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Is your buddy a competitive athlete? Otherwise, who the hell tests their T/E ratio.

Unless you're talking about testosterone/estrogen and not testosterone/epitestosterone.

But if that's the case, an 8/1 ratio means nothing; a completely natural person with 500ng/dl serum testosterone could pop some letrozole and have a >20:1 ratio easily.

Yeah he competes, so it was a testosterone/epitestosterone ratio. I should have specified that his "protocol" meant when he was going to cease dosing each compound. He cut the prop out 3 weeks before the test, which should have given him ample time to pass. Dumb decision on his part not finding a more reliable source, but he did purchase stuff from PEP when they were still in decently good standing. And I'm not sure how dosing letro would alter T/E ratios so drastically – unless, of course, you're referring to a test/estro ratio.
 
Yeah he competes, so it was a testosterone/epitestosterone ratio. I should have specified that his "protocol" meant when he was going to cease dosing each compound. He cut the prop out 3 weeks before the test, which should have given him ample time to pass. Dumb decision on his part not finding a more reliable source, but he did purchase stuff from PEP when they were still in decently good standing. And I'm not sure how dosing letro would alter T/E ratios so drastically – unless, of course, you're referring to a test/estro ratio.
Gotcha. Did he get caught? Or did he discover the elevated T:E during private "pre-testing"?
 
im actually convinced the guy might be TRYING to poison people n ok we'll let the thread die but this should be marker for the weather cus this guy is a charlatan of the WORST kind!
 
The 1st week of running peps gear (after not bein on cycle for 2 years) I had some giant lumps form under my nips and it was a shitty cycle....

I gotta agree please die thread!!!!
 
What did it say?
he wrote a long letter - i will get a screen shot and the original envelope for record. he sent under the last name "gutierrez" and it was saying that he has people everywhere and people will be hiding out with a snipe ready to get a head shot. there was an investigation but so fars nothing.
 
he wrote a long letter - i will get a screen shot and the original envelope for record. he sent under the last name "gutierrez" and it was saying that he has people everywhere and people will be hiding out with a snipe ready to get a head shot. there was an investigation but so fars nothing.


The next time someone starts whining that we don't give sources a chance and we're too mean, let Pep's psychotic behavior serve as prime example for why it's necessary to grill sources right into the ground.
 
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