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[1forthegeeks]

I have sat back on this one, but I can't stand to see you guys attacking Duck for standing up and saying his piece.

What the hell is wrong with you guys?

He did exactly what he was supposed to do. He was upset, because that situation didn't meet his expectations of the brand.

We all know the risks, but hell, how many times have you gone postal because of a shortcoming in a business interaction. Whether it be a food item, retail experience, or piece of hardware.

Lucky is an honest dude, and if we keep putting down our members for being real Meso will be just like all of the other boards that censor the bad and sticky the good.

 

[stomps]

I have sat back on this one, but I can't stand to see you guys attacking Duck for standing up and saying his piece.

What the hell is wrong with you guys?

He did exactly what he was supposed to do. He was upset, because that situation didn't meet his expectations of the brand.

We all know the risks, but hell, how many times have you gone postal because of a shortcoming in a business interaction. Whether it be a food item, retail experience, or piece of hardware.

Lucky is an honest dude, and if we keep putting down our members for being real Meso will be just like all of the other boards that censor the bad and sticky the good.

Agreed duck did the right thing.
He is concerned for the well being of all the meso member from noobs to vets.
Glad to have you hear duck

 

[TaoPhD]

I have sat back on this one, but I can't stand to see you guys attacking Duck for standing up and saying his piece.

What the hell is wrong with you guys?

He did exactly what he was supposed to do. He was upset, because that situation didn't meet his expectations of the brand.

We all know the risks, but hell, how many times have you gone postal because of a shortcoming in a business interaction. Whether it be a food item, retail experience, or piece of hardware.

Lucky is an honest dude, and if we keep putting down our members for being real Meso will be just like all of the other boards that censor the bad and sticky the good.

Geek,

I think part of this is that everyone would handle it in a certain way. Sometimes I think we all forget that just because someone doesn't think like us doesn't make them wrong. I completely agree with you about Duck. He is honest. He did consult through PM as well.
Guys,
Please keep in mind we are all individuals and we all doing things in our own unique way. We may not agree with how one person does things but we should respect them

 

[1forthegeeks]

Geek,

I think part of this is that everyone would handle it in a certain way. Sometimes I think we all forget that just because someone doesn't think like us doesn't make them wrong. I completely agree with you about Duck. He is honest. He did consult through PM as well.
Guys,
Please keep in mind we are all individuals and we all doing things in our own unique way. We may not agree with how one person does things but we should respect them

Exactly!

I'm a chill dude, I understand both sides. I will continue to use Pep, I gave my ex several chances so Pep can have one too !

But seriously, there's enough beef on the board already, let's not break up the brotherhood over an issue we did not cause.

 

[luckyduck]

People like me and Spyder that has posted about dirty gear helps PEP out in the end. It is more of a check and balance. The user puts the source in check and then the source has to balance out and fix the problem. If we never posted there would not be that and pep could wind up like herc.

I think pep will fix the problem. I still believe pep is a good person, i just hope he doesnt get the god complex from all of his supporters. I hope he stays humble, because in the end all of his supporters is his free advertisement and helps him sale more.

 

[TaoPhD]

People like me and Spyder that has posted about dirty gear helps PEP out in the end. It is more of a check and balance. The user puts the source in check and then the source has to balance out and fix the problem. If we never posted there would not be that and pep could wind up like herc.

I think pep will fix the problem. I still believe pep is a good person, i just hope he doesnt get the god complex from all of his supporters. I hope he stays humble, because in the end all of his supporters is his free advertisement and helps him sale more.

Man you know there will always be the naysayers. You and Spyder did the right thing. Don't let them get you down. I still hope you post the hi res pics brother. :thumbup:

 

[luckyduck]

I am not sure if other members care what it is. And at this point i feel like i am beating a dead horse. Feels like this is getting dragged out and i dont like that.

 

[TaoPhD]

I am not sure if other members care what it is. And at this point i feel like i am beating a dead horse. Feels like this is getting dragged out and i dont like that.

I'm guessing there are more people besides myself that want to know. It's your call bro. Either way you've done a service to us.

 

[luckyduck]

I however would love to see a pic of PEPs lab. Especially since Astro showed a pic of his lab. And Tao i think you stated this earlier also if i am not mistaken.

 

[1forthegeeks]

I however would love to see a pic of PEPs lab. Especially since Astro showed a pic of his lab. And Tao i think you stated this earlier also if i am not mistaken.

My curiosity would also love to see his lab...

But if I were Pep, there's absolutely no way I would post anything relating to my workspace.

A picture says sooo much, location, size, type of building, type of equipment.

It's a bad idea if your in it for the long haul.

 

[TaoPhD]

I however would love to see a pic of PEPs lab. Especially since Astro showed a pic of his lab. And Tao i think you stated this earlier also if i am not mistaken.

I said I thought having more insight into Peps process might help. I'm not sure what proper decorum is as it relates to the actual lab stuff and puctures. Maybe Pep could clarify some of his processes?

 

[MassTurk]

I would not use a ugl unless I understood the downs that comes with it . Again I'm not trying to offend but I know by using anything other than pharma grade I am taking a risk ... Most unsterile gear might not even have a floater it's just the way it is. If I understand what the risk I'm taking I may not use or spend more to get things coming out of real Laboratories with
Actual sterile environment. No free pass to any ugl we have the right to weed them out , with your own words you did not want him to go out of business you just did not want to continue doing business with him. Which I completely agree. I just pointed out the decision was made to take that risk when you used the ugl . Again I only disagree with the expectations not he actions at the end . That's why I appologized in advance not to be offensive .

 

[luckyduck]

You can not appologize in advance and not to be offensive. That would like me telling my wife. Baby i need to tell you something but i want to appologize in advance that i might be offensive. You are getting really fat and should loose some weight before i start screwing my secretary at the office. Now now you cant get mad because i told you in advance. Does not hold up that well in court either.

 

[MassTurk]

If I stated anything inaccurate please enlighten me , otherwise still my apologies

 

[luckyduck]

I gave you a LIKE!!! You will not get a LOVE from me Turk. I was just playing around with ya. [)]

 

[MassTurk]

I hate finding things that doesn't belong in a vile. I just know it might happen,
duck you are a class act for not hating to disagree.

 

[loveyourbody]

No one is giving pep a free pass. We are not mad or giving lucky a hard time for posting about what he found in his vial. We are just stating a few facts about ugl.

 

[Candyskull]

I would not use a ugl unless I understood the downs that comes with it . Again I'm not trying to offend but I know by using anything other than pharma grade I am taking a risk ... Most unsterile gear might not even have a floater it's just the way it is. If I understand what the risk I'm taking I may not use or spend more to get things coming out of real Laboratories with
Actual sterile environment. No free pass to any ugl we have the right to weed them out , with your own words you did not want him to go out of business you just did not want to continue doing business with him. Which I completely agree. I just pointed out the decision was made to take that risk when you used the ugl . Again I only disagree with the expectations not he actions at the end . That's why I appologized in advance not to be offensive .

It's not just UGL. You need to be careful of anything you're using. The link I posted earlier was an internal Phizer PDF that they generated due to FDA complains because their visual contamination in their injectables was over 6% of the lots inspected.

6%!

 

[BR1217]

It's not just UGL. You need to be careful of anything you're using. The link I posted earlier was an internal Phizer PDF that they generated due to FDA complains because their visual contamination in their injectables was over 6% of the lots inspected.

6%!

Agreed, I have actually had Pfizer Depot Test that crashed at room temperature, had to heat the vile every time I needed to do an injection.

 

[bickel29]

I am not sure if other members care what it is. And at this point i feel like i am beating a dead horse. Feels like this is getting dragged out and i dont like that.

Well Duck, at this point it is not about dragging it out as much as it is about following through on what you said you would do. There are now members who are expecting to hear/see the results on this. I could be wrong but I believe that PEP himself would be put at ease to know.

Also, if you now do not complete this step, there is room for people reading this to say "oh, I see, PEP paid him off to keep this off of the board". Folks may question your motives behind it.

For the record, I will not draw any conclusion(s) from the above one way or another. I will say, though, as someone who has no skin in the game, that I will be quite surprised if this floater is not a piece of the rubber stopper. Maybe I am giving PEP too much credit?

Do whatcha wanna do, Duck. Just my two pennies.