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Get off his dick you piece of shit.
Good Lord man,you can come here and pretty much say as you please and I for one truly support that but Geez many of us just dont wanna come around and be subjected to that kind of venom. Although I support your right to speak your mind!!
You really hate this spot so badly and it moves you to such a level of angst?
Heck if I felt that way about a place I might consider looking for a spot where I'd find myself in similar company.
I wish I could help with a suggestion as to where that might be but admittedly I dont know of a place that would best accommodate your "get off his dick you piece of shit" mentality. I stay here as I really enjoy the level of intellect and thought -provoking discourse to be found at Meso
Ill look around for you..Maybe there is a board which broadcasts from beneath a freeway overpass somewhere in the sewer!!!
Will be in touch(thats a figure of speech as Id rather NOT touch you!)
Good Day!
Goose
 
Peps one post on the issue was truly flattering but he didn't address the dirty gear. If he keeps brushing it off like nothing is gonna happen, it's a problem. "I'll still be here wether you like it or not." T how about.."sorry guys. I don't know what happened. I'll be closed until I get this figured out. You will all be taken care of." We want you to figure it out or get the fuck out. One or the other. Your defensive"it's pointless to post. Fuck you, I'm staying" post was childish and showed your true colors.

One more thing... I shot 1ml of your TEST E, that's right 1ml, and have had a golfball sized lump for a week. That sucks.
 
You've been around the block, you want what's best for the guys here, why not lead them to a proper source?

It's so easy to lump the up and comers together, but where is the diamond in the rough?

We have so many vets standing up to dismantle any source that comes our way, but there isn't a single one introducing a brand that is worth our while.

The introduction to sources that aren't swinging their dicks out for all to see comes in time. Each one of us has to put in work. Has to put in the time to get to know people. It doesn't happen all at once. It couldn't.
Tao....since being here at meso and having your status bumped has a door or 2 opened up for you? Can the same be said for guys you know?
 
Peps one post on the issue was truly flattering but he didn't address the dirty gear. If he keeps brushing it off like nothing is gonna happen, it's a problem. "I'll still be here wether you like it or not." T how about.."sorry guys. I don't know what happened. I'll be closed until I get this figured out. You will all be taken care of." We want you to figure it out or get the fuck out. One or the other. Your defensive"it's pointless to post. Fuck you, I'm staying" post was childish and showed your true colors.

One more thing... I shot 1ml of your TEST E, that's right 1ml, and have had a golfball sized lump for a week. That sucks.

That does suck and his saying that shit was fucking stupid. How many times have we heard that lab will be here no matter what happens now and forever?
Plenty of times is the answer. At some point the growling in their stomach overpowers their little pride and they move the fuck on.
 
The introduction to sources that aren't swinging their dicks out for all to see comes in time. Each one of us has to put in work. Has to put in the time to get to know people. It doesn't happen all at once. It couldn't.
Tao....since being here at meso and having your status bumped has a door or 2 opened up for you? Can the same be said for guys you know?

Yes BB69, it has. I can concur with that. I think that is one thing that has been echoed to several members. People say to newly joined members to read and contribute and doors open. I can honestly say that Ben is correct and a few doors have opened to me that were previously inaccessible.
 
I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a moment...

It is definitely well documented now that there have been issues with floaters, past and present. The first issue was mostly stoppers (IDK what Spyders was). After the initial beat down, steps were taken and the issue was addressed. I believe the same thing will happen with this current issue.

I think it is hard sometimes for us to remember that this isn't some big slow moving establishment like Walmart. It is a small establishment run by one human who has feelings. Does he have a right to be embarrassed by what happened? Yes. Does he have a right to be angry and some of the commentary here as well? Yes. Is it an excuse for him not fix this for everyone's well being? No.

I am with 1-4 on this. I'd rather deal with the one I know then deal with the one I can't define. Me personally, I'm going to wait to see how Pep and MPR act once the initial smoke clears from the blast.

Yes I have alot of gear from Pep, not one floater. I also have gear from Bio and Naps. I have been supportive of him just like I was for Bio. I would rather give him the chance to correct this. Fortunately for us on this board, we have alot of people who closely inspect their gear. Paranoia is a good thing. Ok I'm done rambling.
 
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I understand your view and respect it, I just don't want someone new to inject gear with floaters in it and get an infection. There were a couple guys here that didn't know what floaters were. Im not saying another word until He puts pics of his lab up.

I tried to be nice and give pep a chance to post the pics of his labs and show us that his gear really is better than top pharma as he posted before:

Is this the first time we've dealt with a floater??? NO. But the last time i did we ran the numbers and my quality control worked out to be better than top pharmaceutical companies.



but:

Its really pointless for me to even post.... Those of you who want to hop on the pep bashing ban wagon, enjoy! I'll be here next week and next month and next year. I didn't get where I am now by acting like a little bitch and shutting down every time an issue popped up.

Im still open and im still here. You need so ething hit me up. If you hate me, then get it out of your system. Because im not going anywhere.

So pep refuses to fix his sterility issues and practically said for us to fuck ourselves because he isn't going anywhere and will continue to produce gear in un-sterile work conditions. Just warning the new guys to think twice about buying gear from this guy. Like it was said before, this is a buyers market, and if we want clean gear that won't kill us, we demand it, and it should be done. But we got our own fellow meso brothers defending this jerk. Pretty soon one of them is going to up in the ER from his gear.
 
After reading this all I can say is get the fuck lost. You are pathetic PEP! Even ppl that ride your dick on these forums claim they cant walk for a week after they inject your trash.
Dude, I can assure you I'm not PEP. Yeah, I know it looks suspicious with my 3 whole posts but everyone has to start somewhere. I inject in the glutes. I'm 300 pounds. Maybe that's why I'm lucky I don't have pip. But I am not PEP, and of course that last statement MUST be true because I said it on the internet ;)
 
I tried to be nice and give pep a chance to post the pics of his labs and show us that his gear really is better than top pharma as he posted before:





but:



So pep refuses to fix his sterility issues and practically said for us to fuck ourselves because he isn't going anywhere and will continue to produce gear in un-sterile work conditions. Just warning the new guys to think twice about buying gear from this guy. Like it was said before, this is a buyers market, and if we want clean gear that won't kill us, we demand it, and it should be done. But we got our own fellow meso brothers defending this jerk. Pretty soon one of them is going to up in the ER from his gear.

Look you keep harping on his comment about better than pharma. Last time, just as the time, I posted a Phizer internal PDF for finding corrective action about PHIZER'S FLOATER PROBLEM. Like, Phizer was failing both internal and 3rd party audits for visible particulate contamination in their injectable medication preparations to the tune of 6% of their inspected vials.

PEP said that last time he ran the numbers, he was beating pharma grade for reports of contamination %. That's it dude. He compared his number of issues to the number of issues a top pharmacy was recently having.

I completely agree that any vials with visible contamination SHOULD NEVER go out the door, but to think it's never going to happen? Well, that's just silly. The air is full of shit, and even in a clean room environment with what I'm assuming is a pretty bad ass laminar hood setup, Phizer had a significant issue. And their corrective action wasn't even to try and stop the contamination! It was to inspect their sealed vials better!

I'm not on PEPs dick, or the dick of ANY UGL here, but I'm curious as to what other people are expecting from a guy who is making illegal preparations in the kitchen of a rented house that a top national lab can't do? I know everyone wants clean shit, but you have to protect yourself with ANYONE.

Telling a source to GTFO is all well and good, but do you honestly think someone else isn't going to take his place? The demand hasn't vanished, just one guy filling it has. So we can kick PEP out instead of holding his feet to the fire and making him fix his shit, or we can let in someone else that has to be proven all over again who really is mixing in a toilet, but has a better inspection process.

"The best-known case of baby food tampering, however, is probably the Gerber glass scare of 1986. The Food and Drug Administration received about 140 reports of glass in Gerber baby food and, upon investigation, confirmed 21 cases of tampering, although they were likely the work of isolated individuals. The case is remarkable because it has become a case study for how not to handle a PR crisis. Rather than issue a recall of its products, as its competitor Beech-Nut had done only a week earlier when faced with a similar situation, Gerber seemed flippant and allowed its baby food to remain on store shelves. When Maryland banned Gerber peaches in response to the scare, Gerber sued the state, a move that made the company seem uncaring. Although Gerber has survived the damage to its reputation, and not issuing a recall may have been the financially prudent move, many still consider its response to the crisis unethical and a PR disaster." -Listverse

Why not use this as an opportunity to see what PEP has equipment wise, and find out a little more about how he's doing things, and what the problem could be, instead of just creating the same problem with someone else down the road, or having him come back reorganized with a different name in 6 months. Labels are cheap folks.

And before I get all the dick rider comments, I'd be saying this shit about any of the labs here or anywhere. Not because I like them, or have any stake in their success, but because I'm smart enough to realize that the devil you know is much better than the devil you don't.
 
Pep ; I mention this before it is growing pains. I believe your quality control suffered immensely when your business hit a very high Volume. It may be less than 1% of orders had problems but with the amount you are sending out 1% can mean enough unhappy customers to ruin your reputation . Why the pissy attitude? where instead you could Acknowledge the problem and work on fixing it. At least producing evidence to show you are using proper brewing and filtering equipment . Why not do it to save your business here ?? How can this be smart business practice ? Why let the alternative take over and flame you!!!! If you were doing right by us members here . Didn't we spend enough money to deserve an REAL explanation Instead of lashing out? Ball in your court, can you assure all this people with your product that they are safe to use? I don't see how you can say you will be here always without explaining the reasons for the Floaters....

Skull ; I have asked the samething yesterday to pep to come and respond , still waiting
 
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Skull ; I have asked the samething yesterday to pep to come and respond , still waiting

That's unfortunate for him. The lynch mob of the Internet moves mighty fast. Over on reddit I've watched careers ruined in less than a couple hours after rumors start. I still remember a time where you'd have to wait a day or two for a companies response in the paper, and that shit sure wasn't happening over a weekend. Times change, eh?
 
Lets face it, all PEP had to do was address the problem in a mature and professional manner and most likely this would be over. Read the single post he made in response to these recent issues....it is as bad as it can get IMO. PEP had these same issues in the past and handled it pretty well. As a result people still gave him their business. He refuses to post picture of his setup and refuses to answer questions about his sterilization processes. Numerous members have questioned him about this and he continues to ignore it. When the times got rough he disappeared. No one ever questioned the legitimacy of his product other than the shit floating around in the vials. Like many have said, all this guy had to do was hold his vials up to a light before sending them out and we wouldn't be talking about this. That goes to show the quality control this guy puts into his product.
 
I know this isn't the thread for this, but since this thread is on a train to hell anyways- Can anyone tell me about their personal experience with Ascendant? I need good prop!
 
Look you keep harping on his comment about better than pharma. Last time, just as the time, I posted a Phizer internal PDF for finding corrective action about PHIZER'S FLOATER PROBLEM. Like, Phizer was failing both internal and 3rd party audits for visible particulate contamination in their injectable medication preparations to the tune of 6% of their inspected vials.



PEP said that last time he ran the numbers, he was beating pharma grade for reports of contamination %. That's it dude. He compared his number of issues to the number of issues a top pharmacy was recently having.



I completely agree that any vials with visible contamination SHOULD NEVER go out the door, but to think it's never going to happen? Well, that's just silly. The air is full of shit, and even in a clean room environment with what I'm assuming is a pretty bad ass laminar hood setup, Phizer had a significant issue. And their corrective action wasn't even to try and stop the contamination! It was to inspect their sealed vials better!



I'm not on PEPs dick, or the dick of ANY UGL here, but I'm curious as to what other people are expecting from a guy who is making illegal preparations in the kitchen of a rented house that a top national lab can't do? I know everyone wants clean shit, but you have to protect yourself with ANYONE.



Telling a source to GTFO is all well and good, but do you honestly think someone else isn't going to take his place? The demand hasn't vanished, just one guy filling it has. So we can kick PEP out instead of holding his feet to the fire and making him fix his shit, or we can let in someone else that has to be proven all over again who really is mixing in a toilet, but has a better inspection process.



"The best-known case of baby food tampering, however, is probably the Gerber glass scare of 1986. The Food and Drug Administration received about 140 reports of glass in Gerber baby food and, upon investigation, confirmed 21 cases of tampering, although they were likely the work of isolated individuals. The case is remarkable because it has become a case study for how not to handle a PR crisis. Rather than issue a recall of its products, as its competitor Beech-Nut had done only a week earlier when faced with a similar situation, Gerber seemed flippant and allowed its baby food to remain on store shelves. When Maryland banned Gerber peaches in response to the scare, Gerber sued the state, a move that made the company seem uncaring. Although Gerber has survived the damage to its reputation, and not issuing a recall may have been the financially prudent move, many still consider its response to the crisis unethical and a PR disaster." -Listverse



Why not use this as an opportunity to see what PEP has equipment wise, and find out a little more about how he's doing things, and what the problem could be, instead of just creating the same problem with someone else down the road, or having him come back reorganized with a different name in 6 months. Labels are cheap folks.



And before I get all the dick rider comments, I'd be saying this shit about any of the labs here or anywhere. Not because I like them, or have any stake in their success, but because I'm smart enough to realize that the devil you know is much better than the devil you don't.


Yeah ! what this guy says ^^^^^ brilliant ! Now PEP show is your goodies !
 
Telling a source to GTFO is all well and good, but do you honestly think someone else isn't going to take his place? The demand hasn't vanished, just one guy filling it has. So we can kick PEP out instead of holding his feet to the fire and making him fix his shit, or we can let in someone else that has to be proven all over again who really is mixing in a toilet, but has a better inspection process.


Why not use this as an opportunity to see what PEP has equipment wise, and find out a little more about how he's doing things, and what the problem could be, instead of just creating the same problem with someone else down the road, or having him come back reorganized with a different name in 6 months. Labels are cheap folks.

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I think we held his feet to the fire but based on his post it seems he doesn't believe there is a problem that needs any attention.
His one post since all this looked like a giant middle finger to me.

I would love to know more about his brewing and what equipment he uses. Some pics maybe but like I said based on his post I don't think we will be seeing any of that.

Oh and for the record I don't think your a dick rider
 

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