you want a proof, here is a proof fake test

[mercury]

Erased underline and replace with Bolder#1, different font

HEK 239 cells are cells in liver, it is pathology test done on cells in liver.

And there is more that it is fake done in photo editor, you just need to know it how to read

fake or real

you want reliable results go to Simec and those guys are scamming you with fake reports

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Umm...

Isn’t this overlaying the sample against the known standard for gH? It literally says, in text, fig 2 is a chromatograph of gH expressed in human cells and fig 3 is the overlay of this against the sample tested shown in fig 1.

Also, fairly certain HEK cells are kidney...?

As for the underline; could be simply a typed in text entry vs autopopulated dates on the other lines (hence maintaining the underline).

Would be a great help if you were right but...this ain’t it IMO.

 

[janoshik]

Umm...

Isn’t this overlaying the sample against the known standard for gH? It literally says, in text, fig 2 is a chromatograph of gH expressed in human cells and fig 3 is the overlay of this against the sample tested shown in fig 1.

Also, fairly certain HEK cells are kidney...?

As for the underline; could be simply a typed in text entry vs autopopulated dates on the other lines (hence maintaining the underline).

Would be a great help if you were right but...this ain’t it IMO.

Standards are not made from HEK cells nevertheless and don't really have that lot #.

Somatropin (11.58 USP Somatropin Units/vial) (INTERNATIONAL COLD CHAIN SHIPMENT REQUIRED)


// I provided a fact which can be easily verified independently, even spoonfed the way of verification. Don't pull me into stupid shit.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Standards are not made from HEK cells nevertheless and don't really have that lot #.

Somatropin (11.58 USP Somatropin Units/vial) (INTERNATIONAL COLD CHAIN SHIPMENT REQUIRED)


// I provided a fact which can be easily verified independently, even spoonfed the way of verification. Don't pull me into stupid shit.

You are exceedingly good at providing marginal value to this community.

If you’ve got facts that either confirm or deny this accusation put them out there for the good of the community. What the fuck man. Don’t see me stopping posts on “first cycle, help” threads.

 

[mercury]

Umm...



Also, fairly certain HEK cells are kidney...?

thanks, yes you are right I was typing fast from head.

but it does not change anything, it is pathology test done on cells and retouched in photo editor. it is fake test report.

but don't make it to sound like defending scammers.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

thanks, yes you are right I was typing fast from head.

but it does not change anything, it pathology test done on cells and retouched in phot editor. it is fake

Ok but isn’t figure 1 the sample, figure 2 showing a graph of gH references from human cells, and figure 3 a comparison of the two?

 

[mercury]

Ok but isn’t figure 1 the sample, figure 2 showing a graph of gH references from human cells, and figure 3 a comparison of the two?

as Jano pointed it right you do not make reference, standard from human cells.

this game here been going on and it will never stop scammers will post fake test and bunch of supporters will give them thumbs up.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

as Jano pointed it right you do not make reference, standard from human cells.

this game here been going on and it will never stop scammers will post fake test and bunch of supports will give them thumbs up.

Im mistaken in my description.

Is figure 2 not a sample of human recombinant HGH expressed in HEK239 cells? In which case it absolutely would have a lot number and is not a human tissue sample.

 

[janoshik]

You are exceedingly good at providing marginal value to this community.

If you’ve got facts that either confirm or deny this accusation put them out there for the good of the community. What the fuck man. Don’t see me stopping posts on “first cycle, help” threads.

I leave it to members to put two and two together, because when I do that I get flamed into the oblivion. Not worth my time and effort.

 

[mercury]

Im mistaken in my description.

Is figure 2 not a sample of human recombinant HGH expressed in HEK239 cells? In which case it absolutely would have a lot number and is not a human tissue sample.

then what the fuck kidney cells do on report where HGH powder was supposed to be tested.

sorry I cannot spend all day to argue on this fake test.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

then what the fuck kidney cells do on report where HGH powder was supposed to be

sorry I cannot spend all day to argue on this fake test.

You made a fucking accusation, so fucking defend it. Coincidence the sample in the test is called Sigma?

 

[mercury]

Motherfucker you made an accusation so defend it.

do not talk this language, ignore

 

[Mac11wildcat]

do not talk this language, ignore

Ignore me. That’s cool. I make accusations I fail to defend against a dude who’s just my intelligent enough to interpret test reports and use google all the time.

@janoshik you came here voluntarily. your turn. See my last post. Or block me. Whatever works.

 

[TX_Hempknight]

As for the underline; could be simply a typed in text entry vs autopopulated dates on the other lines (hence maintaining the underline).

I have nothing to add on the test results, but as far as the underline text, I agree with you here. I work with Excel quite a bit, it could literally just be someone forgot to underline that cell when creating the sheet. happens all the time, not when I do it, but I see it regularly from other companies.

 

[janoshik]

Ignore me. That’s cool. I make accusations I fail to defend against a dude who’s just my intelligent enough to interpret test reports and use google all the time.

@janoshik you came here voluntarily. your turn. See my last post. Or block me. Whatever works.

My turn for what? Spoonfeeding?

If you have the slightest respect for my time and knowledge, ask direct questions. If not, I don't see why anything I would post would matter.

 

[mercury]

I have nothing to add on the test results, but as far as the underline text, I agree with you here. I work with Excel quite a bit

can you give example of lab report made in Excel and what company ?

Never seen personally it is usually secure PDF file, another clue when looking for fake results.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Alright. You two should be embarrassed. I’m an engineer; not a chemist, biologist, or magician and I figured this out. That means you two are fucking worthless.

AS I EXPECTED.

W&M reference (found in figure 2) for gH testing is Sigma-Aldrich hgh recombinant expressed in HEK 293. There goes your dumbass kidney cell/pathology theory. Not hard info to find by the way

Sample conveniently shown below.




Now what? Excel was simply a reference by another member in agreeing with me that a text entry field could mistakenly be left not formatted correctly unlike auto populated fields like dates. For completeness, any info WM can provide on how his reports are generated is appreciated. But the scientific basis for your claim is bullshit.

Come with something legit. This is hilarious. @Weights & Measures @opti @bolder

I haven’t even ordered Opti kits yet. I’m just a happy little Sherlock Fucking Holmes.

I also believe you two are the only ones who have called WM into question because he hasn’t given us a reason to doubt him. Unlike some other testing resources. Your move.

 

[TX_Hempknight]

can you give example of lab report made in Excel and what company ?

Never seen personally it is usually secure PDF file, another clue when looking for fake results.

Im going to take a cue from @janoshik ....Sigh....

Never stated I work with labs, I stated I work with excel quite a bit. I dont know the procedures these labs use or the programs used. I only suggested a reason for the missing underline. Which could still be the case for the program they used while running the lab report.

 

[Wunderpus]

Alright. You two should be embarrassed. I’m an engineer; not a chemist, biologist, or magician and I figured this out. That means you two are fucking worthless.

AS I EXPECTED.

W&M reference (found in figure 2) for gH testing is Sigma-Aldrich hgh recombinant expressed in HEK 293. There goes your dumbass kidney cell/pathology theory. Not hard info to find by the way

Sample conveniently shown below.
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View attachment 109066

Now what? Excel was simply a reference by another member in agreeing with me that a text entry field could mistakenly be left not formatted correctly unlike auto populated fields like dates. For completeness, any info WM can provide on how his reports are generated is appreciated. But the scientific basis for your claim is bullshit.

Come with something legit. This is hilarious. @Weights & Measures @opti @bolder

I haven’t even ordered Opti kits yet. I’m just a happy little Sherlock Fucking Holmes.

I also believe you two are the only ones who have called WM into question because he hasn’t given us a reason to doubt him. Unlike some other testing resources. Your move.

Eh, give Mercury a break. He's bored lately without pushing Labmax hard... He needs something else to do.

 

[janoshik]

Alright. You two should be embarrassed. I’m an engineer; not a chemist, biologist, or magician and I figured this out. That means you two are fucking worthless.

AS I EXPECTED.

W&M reference (found in figure 2) for gH testing is Sigma-Aldrich hgh recombinant expressed in HEK 293. There goes your dumbass kidney cell/pathology theory. Not hard info to find by the way

Sample conveniently shown below.
View attachment 109065

View attachment 109066

Now what? Excel was simply a reference by another member in agreeing with me that a text entry field could mistakenly be left not formatted correctly unlike auto populated fields like dates. For completeness, any info WM can provide on how his reports are generated is appreciated. But the scientific basis for your claim is bullshit.

Come with something legit. This is hilarious. @Weights & Measures @opti @bolder

I haven’t even ordered Opti kits yet. I’m just a happy little Sherlock Fucking Holmes.

I also believe you two are the only ones who have called WM into question because he hasn’t given us a reason to doubt him. Unlike some other testing resources. Your move.

Tough words.

You should be embarrassed about getting on a high horse when you ultimately don't know jack shit.

Also mind that my point is entirely different different than that of Mercury, but ultimately leading to the same conclusion. Don't fall for fallacy that when you disprove his arguments you disprove mine as well.

1. It's not a reference standard. Reference standard is not just anything that contains the said chemical, but it has to fulfill specific requirements.

2. If you imply I don't know what Sigma is, go fuck yourself. There's picture of a real reference GH standard purchased through them with my name on it somewhere here on this forum.

3. HGH form HEK cells appears when you search HGH on Sigmas search engine on a very convenient first spot. Something you'd choose if you knew very little about naming conventions. Real standards come up when you look up Somatropin.



4. Why would anybody purchase HEK expressed GH "standard" if REAL standards costs less than that (EU Ph. cca. 4 mg) or just a little more (USP cca. 4 mg)?

5. Now, if you take a good fucking look at the Sigma's page for HEK HGH you notice it's godfuckingdamn 10 micrograms.

6. Now take a look at the report, where the peak for the sample ( 4 mg GH ) and the "standard" ( 0.01 mg ) don't look that different. Kinda weird for a linear relationship isn't it? Or are you going to imply that the sample was dissolved in at the very least half a liter of water?


Who's fucking worthless now, Mr. Engineer?

Congratulations on figuring that shit out smart guy.

Now insult my intelligence again, I dare you. What's your response, if you can comprehend these simple facts?