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PEP I am glad you stepped up and took responsibility. There for a second I thought astro was posting. Last night I wanted to rip your head off, today not so much.

I don't want you to fail as a source. I know when you start small and grow to be a big source it gets difficult.

I was a source in the late 90s and early 2000s. I didn't sell steroids or drugs. However what I was selling I created and was illegal. At the time I was very small and then became the biggest source on the east coast.

The FCC and other organizations were always breathing down my back.Couldn't trust no one help me keep up with demand. I was expanding as a business, but it was still just me doing all of the leg work.

PEP you said you would send me 2 vials of sust as a replacement. I don't want them. However The credit for those two sust vials I want you to give that credit to TAO!!!

TAO still believes in you and loves your product. And TAO has helped me out big time since I have been on this forum. Tao does not run sust. You take care of TAO with no floaters in his gear and send it out tomorrow. Me and you are square.

I will wait for your response PEP......



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luckyduck said:
PEP I am glad you stepped up and took responsibility. There for a second I thought astro was posting. Last night I wanted to rip your head off, today not so much.

I don't want you to fail as a source. I know when you start small and grow to be a big source it gets difficult.

I was a source in the late 90s and early 2000s. I didn't sell steroids or drugs. However what I was selling I created and was illegal. At the time I was very small and then became the biggest source on the east coast.

The FCC and other organizations were always breathing down my back.Couldn't trust no one help me keep up with demand. I was expanding as a business, but it was still just me doing all of the leg work.

PEP you said you would send me 2 vials of sust as a replacement. I don't want them. However The credit for those two sust vials I want you to give that credit to TAO!!!

TAO still believes in you and loves your product. And TAO has helped me out big time since I have been on this forum. Tao does not run sust. You take care of TAO with no floaters in his gear and send it out tomorrow. Me and you are square.

I will wait for your response PEP......



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Duck,

I appreciate what you are sayong but Pep and I are good. If Pep does what he is promising then I am sated. You and I are friends and I know you are looking out for me duck and I appreciate it.
 
I know me and you are good. Me and pep are not good. Call it a early Christmas gift from me. It will take you Tao to make me and pep good. So man up and take the credit.

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TaoPhD said:
Thays a pretty interesting read CS.
I think this was an isolated incident. Well this and Spyders filmy susbstance. Taking into account what CS and Ben said, I personally am going to stick with Pep.
This is in no way meant to diminish what Duck is saying either. Duck and I PM alot and he is my boy. I think Pep is sincere tbough intrting to fix it unlike another source who keeps blaming other people.
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Ill be placing an order with PEP today or tomorrow.
Thanks Duck
Goose
 
luckyduck said:
I was a source in the late 90s and early 2000s. I didn't sell steroids or drugs. However what I was selling I created and was illegal. At the time I was very small and then became the biggest source on the east coast.
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Alright now I'm really curious...


but happy to see things have sort of worked out, mistakes happen, we're only human (if that, haha). And congrats to tao [|)]
 
People in my camp just pmd me to post up a high resolution of the floater as I said I would earlier. I will dig out my good ebay camera and really get in there and probably will take the floater out of the vial to see what it is made of. To see if it bounces ((rubber))) or see if my dog wants to play with it. That will be later tonight.

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Im glad duck is checking his vials as we all should. As PEP said no problem with him posting it as a warning in case it becomes an epidemic. To my knowledge this is the first floater complaint. PEP did the right thing by offering replacement plus one. If duck was uncomfortable with that vial he could simply pitch it or I would personally just filter it. No lab is perfect and I will continue to use pep. Having said that lets let cooler heads prevail here. Nobody needs to yell or flame
Anyone else. These boards are for reading and discussion and education. We were all taught a lesson to check our gear. PEP was taught to double check his procedures. This got out of hand fellas and could have been handled much more calml
 
luckyduck said:
People in my camp just pmd me to post up a high resolution of the floater as I said I would earlier. I will dig out my good ebay camera and really get in there and probably will take the floater out of the vial to see what it is made of. To see if it bounces ((rubber))) or see if my dog wants to play with it. That will be later tonight.

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I think the hi res pics are a good idea. At the very least, it can be used as a tool so people can see what to look for. Maybe we can discover what it is so that way the problem can be rectified. And, ducks dog will have a new chew toy!
 
Kane.d3 said:
Im glad duck is checking his vials as we all should. As PEP said no problem with him posting it as a warning in case it becomes an epidemic. To my knowledge this is the first floater complaint. PEP did the right thing by offering replacement plus one. If duck was uncomfortable with that vial he could simply pitch it or I would personally just filter it. No lab is perfect and I will continue to use pep. Having said that lets let cooler heads prevail here. Nobody needs to yell or flame

Anyone else. These boards are for reading and discussion and education. We were all taught a lesson to check our gear. PEP was taught to double check his procedures. This got out of hand fellas and could have been handled much more calml
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I'm w Kane...nothing good ever comes from people getting upset & saying things they regret. I think Lucky did good w making us all aware of the fact that nobodies perfect. We all get too use to everything being g2g all the time. Always gotta be careful. And, I think PEP did a good job w trying to make it right & take care of not only prob one of his best customers but also one of us. I commend both of you! And to Tao...Merry Christmas & good looking out as well.
 
Kane.d3 said:
Im glad duck is checking his vials as we all should. As PEP said no problem with him posting it as a warning in case it becomes an epidemic. To my knowledge this is the first floater complaint. PEP did the right thing by offering replacement plus one. If duck was uncomfortable with that vial he could simply pitch it or I would personally just filter it. No lab is perfect and I will continue to use pep. Having said that lets let cooler heads prevail here. Nobody needs to yell or flame
Anyone else. These boards are for reading and discussion and education. We were all taught a lesson to check our gear. PEP was taught to double check his procedures. This got out of hand fellas and could have been handled much more calml
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I was calm!!!!!!! I want to thank BB for the help on this matter and coming through yet again with great posts. His posts really calmed me down and let me step back from the situation.Lets now see if PEP comes through with replacement/ 4Tao.

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luckyduck said:
I was calm!!!!!!! I want to thank BB for the help on this matter and coming through yet again with great posts. His posts really calmed me down and let me step back from the situation.Lets now see if PEP comes through with replacement/ 4Tao.

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I wasn't directing that at you Lucky. I was just meaning in general...I gotten mad before & said things I regret. I wish I could, but I couldn't take it back. It was a general comment...not at you. Just to be clear.
 
Ironman1980 said:
I wasn't directing that at you Lucky. I was just meaning in general...I gotten mad before & said things I regret. I wish I could, but I couldn't take it back. It was a general comment...not at you. Just to be clear.
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I knew what you ment. I was just joking around. I am German, Irish. I can be a bit of a hot head sometimes. Yes calm and cool always win.

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luckyduck said:
I was calm!!!!!!! I want to thank BB for the help on this matter and coming through yet again with great posts. His posts really calmed me down and let me step back from the situation.Lets now see if PEP comes through with replacement/ 4Tao.

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Alright duck,

Pep and I are squaring away your christmas present to me. He and I have talked about it and it's being worked out. I don't like posting up pics of what I order but in this instance I will. Thank you duck and should you change your mind before I order I'll be totally ok with it.
 
Ironman1980 said:
I'm w Kane...nothing good ever comes from people getting upset & saying things they regret. I think Lucky did good w making us all aware of the fact that nobodies perfect. We all get too use to everything being g2g all the time. Always gotta be careful. And, I think PEP did a good job w trying to make it right & take care of not only prob one of his best customers but also one of us. I commend both of you! And to Tao...Merry Christmas & good looking out as well.
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Thank you ironman.
 
Kane.d3 said:
Im glad duck is checking his vials as we all should. As PEP said no problem with him posting it as a warning in case it becomes an epidemic. To my knowledge this is the first floater complaint. PEP did the right thing by offering replacement plus one. If duck was uncomfortable with that vial he could simply pitch it or I would personally just filter it. No lab is perfect and I will continue to use pep. Having said that lets let cooler heads prevail here. Nobody needs to yell or flame
Anyone else. These boards are for reading and discussion and education. We were all taught a lesson to check our gear. PEP was taught to double check his procedures. This got out of hand fellas and could have been handled much more calml
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Hey Kane,
I dig the vibe of what you posted but in this case I feel like everyone was pretty level headed. There may have been some minor flaming but it wasn't really all that bad and even some of it was apologized for later on. As far as duck goez, we all handle things in certain ways and duck did go to another respected member before putting it out in public.
I definitely agree several lessons were learned though. Anyway just my .02.
 
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