Don Long busted

[Mrhat39]

I wonder how much these labs profit a year? Can't be worth it, can it?

Bodybuilding is an expensive lifestyle, I think it usually starts out slow for most domestic guys.
First it's just making your own to save money. Then a few buddies, then there buddies. Then once you start trying to support a bigger gh habit, it just goes.
I have seen guys start slow, and it just grows into a business.
One thing that happens, and what gets most guys, is they don't have a way to clean up the money.
A friend of mine, knows a guy that runs an antique store.
Smart guy, he buys in cash, sells in cash, get the picture.
You can't just sell large amounts of anything. You have to create a alter business. Or you will be left explaining how you just purchased a sports car with no real job..

 

[Wunderpus]

Bodybuilding is an expensive lifestyle, I think it usually starts out slow for most domestic guys.
First it's just making your own to save money. Then a few buddies, then there buddies. Then once you start trying to support a bigger gh habit, it just goes.
I have seen guys start slow, and it just grows into a business.
One thing that happens, and what gets most guys, is they don't have a way to clean up the money.
A friend of mine, knows a guy that runs an antique store.
Smart guy, he buys in cash, sells in cash, get the picture.
You can't just sell large amounts of anything. You have to create a alter business. Or you will be left explaining how you just purchased a sports car with no real job..

Fuck man, I've thought about it with buddies. I have given them some homebrew either as a gift, or for a trade etc. But, it's been super low key, only very trusted friends and I don't label the shit at all. Don't get me wrong, if I could somehow justify buying - for example- Sero kits at ~$600, and flipping them for $750 in order to support my own GH usage, I would MAYBE think about it.... Seems like the feds go harder on AAS than GH and ancillaries.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Fuck man, I've thought about it with buddies. I have given them some homebrew either as a gift, or for a trade etc. But, it's been super low key, only very trusted friends and I don't label the shit at all. Don't get me wrong, if I could somehow justify buying - for example- Sero kits at ~$600, and flipping them for $750 in order to support my own GH usage, I would MAYBE think about it.... Seems like the feds go harder on AAS than GH and ancillaries.

WTF Pus? i thought we were cool?
i ain't never got no Christmas gifts from you.

That's it, you're off my Christmas card list.
No more season's greetings card with a picture of me and my dog wearing matching sweaters... The dog is gonna be heartbroken when i tell her this.

 

[Hotrods12]

They make good money, you can count on that, my buddy was very low key with what he did, made around 50,000 a year, paid for his house and his truck and his wifes car, just finally gave it up this year, now that he has kids not worth the risk anymore

 

[Wunderpus]

WTF Pus? i thought we were cool?
i ain't never got no Christmas gifts from you.

That's it, you're off my Christmas card list.
No more season's greetings card with a picture of me and my dog wearing matching sweaters... The dog is gonna be heartbroken when i tell her this.

 

[Mrhat39]

Fuck man, I've thought about it with buddies. I have given them some homebrew either as a gift, or for a trade etc. But, it's been super low key, only very trusted friends and I don't label the shit at all. Don't get me wrong, if I could somehow justify buying - for example- Sero kits at ~$600, and flipping them for $750 in order to support my own GH usage, I would MAYBE think about it.... Seems like the feds go harder on AAS than GH and ancillaries.

I am in agreement with you on this stuff.
I never sale anything either.
It's just not worth the added risk for me.
But if I was single, I would definitely be looking into all the options.

Hgh has a different kind of stigma to it, (if GH even has stigma, it's considered an anti-aging drug by the media) than steroids do. I don't think that a prosecutor would have the same kind of motivation with GH, as he would with aas.

 

[master.on]

20 years? Where did you get that info?

Conspiracy involves actively planning with others to possess or distribute a controlled substance, regardless of actual possession or delivery. This is typically the most serious type of drug accusation and usually involves multiple defendants and large quantities of drugs and can be extremely serious and complicated.

Did you even read the indictment. yes they obtained and defendants possessed a mixture and substance containing delectable amount of a controlled substance, that is, anabolic steroids.

I missed the money laundering part? Can you point that out for me?

mands

Any Amount Of Other Schedule III Drugs


First Offense: Not more than 10 yrs. If death or serious bodily injury, not more that 15 yrs. Fine not more than $500,000 if an individual, $2.5 million if not an individual.


Second Offense: Not more than 20 yrs. If death or serious injury, not more than 30 yrs. Fine not more than $1 million if an individual, $5 million if not an individual.
https://www.dea.gov/druginfo/ftp3.shtml

So I was wrong
20 years is for the 2nd offense
(only an idiot would continue to sell steroids)

Can you please post a link for the indictment or further info?

 

[Megadick3000]

I am in agreement with you on this stuff.
I never sale anything either.
It's just not worth the added risk for me.
But if I was single, I would definitely be looking into all the options.

Hgh has a different kind of stigma to it, (if GH even has stigma, it's considered an anti-aging drug by the media) than steroids do. I don't think that a prosecutor would have the same kind of motivation with GH, as he would with aas.

I dont fully understand GH legality. Here in Canada hgh is NOT on the Controlled drugs and substances act (CDSA), it is on the prescription drug list (PDL). Steroids on the otherhand are CDSA scheduled. But things like hgh, melanotan, and even salicylic acid at certain % concentrations are on the PDL. However the PDL is only relevant if something is sold for consumption, it says right in it that the PDL contents are prohibited only if used in a prepared drug (ie something intended to be used in a human). So technically here in Canada hgh could be sold for laboratory research applications the same as Melanotan-II is...

In the USA is hgh even listed as a scheduled drug?? I know steroids are, but does the schedule list hgh as well?

 

[mands]

Can you please post a link for the indictment or further info?

See Millard's PDF attachment above.

mands

 

[legendary]

Fuck man, I've thought about it with buddies. I have given them some homebrew either as a gift, or for a trade etc. But, it's been super low key, only very trusted friends and I don't label the shit at all. Don't get me wrong, if I could somehow justify buying - for example- Sero kits at ~$600, and flipping them for $750 in order to support my own GH usage, I would MAYBE think about it.... Seems like the feds go harder on AAS than GH and ancillaries.

What kind of trade u want buddy, friend ,pal???!

 

[master.on]

See Millard's PDF attachment above.

mands

Thanks
These morons did everything on plain sight
Do they think they are living in a parallel universe where gear wasn't ever banned, but the Internet already invented?
WTF?

 

[ronin17]

They make good money, you can count on that, my buddy was very low key with what he did, made around 50,000 a year, paid for his house and his truck and his wifes car, just finally gave it up this year, now that he has kids not worth the risk anymore

$50,000 isnt even worth considering for a second. It would have to be $500,000 to even be worth it. Fuck, why throw you life away for chicken scratch.

Fuck that dealing shit.

 

[Hotrods12]

$50,000 isnt even worth considering for a second. It would have to be $500,000 to even be worth it. Fuck, why throw you life away for chicken scratch.

Fuck that dealing shit.

That's still alot of money, He had a full time job, so this was all extra money and it gave him free gear for 6 years, when you come out in the end dealing with only your own circle of friends and profit 50k your still a head. Did he get caught no, is it worth the risk no, could he have went bigger yes but he didnt, he was happy with what he made and got out.

 

[mercury]

Thanks
These morons did everything on plain sight
Do they think they are living in a parallel universe where gear wasn't ever banned, but the Internet already invented?
WTF?

if these morons listen to you in the first place it would never happen.

but I am happy that we have somebody like you on board to enlighten us.

 

[master.on]

I dont fully understand GH legality. Here in Canada hgh is NOT on the Controlled drugs and substances act (CDSA), it is on the prescription drug list (PDL). Steroids on the otherhand are CDSA scheduled. But things like hgh, melanotan, and even salicylic acid at certain % concentrations are on the PDL. However the PDL is only relevant if something is sold for consumption, it says right in it that the PDL contents are prohibited only if used in a prepared drug (ie something intended to be used in a human). So technically here in Canada hgh could be sold for laboratory research applications the same as Melanotan-II is...

In the USA is hgh even listed as a scheduled drug?? I know steroids are, but does the schedule list hgh as well?

Not on the DEA orange book
but some 11 states or so made it illegal
If not there, getting TOP quality chinese GH and selling it mail order (no sales to 11 states) would be quite interesting.
Much more money to be made in GH than roids, and way less risk
but customers are less forgiving of mediocre quality products.

$50,000 isnt even worth considering for a second. It would have to be $500,000 to even be worth it. Fuck, why throw you life away for chicken scratch.

Fuck that dealing shit.

I thought he said $50k a MONTH
Fuck 50k a year for a 15 years term

That's still alot of money, He had a full time job, so this was all extra money and it gave him free gear for 6 years, when you come out in the end dealing with only your own circle of friends and profit 50k your still a head. Did he get caught no, is it worth the risk no, could he have went bigger yes but he didnt, he was happy with what he made and got out.

He was smart to get out
$50k/yr maybe only worth for GH or something where you only risk getting a FDA letter and not cops at 5 AM.

 

[Hotrods12]

Not on the DEA orange book
but some 11 states or so made it illegal
If not there, getting TOP quality chinese GH and selling it mail order (no sales to 11 states) would be quite interesting.
Much more money to be made in GH than roids, and way less risk
but customers are less forgiving of mediocre quality products.


I thought he said $50k a MONTH
Fuck 50k a year for a 15 years term


He was smart to get out
$50k/yr maybe only worth for GH or something where you only risk getting a FDA letter and not cops at 5 AM.

Yeah I know, we talked about the risk, on how much time he would get if he got caught, because he had to smuggle all the powder in from the states that came from china. Was it worth it, yes because he made money free gear and its all over and done with. If he got caught, fuck no, not enough money

 

[mercury]

Steroids do not kill but ingredients to make chemical weapons sold to Iraq and Syria in 1980s do, those guys (companies) were never busted.

Never heard anybody making car accident under influance of steroids but drunk