Worst story you witnessed health wise of steroid users?

[RedSwingline]

Please tell me the difference taking a beta blocker while on blast and a beta blocker because you're geneticly inferior however thinks more drugs = instagram likes. Or ego since probably over weight pushing high doses. telling users on here to take blood pressure meds like it's candy is as toxic as 500mg is a blast do it pussy. You don't compete and it should be clear to users it's a marathon, not a blast. You're taking blood pressure meds without even winning a NPC, okey bro, you're a forum shill and sell blood meds at the local gym. Or they just look good on your blood work and the reflection in your mirror. @HB_22

Plot twist, you're witnessing forum shills competing for the worst health stories using ancillaries to mitage the worst sides of aas. This is what you don't know. Blood meds is not candy and not cool to be on for life because a couple blasts fucked you up or you can't piss abusing dht compounds.

Darwin is very disappointed to hear from you. His theory is on shaky ground.

 

[tuffie]

Nobody is stuck on bp meds for life, stop with your totally wrong conspiracy theories.

Also modern blood pressure medication has a low side effect profile. They increase life expectancy and can only be taken temporary in certain situations where the patient needs further bp adjustments.

As it was mentioned consult your doctor and dont listen to this bullshit.

You still cant even explain the reasons between telmisertain v metopololo v nebivolo. Low side effect profile lmao, yeah bruh, fuck with your heart and then it have withdrawls is the side effect. On and Off. Look at the old posts and you dont even see BP meds being pushed, UGL back in the day didnt push them like they have now for the past couple years. But its the new trend now and side effects are long term. Fucking with the heart and this guy doesnt even compete.

HRT/Anti-ageing clinics dont push blood meds lmao wtf

@DECLAN How old is your dad. And you're 25 ? on blood meds and havent won a NPC? Think about it for a second.

You dont want to take blood meds unless its for a LEGIT reason. If you take them long enough and drop a blood pressure med, your heart WILL have withdrawls. Its not a game. I believe the second or third post said it clearly.

People who take blood meds even post about "this made me fat, lazy, shitty"

They use everything under the sun thinking it helps them, taper off and handle the withdrawls and finally feel "normal" .

 

[Rido]

You still cant even explain the reasons between telmisertain v metopololo v nebivolo. Low side effect profile lmao, yeah bruh, fuck with your heart and then it have withdrawls is the side effect. On and Off. Look at the old posts and you dont even see BP meds being pushed, UGL back in the day didnt push them like they have now for the past couple years. But its the new trend now and side effects are long term. Fucking with the heart and this guy doesnt even compete.

Mainly beta blockers can't be stopped abruptly. The rest of it can

 

[clearheaded]

buddies dad died of heart attack or aneurysm @ 44 yo when we were young, was juicy although died doing cardio. pretty crazy as was a "health nut" and was leaning out and doing more cardio at the time, boom 1 and done....no do overs.

 

[DECLAN]

You still cant even explain the reasons between telmisertain v metopololo v nebivolo. Low side effect profile lmao, yeah bruh, fuck with your heart and then it have withdrawls is the side effect. On and Off. Look at the old posts and you dont even see BP meds being pushed, UGL back in the day didnt push them like they have now for the past couple years. But its the new trend now and side effects are long term. Fucking with the heart and this guy doesnt even compete.

HRT/Anti-ageing clinics dont push blood meds lmao wtf

@DECLAN How old is your dad. And you're 25 ? on blood meds and havent won a NPC? Think about it for a second.

You dont want to take blood meds unless its for a LEGIT reason. If you take them long enough and drop a blood pressure med, your heart WILL have withdrawls. Its not a game. I believe the second or third post said it clearly.

People who take blood meds even post about "this made me fat, lazy, shitty"

They use everything under the sun thinking it helps them, taper off and handle the withdrawls and finally feel "normal" .

Jesus christ, how do you find all these personal information?

25? NPC? My dad? What the fuck are you talking about son? I think you it's you who need your sanity meds.

Peace be with you.

 

[HB_22]

You still cant even explain the reasons between telmisertain v metopololo v nebivolo.

The reason? You mean the difference? The ones you mentioned are not even in the same drug class. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

Low side effect profile lmao, yeah bruh, fuck with your heart and then it have withdrawls is the side effect. On and Off. Look at the old posts and you dont even see BP meds being pushed, UGL back in the day didnt push them like they have now for the past couple years. But its the new trend now and side effects are long term. Fucking with the heart and this guy doesnt even compete.

You really need to read some medical papers and studies on most of the more "modern" blood pressure drugs that are prescribed nowadays. It feels like you are stuck in the 1970. These newer bp drugs dont mess with your heart, they improve your health. They increase your life expectancy, they lower your blood pressure to a healthy range with literally no side effects at all (taking too much of any drug will always lead to sides but the point with these bp meds is to take as little as you need and that's it).

Stop spreading your bullshit here.

 

[clearheaded]

cholesterol drugs are scarier I saw what Lipitor did to my dad and ZAPPED his brain, came back after he stopped but wow I thought he was going to die soon and loose his faculties, that was 10-12 years ago now. interestingly enough statins increase life expectancy but apparently its by less than a week on average..that being said its prob some skewed data vs double blind study over years.... funny part is he was a butter promoter since I was a kid and knew margarine was bullshit since it came out, turns out he was right even though didn't know WHY lol..

 

[MindlessWork]

Being more susceptible to colds and flu I found while on cycle, while bp has not been terribly elevated.

 

[buzzingonaas]

Arnold 75 years old
Coleman 59 years old
Dexter 53 years old
Columbu died at 78 years old
Zane 80 years old
Haney 64 years old
There are regular people that don't live that long.

these are also top bodybuilders with genetics set up to respond very well to gear. Hearing Jay cutler talk about his bloodwork when he was Mr Olympia and how it was perfect is surprising. Mine takes a hit on 500mg testosterone, so these guys were likely built for this. Imo not a great example to be compared to average or below average guys

 

[JuiceJohn]

these are also top bodybuilders with genetics set up to respond very well to gear. Hearing Jay cutler talk about his bloodwork when he was Mr Olympia and how it was perfect is surprising. Mine takes a hit on 500mg testosterone, so these guys were likely built for this. Imo not a great example to be compared to average or below average guys

Their longevity and overall health may not be solely because of their genetics.
Im not saying genetics don't play a big role, but they definitely don't guarantee a longer lifespan or perfect health.

 

[Nilatac]

these are also top bodybuilders with genetics set up to respond very well to gear. Hearing Jay cutler talk about his bloodwork when he was Mr Olympia and how it was perfect is surprising. Mine takes a hit on 500mg testosterone, so these guys were likely built for this. Imo not a great example to be compared to average or below average guys

Normal gym rat take maybe 15% of what those guys have taken. A normal guy usually don't past 1g or 1,5g and that is for 2 "blast" of 10-12 weeks in a year.
Top guys they are "blasting " year around plus diuretics before contest plus a much elevated body weight.
If those guys have lived until 60 and counting everyone should reach that age.
Plus I have seen that many guys take blood work periodically. If something show up you can adjust that and not be affected on long term.
A normal guy take some primo because now that's what is in fashion to take or some deca with some test. Usually 600-800 test with 600 deca or primo.Not the worst choice to made. A pro much more...

Steroids aren't the most evil thing you can do in your life that it will damage your health but everything has a price of course and each one should weight the benefits and consequences and choose what to do and what to take

 

[DECLAN]

I don't understand comparisons between people regarding longevity. People die young all the time from different causes whether its from genetic predisposition or lifestyle choices.

We all know some alcoholic person live till they're 60, smokers who are still smoking in their 80s and some health nuts who are still running at 90. Or the guys who croak at 40 for being overweight for decades, or people who suffer strokes because they party every weekend while pounding pizzas every meal.

People choose their own poisons, and whether you choose to inject some cow anabolics, down vodka or swallow that party pill; it is tough to gauge who will live longer.

 

[clearheaded]

naa its not a tough gauge, yes always outliers of smokers live to 90 but its not the norm... pretty straight forward. ever see a juice Monster in there 90s?

 

[DECLAN]

naa its not a tough gauge, yes always outliers of smokers live to 90 but its not the norm... pretty straight forward. ever see a juice Monster in there 90s?

You haven't been to japan then lol, they're slamming sake and smoking well into their old age.

I think it's been stablished that smaller people live longer, most 7 feet tall individuals don't live long after all.

Juice monsters like you say are still considered overweight even if they're carrying muscle.

Anyway, just my opinion.

 

[clearheaded]

forsure, why its important to compare population to population...

you see your sort of saying 2 things, 1 steroids are fine cause never know, 2 larger people die sooner.... which is it ? I feel your conflicted in what you tell yourself and reality that you know...

 

[DECLAN]

forsure, why its important to compare population to population...

you see your sort of saying 2 things, 1 steroids are fine cause never know, 2 larger people die sooner.... which is it ? I feel your conflicted in what you tell yourself and reality that you know...

I never said steroids are fine. I just said you pick your own poison, nobody amongst us here have the data to backup who would live longer.

End of the day, we are all users injecting exogenous hormones to attain different goals. Will we outlive the alcoholics, the opioid users, the couch potato or your average Joe? Who knows, unless you know that, then please do share.

 

[The-Optimist]

Back when I was desperate and game for anything like a lunatic, I bought Novorapid, whilst not having a physique that would justify insulin at all. I shot 11 ius and offset with what I thought was the correct amount of carbohydrate. I was wrong and an hour later, I began to nod off. I immediately ran down 4 flights of stairs to a vending machine only to realise I had no cash. I ran up to the local Tesco Express, withdrew cash and feverishly grabbed anything sugary. I was sweating bullets and shovelled everything into me like a man who hadn't eaten in a week. Within 10 minutes normal service was resumed.

 

[narta]

Competing is a legit lifestyle because you make money, thus you never come off doses of Test and other compounds in HIGH doses until the body says otherwise , for years.

The vast majority of competing bodybuilders makes zero money after expenses, just wishing they make it big before their bodies give out in the process.

And get off your high horse, we use tools in the toolbox to better our lives and our well being be it hormones, bp meds, statins, glp1 agonists etc. No one needs to be competing in order to be smart enough to have his bp within range in order top save his heart and kidneys. Dumbfuck purists like you are the ones in the grave sooner then they wish because they refuse to use the tools they have.

To the rest of the readers, just don't be like tuffie, be smarter live longer and consult your doctor.

 

[narta]

Will we outlive the alcoholics, the opioid users, the couch potato or your average Joe? Who knows, unless you know that, then please do share.

Either we like it or no, genetics is the main deciding factor in ones lifespan.

You have the health freak that watched his diet, exercised and didn't smoke dropping dead in his 60s and my wife's granddad that smoked like a chimney, ate whatever, fought two wars, had lead bullets in his body, drunk a few rivers dry and died in his 90s of old age.

So, if your genetics are average you will live probably the average lifespan, if you have shit genetics you will have a shorter life and great genetics will give you a long life. Surely PEDs will cut a few years short, as alcohol, smoking, bad diet etc, but they are not the main deciding factor.

 

[tuffie]

The vast majority of competing bodybuilders makes zero money after expenses, just wishing they make it big before their bodies give out in the process.

And get off your high horse, we use tools in the toolbox to better our lives and our well being be it hormones, bp meds, statins, glp1 agonists etc. No one needs to be competing in order to be smart enough to have his bp within range in order top save his heart and kidneys. Dumbfuck purists like you are the ones in the grave sooner then they wish because they refuse to use the tools they have.

To the rest of the readers, just don't be like tuffie, be smarter live longer and consult your doctor.

Alright, lets be clear. Please show me networth these bodybuilders, do YOUR research, they have youtube channels for a reason, they have podcasts for a reason, they push pre-workouts for a reason, they try and sign movie deals/ docs for a reason, dude stfu. fr.

Im sure they used blood meds later in there career. they didnt go pro/olympic taking blood meds after there first/second/third blast by listening to re-sellers/shills on meso.

Obese noobs taking tren and a couple other orals/oils going crazy now stuck on bloods, soon selling there account to these UGL or ghosting the account.

Take blood meds listening to shills on here will result on a re-post "i feel shitty cuz i blasted now stuck on blood meds" fuck outta here. 80% people take PEDS because there over weight. Or they legit get pharma because they are legit competitors and shined, and coaches will WANT to coach/sponser them.

semaglutide and these other GLP money scams are opening the doors. (to new accounts, noobs, accounts who will be the victims).

I hope the females dont fall victim. fuck these noob male shills.

for those researching, LESS is MORE.