Ditto other than some PIP, but that is a given often with other sources too.
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Like any other gear.
TaoPhD
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Yes and no. I have access to other sources but order from Pep. If I found something I didn't like I'd give him the chance to fix it. That is just me though.
I think this topic will continue to be polarizing and the votes will be split.
I think I would order with Pep again just because BB75 says not to!
workinghard89
New Member
I can only speak for myself. And that statement for me is untrue. I have gear from various sources. All good transactions.
But pep has been good. His gear is legit. And if given proper respect and time he'll do his best to rectify any situation. Of course this is only my experience.
Also it bothered me that some guys weren't willing to come forward with there experiences with pep out of fear that they would be flamed. But it is what it is
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Yes and no. I have access to other sources but order from Pep. If I found something I didn't like I'd give him the chance to fix it. That is just me though.
I think this topic will continue to be polarizing and the votes will be split.
I think I would order with Pep again just because BB75 says not to!
Fair enough
However workinghard I believe he has had plenty of time and still hasn't addressed the issues that have come up and when he did post his attitude was shit
workinghard89
New Member
Honestly I believe he's waiting for some of the heat to come down. And for some of the members to calm down.
But as far as his attitude... I think he's just human. The way some members attacked pep was just absurd.
Within an hour the whole situation was out of control.
Within 24 hours some members declared that pep was done.
Imo the whole thing could have been handled better by pep and by the community as a whole.
TaoPhD
New Member
Stomps,
No matter what I think, I think that anyone who comes on here and reads these threads should appreciate the fact you care enough to post your opinions with facts and a professional attitude. I applaud you sir.
Datman
New Member
Why does pep get on here and make these meaningless posts and not post any lab pics to ease the minds of his customers and former customers? My only conclusion is that he doesn't give a shit at all about any of his customers. Sure he has provided some people with great service, but he is disregarding peoples health and piece of mind, that is fucked up.
1forthegeeks
New Member
I am curious, if you were a lab, would you post pics?
I honestly wouldn't. Many guys are throwing out that it's not risky for them and all of that but in my opinion it is.
I believe that photos of equipment signifying a large scale operation would get more priority from LE than a couple of hand crimpers.
I understand the need for the board to know where the gear comes from, but honestly would photos of an autoclave make the floaters found irrelevant?
Hell, most major companies don't do public tours, so why would illegal ones?
I'm not saying it's right, obviously we all want to see behind the veil. I'm just saying if a brewer is as paranoid as I am, it wouldn't happen.
I honestly wouldn't. Many guys are throwing out that it's not risky for them and all of that but in my opinion it is.
I believe that photos of equipment signifying a large scale operation would get more priority from LE than a couple of hand crimpers.
I understand the need for the board to know where the gear comes from, but honestly would photos of an autoclave make the floaters found irrelevant?
Hell, most major companies don't do public tours, so why would illegal ones?
I'm not saying it's right, obviously we all want to see behind the veil. I'm just saying if a brewer is as paranoid as I am, it wouldn't happen.
Calzaghe
New Member
If he doesn't want to post pics then he should go spend some cash and be a sponsor (many boards out there for him). LE doesn't give 2 shits if a lab has an autoclave or not. They just care if he is dealing or not. You don't think LE monitors this board? Of course they do and they see who the top UGLs are by post count, reviews, etc just like every newbie coming on here can see.
I remember a while back in December you had this opinion. I was out of the country out of the time and Tap A Talk did not let me post.
If I was a lab. I would post pics. I would do it in a manner that did not give away any identifying information ( like my mail ). I'd avoid serial numbers or equipment brand. I'd also avoid wide area pics and just focus on the equipment. Kind of like Pics of my wife's tits vs her full body. I'd also ensure the camera had no gps feature enables and I'd strip all data.
If you look at Astro's pics, it's not indicative of a large scale operation. Rather a nice school lab setup.
Also no an autoclave won't prevent floaters or infections, shit you can have an autoclave and be too busy to use it just to get orders out.
However something like an autoclave is indicative of someone who has some money and love invested in the game. And this game takes time to figure out. From brewing, to powder sources to distribution.
In addition, I have said this in another thread and will repeat again, a pic is a concession from a source who is not in it for a quick 10k.
Mind you having good equipment won't keep you from fucking up and having an attitude problem.
Steps like labmax, good shipping and timely and polite customer service still need to be assessed.
Pics also have the added benefit of keeping a bad lab from easily coming back. I don't know about you but I have had 2 infections and 1 known issue of Underdosed gear so if i can prevent a loss of money and time I'll take it any day.
The public company touring example does not fly with me. There are disgusting slaughterhouses that don't show you what they do for obvious reasons. There are also humane farms that show you how they work. I buy humane and eat organic btw. I reward the company that is best for me and my health.
I by no means am being disrespectful. Your a nice guy. I like 14 the internet persona.
I think maybe your scared of losing sources is why your not more demanding of these sources ?
I told someone else, if this is your fear, go to thread Top forums created by me and go to those boards and you'll get the best sources out there without a referral.
luckyduck
Subscriber
Pep has been trying to crawl out of his grave with his shill accounts. Dealer you just covered him back up with dirt. Nice catch
1forthegeeks
New Member
I have enjoyed reading your point of view, and I honestly was looking for just that.
Loosing a source doesn't concern me. I run his gear because I get results and good service.
Even if you check out the bacteria culture thread Dr Jim mentioned that the level of bacteria present was not dangerous.
But again, it's my decision. Do I have other brands? Yes I do.
But which ugl is spotless???
Dealer, stomps, flenser, Kubrick, and a ton of others - all of you guys are amazing for conducting the experiments you do to give everyone the tools to make the best decision they can make with their bodies.
But meso should not be about bashing anyone that doesn't go with the majority.
The other labs will show their flaws soon and the bandwagon will be on to the next one that pops up.
I know many people opinions of me have changed over this, some even will call me a shill or worse. But honestly, I am just here to gather information and make my own decisions.
1 4 I have posted proof PEP is using fake accounts to boost his reputation on this thread within the last hour.
The people being jumped on are those who are suspect. I had BB69 jump on me when I first joined. Check one of my fist ever posts. Let's just sat that the name Dealer didn't help lol.
Over time I saw scam and crap labs exposed. I have been on here reading almost everyday almost every thread learning. I understand and in fact respect BB69 even with his craziness.
Now the bacteria post Jim commented on was excellent. But that does not excuse the fact that vs other sources PEP had a high amount of floaters amongst other issues. Do you see Astro have that issue ? The other labs I follow who have been around for years also have rare instances of this occurring. Pep has had the most in a short amount of time.
So the members asked for a setup pic and instead of an apology and some kind of pics we got belligerence , attitude and a bunch of fake accounts.
If you think that's good customer service.. I respectfully disagree.
In addition I am not sure who your other sources are but if you pick PEP over them then those sources are probably not very good and I encourage you to go to my other boards and see for yourself that pricing and quality is the same if not better.
1forthegeeks
New Member
I saw the post. The multiple handle thing is terrible.
I don't disagree with you. There may be a ton of great domestic sources. I will even take you up on tor challenge and check out other boards.
Maybe I'm silly for wishing that our board could host a few greats of its own.
Your a good dude dealer.
I don't disagree with you. There may be a ton of great domestic sources. I will even take you up on tor challenge and check out other boards.
Maybe I'm silly for wishing that our board could host a few greats of its own.
Your a good dude dealer.
I think we all hope for that
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