Sources on Mesorx

[XmadXscientist]

Are you just getting to know bigpaul? lol Debates with him are fruitless. He's okay when he stays off the booze and on the meds. Although, Trump has him in a big twisted fit of delusion, sober and medicated or not. Just stay clear of the Trump thread, haha.

I don’t know him personally. I don’t know anything about meds or booze as it relates to anyone on this this magic space communication ether that is the internet, so I try to keep such topics out of discussion and focus on how they articulate their thoughts/words.

 

[legendary]

Interesting to see this from you. If I remember correctly, in the past, you were someone that thought we were too hard on sources and dick riders. Correct? Like when you first joined.

And honestly we all start somewhere. What is important is how we finish. I feel I am not a pro but pretty knowledgeable and invested good amount of time here. And I'm not calling out names but for some vets to act the way they do over sources it's upsetting. I get new guys do over excitement and all that bs but long time members should know better. I feel it's a learning process. And if you don't learn and grow. Your part of the problem.

 

[insertnamehere]

Possible. But if I had to really recall it was cdn. And it wasn't the attack on the lab it was the actual attack on members for honest reviews.

Fair enough.

In your opinion, what do you consider an honest review? Meaning, what your criteria that must be met to fit that characterization?

 

[legendary]

Fair enough.

In your opinion, what do you consider an honest review? Meaning, what your criteria that must be met to fit that characterization?

A review is a review after you used, got bloods, survived. Grew. Not, ordered, got pack pinned and gained weight.

And also don't like seeing vets in one sources thread saying they aren't a shill but they are always there with something to say like it's their private chat room. And always on the sources dick.

 

[insertnamehere]

I don’t know him personally. I don’t know anything about meds or booze as it relates to anyone on this this magic space communication ether that is the internet, so I try to keep such topics out of discussion and focus on how they articulate their thoughts/words.

That's a commendable approach to discussion and it shows you possess intellectually integrity. I appreciate that and should follow your example.

I was just poking some fun at bigpaul, since I've had a few run-ins with his unpredictable nature. I wasn't sure what your experience has been to date.

 

[legendary]

@insertnamehere all in all I guess I'm just frustrated here and venting. like times changed. And the sources and shills have the upper hand.

 

[insertnamehere]

A review is a review after you used, got bloods, survived. Grew. Not, ordered, got pack pinned and gained weight.

And also don't like seeing vets in one sources thread saying they aren't a shill but they are always there with something to say like it's their private chat room. And always on the sources dick.

Whats your opinion on duration of membership as a metric to establish credibility when giving a review?

 

[XmadXscientist]

Fair enough.

In your opinion, what do you consider an honest review? Meaning, what your criteria that must be met to fit that characterization?

Review: Complete description of the process as it relates to these topics

Communication: Was the process seamless and the source able to convey clearly what was expected of you during the transaction and what was expected of them? Payment information clearly conveyed? Questions answered in 24hours? Patience exhibited throughout the transaction?

Payment: #1!!! No information revealed publicly by either party in this section!
Again, were payment instructions clear? Was the method easy for the customer to utilize? Processed in a timely manner? Transaction method safe?

Security: Does the source actually know how to play the game without shooting flares in the wrong direction? Secure email? Customer info saved? Packaging discreet and accounting for anything that could go wrong?

Shipping: Is it timely? Again safe and discreet? Items protected from making noise, leaking or breaking?

Product backing: Do they guarantee their services? If a mistake is made how is it handled?

Safety: Does the source have the required experience to produce a safe product and basic understanding of possible vectors for damage to their customers? Is their equipment up to date? Are basic sanitary/sterility practices employed?

This one thanks to @legendary

Results: Did it work? Bloods or product testing to prove? If not you better look like you use AAS or GTFO.

These are in no specific order and I’m sure there’s more, but that’s a good start.

 

[insertnamehere]

@insertnamehere all in all I guess I'm just frustrated here and venting. like times changed. And the sources and shills have the upper hand.

I know exactly what you mean. I as well as a few others saw this coming a while back but at the time it fell on deaf ears. Seems like people are ready for a change to reestablish equilibrium to favor the members.

 

[legendary]

Whats your opinion on duration of membership as a metric to establish credibility when giving a review?

Ok...... if I'm looking to make a serious purchase. I would first look in the testing. Look at bloods and analyzer. Then look in logs see if there are pics then cross reference to the ugl. But I also at times. For instance on a whim for the opening promo and no testing bought Sasquatch just for the price. So I truly just go on how I feel. I re-filter regardless of the lab. So yea sometimes I'm also a test bunny

Edit I also look for results. Not just words. Paperwork bloods, mg per ml ect. Not just the feel.

 

[Spooby]

I like you guys. You are the kind of people I could likely have endless conversations with @legendary @XmadXscientist @insertnamehere

 

[insertnamehere]

Review: Complete description of the process as it relates to these topics

Communication: Was the process seamless and the source able to convey clearly what was expected of you during the transaction and what was expected of them? Payment information clearly conveyed? Questions answered in 24hours? Patience exhibited throughout the transaction?

Payment: #1!!! No information revealed publicly by either party in this section!
Again, were payment instructions clear? Was the method easy for the customer to utilize? Processed in a timely manner? Transaction method safe?

Security: Does the source actually know how to play the game without shooting flares in the wrong direction? Secure email? Customer info saved? Packaging discreet and accounting for anything that could go wrong?

Shipping: Is it timely? Again safe and discreet? Items protected from making noise, leaking or breaking?

Product backing: Do they guarantee their services? If a mistake is made how is it handled?

Safety: Does the source have the required experience to produce a safe product and basic understanding of possible vectors for damage to their customers? Is their equipment up to date? Are basic sanitary/sterility practices employed?

This one thanks to @legendary

Results: Did it work? Bloods or product testing to prove? If not you better look like you use AAS or GTFO.

These are in no specific order and I’m sure there’s more, but that’s a good start.

Yep, it's definitely a good start.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I feel like members in general are getting soft on sources. I think we all want that one good 1. Too many people telling the source what he needs to do. People are giving sources more advice on security and brewing g and testing than to a newb and how to search for gear. We are a community and need to stick together as one. And yes there are a few members selling us out and they also need to be held accountable. Who is always sticking up for a lab? Who always is on a labs dick? Too much BS these past few weeks. Let's bring meso back to the members. Fuck these dick riding shills sucking dick for free gear to say the gear is good and fuck these fly by night I'm semi private labs. If your on a forum and it's here forever it's not private.

i'm "guilty" of suggesting to a couple sources that they offer an incentive to have their gear tested.

But i'd rather give them a push in the right direction, rather than have them trying to make behind the scenes deals with free gear in exchange for testing.

This way, testing stays as above board as we can get it, considering we have to have trust in the member(s) that legitimately purchase and randomly test the gear.

i'm pro source. It's nice to have sources here for the members to choose from. They just need to fly straight and narrow and the behind the scenes shenanigans needs to come to an end.

Yeah, yeah, wishful thinking. i know.

 

[legendary]

i'm "guilty" of suggesting to a couple sources that they offer an incentive to have their gear tested.

But i'd rather give them a push in the right direction, rather than have them trying to make behind the scenes deals with free gear in exchange for testing.

This way, testing stays as above board as we can get it, considering we have to have trust in the member(s) that legitimately purchase and randomly test the gear.

i'm pro source. It's nice to have sources here for the members to choose from. They just need to fly straight and narrow and the behind the scenes shenanigans needs to come to an end.

Yeah, yeah, wishful thinking. i know.

I also would rather push a source that would offer a credit for testing over one that doesn't. It's better for the buyer. It's different in doing that than it is to constantly push them to line your own pocket

 

[insertnamehere]

Ok...... if I'm looking to make a serious purchase. I would first look in the testing. Look at bloods and analyzer. Then look in logs see if there are pics then cross reference to the ugl. But I also at times. For instance on a whim for the opening promo and no testing bought Sasquatch just for the price. So I truly just go on how I feel. I re-filter regardless of the lab. So yea sometimes I'm also a test bunny

Edit I also look for results. Not just words. Paperwork bloods, mg per ml ect. Not just the feel.

What you wrote would be a good starting point for teaching members how to analyze a source prior to purchasing.

What I would like to know your opinion on is how do we determine the credibility of a review, even when it meets the criteria for an "honest review"? How do we know when to trust a review?

 

[D-max]

Biggest thing that annoys me about the source threads is they always turn into a junior high dick swinging contest to see who can post the most disgusting gaping ass pics, call people the most obscene names, etc.

It serves no purpose, and just makes a person look ignorant. I have teenagers that are more mature than the grown men here.

All it does is clutter up and bury useful information, and questions and answers are buried in the melee.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I also would rather push a source that would offer a credit for testing over one that doesn't. It's better for the buyer. It's different in doing that than it is to constantly push them to line your own pocket

No doubt. i hate the idea that we have some real pathetic mother fuckers in this place that will trade their dignity for a few vials.

Just the way it is, i guess. i just don't get why it's so hard for a source to be calm, cool and honest. Instead they opt to run deals through PM to fast track their success and hope it won't come back on them. Real stupid idea if they plan to gain the communities trust.

 

[Spooby]

I feel that given the nature of this game, and meso being a transparent, unmoderated board unlike the rest, it's somewhat our obligation, if we're all about safety, to let the inevitable happen here, rather than elsewhere. Let them source. We should discuss the most appropriate ways to vet these sources and make sure they're not fucking people over. If they're not on our board, they're on another board, like BoP doing who-knows-what behind the scenes. At least here we can talk out in the open about them and directly to them. Acting the way in which I've participated in in the past, and how many continue to treat the new sources, I've learned likely causes many more issues and contributes to bring the scenes actions because they see they cannot stay afloat out in the open with people acting like they're 17 and in high school, as @jaymaximus is saying. At least I think I'm accurate in this observation.

It's best to have them here rather than somewhere else... at least we can do what we feel compelled to do here involving the pursuit of knowledge of these sources and continued transparent monitoring of them. Please correct me if I'm wrong about anything. I don't like being incorrect.

 

[XmadXscientist]

i'm "guilty" of suggesting to a couple sources that they offer an incentive to have their gear tested.

There’s a difference in pushing a source to offer a credit to members who test their product anonymously vs offering free gear for reviews.

Oh by the way it cost 4-5$ to make a bottle of test e 300 when you’re not at the kilo level of raw stocking. Tren E 200 is about 12-15$ along with mast e. Bold is 7-8$ for 400mg/ml. 300mg/ml is about the same. Tren Ace 100mg/ml is also in that range. Orals are 5-10$ to produce a grams worth of caps. Aromasin is 10$ for the same. I could go on but this should paint a good picture of how much that 200-500$ people is profit, and these are the cost of you buy 100g increments.

Just trying to throw some transparency out there.

 

[Spooby]

Sorry I fixed ny spelling errors... it's late lol swype text is a bitch sometimes