Dave Palumbo recommends High test 700mg+, lower anabolics

[Maj1979]

I've heard of dudes doing that high. The guy that got me into this is above 1000 mg a week not sure of everything else but he's huge. Just seems to me to be too much and I bet most will be converting a lot of it.
Deca is great for recovering on low dose.

 

[Docd187123]

so muscle weight, density and receptor amount, nitrogen requirements has nothing to do with dose? How about glycogen amount? Clearly someone with more mass and nutrient requirements to maintain or grow would require more compounds. So what you are saying is a dose for a 160lb man should be the same for a 280lb man? Obviously you have never been around any 300lb monsters and seen what and how much they take. Obviously there are exceptions to the rule but dont make the exceptions the norm. And someone gaining a bunch of estrogen water on 500mg of test isn’t muscle growth. I would like to know your reasoning for your statement and maybe I can learn something thanks.

Trukker worded it beautifully. It has to do with serum levels which are independent of weight. The further past your genetic potential you are the higher the dose you'll need to maintain or progress yes but it's due to requiring higher serum levels. This doesn't mean that just bc you're a larger person you'll need more than a smaller person bc as you noted, receptor amount and density do play a role. A larger individual with more receptors and a greater density would require a lower dose than a smaller person who might have less receptors and a lower density of them.

 

[Hotrods12]

I have run tren many different ways but yeah Dave hit the nail on the head with this one

 

[Maj1979]

700 is the highest I'll go until I get more cycles under my belt. I'll rise the risk with the knowledge. Until then this bro's going to play it safe. Next cycle still going to be test 500 tren 300. My only thing is finding ways to get cheap test kits for home use due to my travels for work pulling blood is a pain to schedule. And I need to start pulling blood mid cycle before I get crazy with it.

And @Docd187123. You're right about weight and size. All natural my boss is huge 6'5" and 300+ and just had his pulled and he's at 400 bear in mind tho he's got a good bit of fat but he's still a big man. And 400 it's that high.

 

[Maj1979]

Isn't* that high

 

[stone988]

Its interesting how we all react so differently to compounds and dosages and there are so many variables. I have even reacted differently to the same compounds slightly at different times on different cycles.

 

[Docd187123]

Its interesting how we all react so differently to compounds and dosages and there are so many variables. I have even reacted differently to the same compounds slightly at different times on different cycles.

If that is you in the avi pic then whatever it is you're doing, you're interacting "correctly" lol

 

[stone988]

yes thats me Ill post some more soon. and thanks

 

[LA_33]

The worst i ever felt was when i ran high tren and low test as advice i had gotten from here. I have never repeated that. Now its high test and a lil tren. I dont think folks respect tren enough
And every once in a while some dope on here brings up cruising on tren for a year straight. I mean for fuck sakes...

I really like this advice. In your opinion, what is a low to moderate Tren dose for great gains?

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I really like this advice. In your opinion, what is a low to moderate Tren dose for great gains?

I like 750-1000mg of test C/E and 100mg EOD of Tren A and maybe an oral to boot.
Tren A over Tren E every time because A is more a more aggressive ester and i dont like long Tren E cycles.
Ive ran alot of different doses and combinations and their are plenty of others that have been cycling longer but i have learned in the few tren cycles i have ran you dont fucking need all that damn tren. Test should be your dominating hormone
That sir is as they say, In My Opinion

 

[LA_33]

I like 750-1000mg of test C/E and 100mg EOD of Tren A and maybe an oral to boot.
Tren A over Tren E every time because A is more a more aggressive ester and i dont like long Tren E cycles.
Ive ran alot of different doses and combinations and their are plenty of others that have been cycling longer but i have learned in the few tren cycles i have ran you dont fucking need all that damn tren. Test should be your dominating hormone
That sir is as they say, In My Opinion

Thanks for the advice. I'm wanting to run 750mg test e with 50mg Tren ace eod. Bumping it up to 75mg and maybe 100mg eod if I can handle the sides.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Thanks for the advice. I'm wanting to run 750mg test e with 50mg Tren ace eod. Bumping it up to 75mg and maybe 100mg eod if I can handle the sides.

Run the least amount you need to get to where you want to go. Dont fall for the more is better mentality. Ive went that way too and its a waste of money. Lots of big dudes only use 2cc of test a week to get huge. And lots of big dudes run 1g or under of total gear used on a cycle. I like test high for alot of reasons but i could prolly get bye on just 2cc of test and some thing else. I dont have the best genes. I just like that GRAM soooo much.

 

[LA_33]

Run the least amount you need to get to where you want to go. Dont fall for the more is better mentality. Ive went that way too and its a waste of money. Lots of big dudes only use 2cc of test a week to get huge. And lots of big dudes run 1g or under of total gear used on a cycle. I like test high for alot of reasons but i could prolly get bye on just 2cc of test and some thing else. I dont have the best genes. I just like that GRAM soooo much.

I totally understand. My genes aren't the greatest either. 500mg works for me, but when I ran 750mg last cycle it was awesome!

 

[master.on]

This is the opposite of what I've always heard and thought I knew. He's a pretty smart dude but old school so I'm not sure if he's just stubborn and set in his ways. He talks about it at 9:45.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ChrOSmsvFy4

Palumbo = stuck in the 90s
back when gear was already illegal
but chinese raws weren't so readily available or widely known

 

[stone988]

Yea Dave is stuck in the 90's with Lee Haney, Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman shame on him lol