Ass to grass vs. Parallel squats

Excellent discussion! I just caught up on this thread today. What resources do you guys recommend for learning to improve mobility (for squat purposes)?


I use jump stretch bands to stretch my legs and they work very well. Just 3 times a week is plenty, I'm very flexible.
 
I wouldn't recommend teaching yourself. It's actually pretty complex, but if you have a coach and the humility it can be worth it. I didn't have humility, which is probably part of the reason I have messed up shoulders in the first place...
You don't think it's a good idea? I started practicing overhead squats recently in order to prepare myself to learn the snatch one day. I already do cleans but I really wanna learn the snatch. I definitely can't afford a coach though.
 
You don't think it's a good idea? I started practicing overhead squats recently in order to prepare myself to learn the snatch one day. I already do cleans but I really wanna learn the snatch. I definitely can't afford a coach though.
It's not preferable because there are so many critical aspects to proper form, you would need to video tape yourself and watch it after every rep to dissect technique. If you go to a powerlifting gym, or even a Crossfit gym ( IF its got good coaches.....), you can usually get 1 on 1 coaching. Yea it's still expensive, but for $100 bucks a month (more or less) you can get coaching and a good place to drop heavy ass rubber weights without breaking shit or gettin kicked out...

EDIT: But if you're gonna teach yourself, get REALLY comfortable sittin at the bottom of your overhead squat....
 
been using one since I started training Sil Lum little over 10 years ago.
Dynamic stretching pre workout and static post has always been my go-to routine

The way to do it for me is usually in the evening after I get out of a hot shower and am feeling relaxed. Go 70% sit 3-4 mins and focus on your breathing. Let some tension off take a few breaths crank it out to 75-80% and repeat, 3-4 mins and focus on posture and breathing. Let some tension out take a breathe and push it a little farther.

You are correct Sir, flexibility takes years to develop and requires constant maintenance and upkeep.

This is a yoga pose called the Pidgeon Pose...another winner
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And many people that say that they go ATG don't go much lower than parallel. Some go much deeper and it qualifies but unless you can Video your self or do it in a mirror it's hard to tell.

I tell my clients that I should be able to place a marble on their knee and it should roll into their hip. Would probably fall off but the gradient should be as such. Of course the smartest way to start squatting deep is to start with air squats and make sure you have the mobility.
 
Yea, not a big fan of snatches as I don't see the practicality in it, but there is something impressive about people picking up and throwing 400+ over their heads and then catching it and standing up... Insane.

Snatches and cleans are great for football players. I was watching college signing day the other day and Nick Saban of Alabama was talking about how he doesn't emphasize recruiting anybody based off highlight film as much as he bases recruitment off the power clean. I like the snatch and the power clean because of how violent of a movement they are. Which is good for coming out of any stance in football.
 
Excellent discussion! I just caught up on this thread today. What resources do you guys recommend for learning to improve mobility (for squat purposes)?


Some I've tried with success others I've heard about from PL friends:

1) foam rolling everything. I just purchased a rumble roller, the black one which is stiffer than the blue, and so far am in love with it. It really loosens up my upper and lower back, IT bands, hamstrings, glutes, etc. I also have mobility problems in my upper body which hampers my bench, OHP, squat grip, cleans, and more which I'm beginning to think is related to tricep, lat, and a few other muscles being tight. Using the foam roller on them has helped.

2) lacrosse ball or tennis ball to work out knots and relieve pressure from tension areas. I use it for my hips, glutes, hams, upper back, chest, etc.

3) car buffer. Same things as a lacrosse ball but with some perks lol.

4) yoga or Pilates

5) mobility WOD HAS SOME GOOD STUFF as well.

6) I also voodoo floss my knees as I get tendinitis there.

7) box squats can help. Start with a high box and gradually work down in height.

8) I also do the frog stretch I think it's called to loosen up my hips

9) air kicks or soldier kicks as a dynamic stretch for the glutes and hams

10) simply performing the weighted movement, squat in this case, will help keep mobility. At one point I squatted 3x a week and it kept me mobile enough that I didn't need too much mobility work.

11) buddy of mine uses a black stretch band to hang himself upside down by the hips from the mono or power rack. This is great for decompressing the hips.

There's a lot more I'm forgetting. Hopefully some of these other guys can chime in. Very smart guys in here so far.
 
Some I've tried with success others I've heard about from PL friends:

1) foam rolling everything. I just purchased a rumble roller, the black one which is stiffer than the blue, and so far am in love with it. It really loosens up my upper and lower back, IT bands, hamstrings, glutes, etc. I also have mobility problems in my upper body which hampers my bench, OHP, squat grip, cleans, and more which I'm beginning to think is related to tricep, lat, and a few other muscles being tight. Using the foam roller on them has helped.

2) lacrosse ball or tennis ball to work out knots and relieve pressure from tension areas. I use it for my hips, glutes, hams, upper back, chest, etc.

3) car buffer. Same things as a lacrosse ball but with some perks lol.

4) yoga or Pilates

5) mobility WOD HAS SOME GOOD STUFF as well.

6) I also voodoo floss my knees as I get tendinitis there.

7) box squats can help. Start with a high box and gradually work down in height.

8) I also do the frog stretch I think it's called to loosen up my hips

9) air kicks or soldier kicks as a dynamic stretch for the glutes and hams

10) simply performing the weighted movement, squat in this case, will help keep mobility. At one point I squatted 3x a week and it kept me mobile enough that I didn't need too much mobility work.

11) buddy of mine uses a black stretch band to hang himself upside down by the hips from the mono or power rack. This is great for decompressing the hips.

There's a lot more I'm forgetting. Hopefully some of these other guys can chime in. Very smart guys in here so far.

I use a tennis ball to "floss" my hams regularly, its quite the magic trick. I love it!
 
I love the wall squat for developing/maintaining good form and mobility. I start facing the wall w/ about 6-8" between my toes and the wall. I raise my hands up in a don't-shoot-me position and just squat down keeping my hands in very light but constant contact with the wall. Each rep I get in a little closer until the last few with my toes touching the wall.

I also like to take a wide sumo deadlift stance while holding a 25 lb plate up in front of my chest and squat down as deep as I can go. At the bottom I make small stretching shifts from front to back and side to side. If you have a tight spot, this will find it.
 
I remember when I had to out my ego away and restart. I thought I was the shit squatting 3 plates. Took a long time to really open the hips, I think a great exercise are box squats!
 
Some I've tried with success others I've heard about from PL friends:

1) foam rolling everything. I just purchased a rumble roller, the black one which is stiffer than the blue, and so far am in love with it. It really loosens up my upper and lower back, IT bands, hamstrings, glutes, etc. I also have mobility problems in my upper body which hampers my bench, OHP, squat grip, cleans, and more which I'm beginning to think is related to tricep, lat, and a few other muscles being tight. Using the foam roller on them has helped.

2) lacrosse ball or tennis ball to work out knots and relieve pressure from tension areas. I use it for my hips, glutes, hams, upper back, chest, etc.

3) car buffer. Same things as a lacrosse ball but with some perks lol.

4) yoga or Pilates

5) mobility WOD HAS SOME GOOD STUFF as well.

6) I also voodoo floss my knees as I get tendinitis there.

7) box squats can help. Start with a high box and gradually work down in height.

8) I also do the frog stretch I think it's called to loosen up my hips

9) air kicks or soldier kicks as a dynamic stretch for the glutes and hams

10) simply performing the weighted movement, squat in this case, will help keep mobility. At one point I squatted 3x a week and it kept me mobile enough that I didn't need too much mobility work.

11) buddy of mine uses a black stretch band to hang himself upside down by the hips from the mono or power rack. This is great for decompressing the hips.

There's a lot more I'm forgetting. Hopefully some of these other guys can chime in. Very smart guys in here so far.


Have you tried one of those Hang Up's? I was thinking about getting one but not sure how beneficial it will be.
 
Dammit! Tomorrow is leg day and you bastards have me convinced I need to do squats. I'm one of the few at my gym that does legs at all. I usually l do leg presses and hit all the machines. I don't mind squats, but it's always awkward unless I have someone coaching me on my stance.
 
Dammit! Tomorrow is leg day and you bastards have me convinced I need to do squats. I'm one of the few at my gym that does legs at all. I usually l do leg presses and hit all the machines. I don't mind squats, but it's always awkward unless I have someone coaching me on my stance.

Definitely do squats! Leg presses are not a substitute, start light and focus on form.
 
Thanks! Will do. I've been reading the posts and I'm just going to worry about going deep with good form tomorrow....even if I'm just pushing 135.

You can start with the wall squat and the static squat that I describe in my post above. Use these as a warmup before you ever put a bar across your shoulders. The wall squat is really good if you have a mirror that will show your side view as you squat down. Because it's a slow movement you can constantly check and correct your form up and down your stroke. Focus on proper alignment of all your body axes - toes pointed, knees out over toes, back straight, core tight - up and down like piston. There is absolute NO better exercise than the squat for overall body development and strength.
 
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