless. No, it would not be worth it.
 
And I am pleased with my results thus far. I really am and I'm patient. I know it's a marathon not a sprint. I haven't had any complaints over my results so far. My training is at its best. Again, I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to be ridiculous or out of control. I was legitimately trying to learn more.
 
HolRog28 said:
This is why I'm asking! I completely respect your thoughts an help and never meant any disrespect. This is why I'm not blindly following what this coach is telling me. I'm here to learn more, not be reckless. No, it would not be worth it.
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Then please, consider not using it. The more androgenic the compound it is, the more women should stay away. This is why primo, var and winny are suitable for you.

I'm struggling to understand what you're failing to achieve on your current cycle, that you believe tren can potentially provide?

Please be as detailed as possible with what your diet, training, etc. looks like, as well as your current drug protocol. Also, where you are today (body wise) and where you intend to be, and in what timeframe.
 
Winstrol: Anabolic/Androgenic: 320/30
Trenbolone: Anabolic/Androgenic: 500/500
Primobolan: Anabolic/Androgenic: 88/44
Testosterone: Anabolic/Androgenic: 100/100

As you can see, winstrol is about 30% as androgenic as testosterone. This is why it's safer for you. Some compounds have trouble binding to the receptors, which makes this more complicated. However, use this rating system as a base for deciding what compounds to use. The lower the second number is, the "safer" it is for you.
 
HolRog28 said:
7 meals a day. Over 3200 calories. 3200 is my maintenance. And clean calories.

If it works like progesterone, I actually feel better with higher levels. It's when they drop and my estrogen is higher up that I'm pissed off. I shouldn't have to worry about babies anyways. :)
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You should be eating over 3,200 I would say at least 4,500 calories a day... Maybe a little more.

I would not even try to run tren just to get a few more pounds in a few weeks, you probably won't get enough from it to get the sides you will. If you really want to put on some pounds carb load for that last few weeks. I know this is a steroid forum and I'm not saying don't run aas, but I would hate to see you turn into a man. Just be safe and ask tons of questions like you are, I have seen female bodybuilders screw themselves up fast. I am sure you don't want to have a beard and a mans jawline in a few years.
 
Absolutely. I am also trying to understand why she is pushing me into so many compounds. I know test was pushing it but I have honestly felt great on it. let me see if I can upload from fitness pal as I have had to track diet for my nutrition minor classes.
Basically carbs in every meal except dinner and my protein before bed.
Carbs consist of sweet potatoes, Ezekiel, brown rice, quinoa, oatmeal
Protein: eggs, mostly whites, chicken breast-lots of them, ground beef-lean
Fats: coconut oil, mufa, nuts, almond butter.
I try to stay away from shakes/bars unless I can't eat at the moment I'll use it to hold me over.

Training is (per my coach) one body part per day to exhaustion. Heavy sets, low reps (5-6), however I do throw in finishing sets of lighter weight until failure. Legs 2x a week. Cardio 3x a week, HIIT.
Test is EOD at 25mg
Primo E5D at 100mg

I'm 5'9 and pushing 190lbs. Profile pic is current. I can throw more up tonight. I'm trying to compete by June in WP.
 
HolRog28 said:
Absolutely. I am also trying to understand why she is pushing me into so many compounds. I know test was pushing it but I have honestly felt great on it. let me see if I can upload from fitness pal as I have had to track diet for my nutrition minor classes.
Basically carbs in every meal except dinner and my protein before bed.
Carbs consist of sweet potatoes, Ezekiel, brown rice, quinoa, oatmeal
Protein: eggs, mostly whites, chicken breast-lots of them, ground beef-lean
Fats: coconut oil, mufa, nuts, almond butter.
I try to stay away from shakes/bars unless I can't eat at the moment I'll use it to hold me over.

Training is (per my coach) one body part per day to exhaustion. Heavy sets, low reps (5-6), however I do throw in finishing sets of lighter weight until failure. Legs 2x a week. Cardio 3x a week, HIIT.
Test is EOD at 25mg
Primo E5D at 100mg

I'm 5'9 and pushing 190lbs. Profile pic is current. I can throw more up tonight. I'm trying to compete by June in WP.
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Diet looks good to me. I am SHOCKED by her pressuring to do so many drugs, it really makes me question her knowledge.

Also, failure training it great, but it's also hard on your body. I'm not a big believer in doing it for weeks straight, some do. Normally I'll do a week or two of failure, a week or two of drops, a week or two of tension/pause reps etc...
 
achilles87 said:
I don't like doing failure training in a bulk, but I'm a skinny guy naturally. It takes a lot for me to walk around at 230+.
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It can help if it's mixed in, but not a staple IMO. However, your coach should be tailoring it to what YOU'RE responding to. 9/10 people will respond best to variety, IMO, rather than just one method.
 
Wunderpus said:
It can help if it's mixed in, but not a staple IMO. However, your coach should be tailoring it to what YOU'RE responding to. 9/10 people will respond best to variety, IMO, rather than just one method.
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I agree with this, you won't respond the same way as say she would. It sounds like your coach is Boston loyd to me lol.

You have to remember no matter the gear it can take years to get some muscle development. I don't know what your goals are or f you are trying to hurry for a show, but if you don't feel like you're where you want to be take more time don't throw more gear at it.
 
I don't understand either...
I have responded well. Arm progress is at a year. I just hit 16"
She is pushing me for a show that I want to do.
I feel like how I train is working for me. I do switch things up, but, that's because I get bored.
 

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HolRog28 said:
I don't understand either...
I have responded well. Arm progress is at a year. I just hit 16"
She is pushing me for a show that I want to do.
I feel like how I train is working for me. I do switch things up, but, that's because I get bored.
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When's your show and what weight are you trying to be at?
 
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