you want a proof, here is a proof fake test

[Seattle23]

Lol, just don't ask me to do it.

Guess @janoshik will have to find someone else to spoon feed him his job.

 

[movingiron88]

Oh God shoot me now. I feel like I'm back in the PGA thread.

@mercury @janoshik @Doug_S all the same guy or all inbred and genetically related.

 

[janoshik]

Lol, just don't ask me to do it.

No worries, just thought you'd find entertainment around here.

 

[JJ14]

O

 

[JJ14]

Who cares about this hgh testing. Everybody knows each individual vial can be different and the vial that was tested isnt ths one out of your kit. Just get you IGF tested. I've tested jintropin and did igf first 5 vials then tested next 5 vials and numbers dropped. You hgh guys should know better. If I have a consistent igf score of 500 and then I go again and drops to 200 some idiots will say it's just how you reacted and that hgh was tested previously and came back label claim 10iu. Which one would you believe the mass spec test or your bloodwork.

 

[Doug_S]

Oh God shoot me now. I feel like I'm back in the PGA thread.

@mercury @janoshik @Doug_S all the same guy or all inbred and genetically related.

I'm sure your SAT scores were the stuff of legend....

 

[bolder]

If you don't think me calling out questionable data is being an asset, then I don't know what is. Would you care to explain what could I do other than pointing out discrepancies that only I can notice at first sight, due to hundreds of hours of experience with exactly that kind of tests?

Because I don't see how calling out this shit is good for me or my business, having to deal with retards that will waste my time with bullshit and not address my actual arguments at all. Hell, that's the reason why I didn't post about this shit the second I saw those GH reports.

I'm tired of retards that have nothing else to do than jerk themselves off because they can join the witch hunt on an internet forum, giving their life a meaning and a pat on the back from "vets." And you have to admit that's what some of the loudest haters on me are.

On the other hand spreading awareness about discrepancy in data is good for people here, so they can be wary of something being wrong. So, what exactly is like a vendetta about that?

Please, explain it to me like I'm five.

You only ‘called out’ questionable data after @mercury mentioned it. If you seen this questionable data why did you wait to comment/post about it after he did? Why not come forth as soon as you seen something of question?
Yes. I can tell you what you can do other than pointing out discrepancies and that’s having facts to support it.
You should know that the average member doesn’t know or have experiences like you do in this field and should have facts to prove your point. If you are just pointing something out then very few will know what you mean unless it’s basic knowledge.

If you are holding back info that can help this community because of the back and forth with ‘retards’ that wastes your time with bullshit and not address your actual arguments then you’re not helping anyone at all. The only reason that you get the backlash that you do is because of your past actions due to falsely saying you tested something when you didn’t! This is your fault and is why you get the ‘retard’ treatment. So you really can’t say you don’t care what members/people think because you do if it’s keeping you from pointing things out as soon as you see it!

Again, the witch hunt you’re speaking of is because these ‘retard’ members that join in don’t want to give you a second chance and view anything you say as being ‘credible’. Again, they have just read threads where you have fucked up and admitted to it. That’s where it’s coming from, so you have no one else to blame for how you are being responded to around here but yourself.
To conclude on your response post, that pointing out discrepancies in data is good for people here then I agree, but facts are needed to prove your points.
The vendetta vibe is from doing things you do just to cause drama or arguing among members and yourself. Then you can boast about how much more intelligent you are than them and make others try to look dumb so you will look smarter. If you’re are trying to really help then you should except from your past that members will try to discredit you but if you have actual facts to prove your points then how could they?

It’s all bullshit other than facts. Look at it like this....
If you were a lawyer and went to court to prove your case then you wouldn’t just point out discrepancies but also have facts supporting your case to show the jury. You’d also try to make your points to where the jury would understand it and leave no questions to doubt.
There you go, the short answer to your response lol. Maybe not simply enough for a 5 yr old to understand but I’m sure it’s understandable to a 10yr old lol. Hopefully you’re over 10yrs old and can understand it!

 

[janoshik]

You only ‘called out’ questionable data after @mercury mentioned it. If you seen this questionable data why did you wait to comment/post about it after he did? Why not come forth as soon as you seen something of question?

I needed a trigger. It really is quite exhausting to do so and in my experience it really is better to wait, until questionable stuff piles up.

Yes. I can tell you what you can do other than pointing out discrepancies and that’s having facts to support it.
You should know that the average member doesn’t know or have experiences like you do in this field and should have facts to prove your point. If you are just pointing something out then very few will know what you mean unless it’s basic knowledge.

I'm trying my best to provide reasoning behind my logic and explanations to stuff that can't be expected of average members to know. I have never acted uppity because somebody didn't know something unless somebody antagonized me before.

I, however, realize that I can make huge improvements here.

If you are holding back info that can help this community because of the back and forth with ‘retards’ that wastes your time with bullshit and not address your actual arguments then you’re not helping anyone at all. The only reason that you get the backlash that you do is because of your past actions due to falsely saying you tested something when you didn’t! This is your fault and is why you get the ‘retard’ treatment. So you really can’t say you don’t care what members/people think because you do if it’s keeping you from pointing things out as soon as you see it!

Here you are mistaken. I got that treatment even before that, solely because I disagreed (and was right) with the "vets" here.

Again, the witch hunt you’re speaking of is because these ‘retard’ members that join in don’t want to give you a second chance and view anything you say as being ‘credible’. Again, they have just read threads where you have fucked up and admitted to it. That’s where it’s coming from, so you have no one else to blame for how you are being responded to around here but yourself.

I agree I've fucked up, but who didn't over the years.

I know of very few people who have actually done stuff worth mentioning and didn't screw up. Also, see above.

To conclude on your response post, that pointing out discrepancies in data is good for people here then I agree, but facts are needed to prove your points.
The vendetta vibe is from doing things you do just to cause drama or arguing among members and yourself. Then you can boast about how much more intelligent you are than them and make others try to look dumb so you will look smarter. If you’re are trying to really help then you should except from your past that members will try to discredit you but if you have actual facts to prove your points then how could they?

Exactly.

It’s all bullshit other than facts. Look at it like this....
If you were a lawyer and went to court to prove your case then you wouldn’t just point out discrepancies but also have facts supporting your case to show the jury. You’d also try to make your points to where the jury would understand it and leave no questions to doubt.
There you go, the short answer to your response lol. Maybe not simply enough for a 5 yr old to understand but I’m sure it’s understandable to a 10yr old lol. Hopefully you’re over 10yrs old and can understand it!

Good, that's what I'm trying to do.


Thank you for your extensive response, appreciate that. I'll try to make improvements based on what you have written.

Have a good day.

 

[movingiron88]

Go fuck yourself @janoshik

 

[mercury]

You only ‘called out’ questionable data after @mercury mentioned it. If you seen this questionable data why did you wait to comment/post about it after he did? Why not come forth as soon as you seen something of question?

Since Jano is competition here he is not in a good position to look at somebody else analysis.

On other hand I do not offer HPLC analysis here. But I am looking to setup anonymous sample checking, free of charge. Maybe 2-3 samples a month.

You send anonymously unmarked sample, I do not know what I am getting, where it comes from or who sends it. No questions asked, no answers given. And you will be welcomed to try it.

So we do not have people like Chem Clarity from UK, it took a long time to expose his scam testing.

 

[janoshik]

oh, yeah, Chem Clarity. Almost forgot about them.

The company that I called out for their science the first day they came here and claimed "Absolute rubbish. Don't trust these results", when even Millard applauded them at first.

 

[mercury]

oh, yeah, Chem Clarity. Almost forgot about them.

The company that I called out for their science the first day they came here and claimed "Absolute rubbish. Don't trust these results", when even Millard applauded them at first.

This only proves how easy it is to setup phony testing service and scam people.

If somebody tries to show that the results are faked, shills jump in to discredit you. He scammed hundreds of people before running away.

I talked to Chem Clarity he could not give any straight answer about testing, no clue about HPLC and people still thought that he was for real.

 

[master.on]

thanks, yes you are right I was typing fast from head.

but it does not change anything, it is pathology test done on cells and retouched in photo editor. it is fake test report.

but don't make it to sound like defending scammers.

This only proves how easy it is to setup phony testing service and scam people.

If somebody tries to show that the results are faked, shills jump in to discredit you. He scammed hundreds of people before running away.

I talked to Chem Clarity he could not give any straight answer about testing, no clue about HPLC and people still thought that he was for real.

1 Who actually faked the tests? @Weights & Measures or @janoshik ?
I'm confused at this point.

2 So he sends the customers samples for bloodwork-type tests, and does some math to compensate for dilution to get a concentration figure?

Because if he does, then you just need to inject 12 IU (4 mg) at once and see how much your serum (bloodwork) GH increases.
This study shows how much your GH and IGF-1 should rise after a 4 mg GH injection

so that dipshit @mercury shows up in a thread, spouting off a bunch of dumb bullshit, and you guys decided to argue with each other, instead of remembering all you have to do is remember that @mercury is nothing but a shill for labmax and is to be ignored. I can't figure out for the life of me what you guys are arguing about

While @mercury is a proven labmax shill, he knows chromatography best than anyone here, perhaps only second to @Analyzer (if he's still around with a different handle).