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[luckyduck]

I don't think PEP had to, necessarily, be rushed or hurried to have something in a vial.

You guys would be shocked to know how often fiber particulate is contained in vials. I believe the fiber particulate to be filter related because I have found it in even the most respected of UGL's. Biologic has put out gear with fiber. (once) Biologic put out gear which crashed. (once)

For that matter, even pharmaceutical companies go through recalls and contamination issues. Humans make these products, and they don't call it "human error" without a reason. If you guys want gear that has a 0% chance of being contaminated you're in for a rude awakening because such a thing doesn't exist. PERIOD. (fungal meningitis...what?)

All sources mitigate the risk of contamination to varying degrees. Obviously, the IDEAL situation, if sterility is of the utmost importance to you, is to buy legitimate pharmaceutical grade products. If you go with a UGL, the risk IMMEDIATELY jumps exponentially. If you've made the decision to go with a UGL, and you have a brain, this should be obvious to you.

I've read several pages of this debate, but I haven't seen any pictures of the particulate. Are we sure it isn't just crashed gear? Has the vial been warmed/shaken?

Hey stretch.. Hope all is going well at Bio.. I just put the vial in a ziplock bag and heated and shook. Little bastard is still in there.

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[incrediblebulk]

@ stretch much respect for you posting in this thread for the competition. Obviously you have been in this game longer than a lot of us and on sides of it we will never see. Thanks for posting your thoughts man. Your opinion is much appreciated. Hopefully this kills some of the critics.

 

[TaoPhD]

Yeah I looked at it now.

Certainly can't say for sure that it ISN'T the stopper. From the pics, it definitely looks possible. I don't really understand how a stopper, which hasn't been stabbed, drops a small piece of itself into the vial. And I've crimped thousands of vials. I think more than likely the rubber stopper is just a convenient thing for sources to blame particulate on.

That's my real opinion. The stopper thing is 99% bullshit IME. Unless you've been stabbing the vial, then stopper material can contaminate the oil.

I'm just saying, you guys are dreaming if you think you're going to find a UGL that can put out 50,000 PERFECT vials in a row. Not biologic. Not astro. Not pep. Not hulk, or naps, or GeTm either....NO ONE. Mistakes will be made. Any source who suggests otherwise is full of shit.

I'm not sure if you guys caught the Fungal Meningitis reference, but Pharmaceutical companies make mistakes too. Where you get into problems is when you get into multiple reports of contaminates, or where a pattern is established.

Again, good looking out brother. Thank you

 

[Purge]

Anyway, where do you get one of these filters yall keep talking about???

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[TaoPhD]

Getpinz

Which one? I have no idea:what:

 

[luckyduck]

Ok I am working on this vial. I am trying to suck it out with a 25 gauge and it is too big to be sucked up. 25 is all I have. I need some suggestions now on getting it out..

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[luckyduck]

Anything?? Nothing?? My dog is wagging his tail he is ready to chew on it..

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[1forthegeeks]

Pull the stopper duck

 

[1forthegeeks]

I like to use a corkscrew for it, just be careful.

Stretch probably has a more efficient method.

 

[TaoPhD]

Pull the stopper duck

Duck has soke meaty dickbeaters so it might be difficult. What tool could he use

 

[1forthegeeks]

Duck has soke meaty dickbeaters so it might be difficult. What tool could he use

Tao!

Nothing in that sentence sounded right hahahaha!

 

[1forthegeeks]

Duck has soke meaty dickbeaters so it might be difficult. What tool could he use

The tip of the corkscrew can help break the foil then the screw insert halfway into the stopper.

Then pull slowly.

 

[luckyduck]

Maybe needletaodickpliers lol

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[flenser]

Maybe run the oil though a coffee filter to see if there are any smaller particles. Ones that would have fit in a needle?

 

[luckyduck]

I know what I need for this job. I need my biggest tool in my shed. Where is Tao??

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[luckyduck]

Needles nose pliers are working. I will have it out in a few.

Ok PEP if you do not want me show pics of this floating thing. Wire one Milli no one billion dollars to my account. And tip Tao one dollar.

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[luckyduck]

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Ok Pep 500,000 buys the floater pic!!!

 

[TaoPhD]

I know what I need for this job. I need my biggest tool in my shed. Where is Tao??

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No no, you gave the biggest tool award out yesterday Duck! If I was there then we'd both sit there like a couple tards trying to figure it out. I say tannerite that mofo

 

[luckyduck]

Ok pep 100,000 buys the floater pic!!!


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[TaoPhD]

Thanks Johnnyballz for agreeing that I'm a big tool. I'm now officially crushed. ..