Genotropin Pricing - pharmacy vs. street

[lilhawk]

I never said I didn’t get a Pump. Yes I do, it’s Rather Brutal Pumps. Read some of my comments Bro. I’ve changed workouts up to multiple muscles because I can’t do nowhere near as many sets as I usually do. I’m not gonna argue with you guys anymore on this. No, the Pen I have does not have a Script on it.

So if your pen doesn't have a script on it, then it never came from a US pharmacy. Any GH from a USA pharmacy will always come with a script on it. Geno pens will always have one, or they will come in a bag with multiple pens with a script on the bag. If your Geno is coming from Turkey I highly suspect it is fake. Also, I'm sure whoever you got it from kept it stored properly as well, yeah right. So, if in the chance it was a legitimate product, which Turkey is the land of counterfeits, then I doubt it is at full strength anyway. Anyone saying GH does not cause massive pumps, fullness, and roundness almost immediately either has generic GH, which is junk, fake pharma GH, or simply doesn't respond to it. It gives a full, round look that nothing else does. What is the point of using it if it doesn't cause dramatic changes in ones physique? Never claimed to be a guru about GH, but I have a lot of experience with it and have used Serostim, Humatrope, Genotropin, Saizen, Omnitrope, Norditropin, Nutropin AQ all straight from USA pharmacies with script on them. So I know what it does and does not do. Out of all of those I can say Serostim, Humatrope, and Nutropin AQ are my favorites.

 

[porky]

USA Saizen, yes.[/QUOTE

 

[Gaynz39]

So if your pen doesn't have a script on it, then it never came from a US pharmacy. Any GH from a USA pharmacy will always come with a script on it. Geno pens will always have one, or they will come in a bag with multiple pens with a script on the bag. If your Geno is coming from Turkey I highly suspect it is fake. Also, I'm sure whoever you got it from kept it stored properly as well, yeah right. So, if in the chance it was a legitimate product, which Turkey is the land of counterfeits, then I doubt it is at full strength anyway. Anyone saying GH does not cause massive pumps, fullness, and roundness almost immediately either has generic GH, which is junk, fake pharma GH, or simply doesn't respond to it. It gives a full, round look that nothing else does. What is the point of using it if it doesn't cause dramatic changes in ones physique? Never claimed to be a guru about GH, but I have a lot of experience with it and have used Serostim, Humatrope, Genotropin, Saizen, Omnitrope, Norditropin, Nutropin AQ all straight from USA pharmacies with script on them. So I know what it does and does not do. Out of all of those I can say Serostim, Humatrope, and Nutropin AQ are my favorites.

Your telling me that none of these Pens are getting away from wherever they are made without a prescription on them? @Apotheka where are you getting your American Pharmacy Grade Growth from? Can you explain to us all how you know these are 100% real? Thank You. I’ll never fucking post up another comment about this shit. @lilhawk your telling me that the Sources on this Board are selling us Fake GH? I guarantee you none of the US Grade GH on this website has a fucking prescription label on it. @Apotheka we want an answer that assures us that you have Authentic GH. Also, Meso supposedly does not letting Scamming happen here. If you know for a fact that these are Fake, then why are y’all allowing it to happen?

 

[Serono]

Your telling me that none of these Pens are getting away from wherever they are made without a prescription on them? @Apotheka where are you getting your American Pharmacy Grade Growth from? Can you explain to us all how you know these are 100% real? Thank You. I’ll never fucking post up another comment about this shit. @lilhawk your telling me that the Sources on this Board are selling us Fake GH? I guarantee you none of the US Grade GH on this website has a fucking prescription label on it. @Apotheka we want an answer that assures us that you have Authentic GH. Also, Meso supposedly does not letting Scamming happen here. If you know for a fact that these are Fake, then why are y’all allowing it to happen?

To the bolded above.. Those pens are not US Pharmacy grade, which is where the disconnect seems to be. They might have shipped domestic, but they are Turkish market. So no prescription label would be present. USA Geno doesn't come in those big disposable pens. It comes in Cartridges(for reusable digital pens), and mini-quick one time use syringes. I have carried and used these carts many of times.

As for if other US Pharma sold on this forum, has script labels on them, by the time they get to the end user, then the answer would be "maybe". Most sources(myself included) peel them off, for obvious reasons. However usually I just peel the patient/dr name off.

 

[Gaynz39]

To the bolded above.. Those pens are not US Pharmacy grade, which is where the disconnect seems to be. They might have shipped domestic, but they are Turkish market. So no prescription label would be present. USA Geno doesn't come in those big disposable pens. It comes in Cartridges(for reusable digital pens), and mini-quick one time use syringes. I have carried and used these carts many of times.

As for if other US Pharma sold on this forum, has script labels on them, by the time they get to the end user, then the answer would be "maybe". Most sources(myself included) peel them off, for obvious reasons. However usually I just peel the patient/dr name off.

Are you saying the 1 I have is a Fake? Why would I lie about side effects, or obvious fatloss that is starting to be obvious? I’ve ran 3 other brands of GH, and none made my hands and wrists swell until now.

 

[Serono]

Are you saying the 1 I have is a Fake? Why would I lie about side effects, or obvious fatloss that is starting to be obvious? I’ve ran 3 other brands of GH, and none made my hands and wrists swell until now.

No, I am not saying that at all, or trying to imply you are lying. I have no idea if what you have is real or fake as that is impossible to tell with the little info I have on your specific item.

I am just clarifying what you have are the Turkish Geno pens, and not USA Pharma Geno as the bolded above stated.

 

[ironwill1951]

@Serono I agree Geno will never come in a bag full of pens. lol, you get one pen with a script after that you just get refill cartridges if your pen malfunctions your DR will write a script for another pen with no cartridge. @lilhawk
their is a standard rule if you cant use gh for 4-6 months don't waste your money.
anybody that thinks their are immediate drastic changes in their physique hasn't used gh.
and should not be saying anything about it..

 

[ironwill1951]

@Gaynz39 we got off on the wrong foot but I agree with @Serono we are not saying that your pen is fake in fact their is probably a good chance its real most sources that give a bargin to get their gear out their are not going to send you fake gear, that comes later if their dishonest.
the oldest source trick in the book is for them to give someone real gear at a discount or free if they write a review, the after all their friends read the good review the source sends out crap gear. for that reason meso does not like gear whores.

Are you saying the 1 I have is a Fake? Why would I lie about side effects, or obvious fatloss that is starting to be obvious? I’ve ran 3 other brands of GH, and none made my hands and wrists swell until now.

 

[Gaynz39]

@Gaynz39 we got off on the wrong foot but I agree with @Serono we are not saying that your pen is fake in fact their is probably a good chance its real most sources that give a bargin to get their gear out their are not going to send you fake gear, that comes later if their dishonest.
the oldest source trick in the book is for them to give someone real gear at a discount or free if they write a review, the after all their friends read the good review the source sends out crap gear. for that reason meso does not like gear whores.

Understandable. That’s the first time I’ve ever accepted a Freebie. No one would pass up a Pfizer Pen I wouldn’t think. Good day Sir

 

[Serono]

Understandable. That’s the first time I’ve ever accepted a Freebie. No one would pass up a Pfizer Pen I wouldn’t think. Good day Sir

Luckily Meso has softened up a bit. You used to have the hit squad coming after you for that sort of thing

 

[ironwill1951]

yeah I really miss those days..

Luckily Meso has softened up a bit. You used to have the hit squad coming after you for that sort of thing

 

[ironwill1951]

sorry to burst your bubble but I don't know anyone that would write a review for a Pfizer pen. read the sticky on why you shouldn't accept free gear from a source.

Understandable. That’s the first time I’ve ever accepted a Freebie. No one would pass up a Pfizer Pen I wouldn’t think. Good day Sir

 

[Drraaat]

There is a ton of false info floating around here.
1.I have not been to turkey, but I know that gh(genotropin) can be purchased in Istanbul pharmacy w/out a scrip. Also due to government, there is a set price, less than Usa. (Although I ’ve heard it’s not by any means cheap)
2.There are members on here that have bloods done on Turkish genotropin proving 19mg body with 3iu.
3. Lilhawk, I’ve never heard of anyone getting amazing pumps from gh. I know that my endurance vo2 was great I could run for miles and I remember being extremely vascular with a happy well being due to blood sugar)I could care less about amazing pumps. I will be taking genos to potentially avoid a major surgery)

 

[Deleted member 59947]

So if your pen doesn't have a script on it, then it never came from a US pharmacy. Any GH from a USA pharmacy will always come with a script on it. Geno pens will always have one, or they will come in a bag with multiple pens with a script on the bag. If your Geno is coming from Turkey I highly suspect it is fake. Also, I'm sure whoever you got it from kept it stored properly as well, yeah right. So, if in the chance it was a legitimate product, which Turkey is the land of counterfeits, then I doubt it is at full strength anyway. Anyone saying GH does not cause massive pumps, fullness, and roundness almost immediately either has generic GH, which is junk, fake pharma GH, or simply doesn't respond to it. It gives a full, round look that nothing else does. What is the point of using it if it doesn't cause dramatic changes in ones physique? Never claimed to be a guru about GH, but I have a lot of experience with it and have used Serostim, Humatrope, Genotropin, Saizen, Omnitrope, Norditropin, Nutropin AQ all straight from USA pharmacies with script on them. So I know what it does and does not do. Out of all of those I can say Serostim, Humatrope, and Nutropin AQ are my favorites.

Why are you saying Genos from Turkey are fake?

I have been ordering my Genos from Turkey for more than a year now and my IGF-1 levels sore after only 3 days, and muscle fullness is here after one day.
Consistent quality

 

[Serono]

Why are you saying Genos from Turkey are fake?

I have been ordering my Genos from Turkey for more than a year now and my IGF-1 levels sore after only 3 days, and muscle fullness is here after one day.
Consistent quality

While I wont go as far as to say they are fake, I would say he raises some other valid points as to how it was stored previous to shipping, potential degradation while in transit, and the hassle of potential seizure, etc.

I just can't see the point in that, given USA Pharma GH, is so readily available here for comparable prices.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

For sure. I mean they are easy enough to get over there, so I would say if the vendor is reputable, and trying to build a rep, it would make no sense to send fake gh.

Some of the issue with Pharma items however. You can have a reproduction(counterfeit) that still has the substance it should. Ie. Counterfeit test often times still has test in it. It is just UGL, test, in reproduction packaging. Same goes for GH. There is instances of counterfeit items, that still contain what I would guess is Generic GH. Again, I don't think this is the case here, but worth noting.

This is kind of why I can't see what the appeal is to foreign GH when USA Pharma is so readily available. There is just so many question marks(real/fake, stored properly at all points, transit, customs, etc) For $2/iu, I can understand rolling the dice, but once you are at $4+ it makes no sense on any level IMO.

The cost of technology involved in faking a pen as complex as genos + putting generic HGH in it wouldn't make it very profitable, at best by a small margin.

Hygetropin and Genos don't have such a price difference that filling a well-faked pen with Hyge would yield in economic profit.
That would be a lot of work for very small benefits

 

[Deleted member 59947]

While I wont go as far as to say they are fake, I would say he raises some other valid points as to how it was stored previous to shipping, potential degradation while in transit, and the hassle of potential seizure, etc.

I just can't see the point in that, given USA Pharma GH, is so readily available here for comparable prices.

Do you just assume everyone lives in the States?

 

[Serono]

The cost of technology involved in faking a pen as complex as genos + putting generic HGH in it wouldn't make it very profitable, at best by a small margin.

Hygetropin and Genos don't have such a price difference that filling a well-faked pen with Hyge would yield in economic profit.
That would be a lot of work for very small benefits

While you would THINK that, counterfeiting is actually rather inexpensive. There are many instances of completely fake pens being sold. There are countries such as Bulgaria, who can knock off anything.

When you are dealing in the tens of thousands, worldwide, what seems like small margins, is big money.

As for your second question, no I try not to assume that, and typically preface my post with "if you live in the states" however it is early, and I forgot...lol

 

[Deleted member 59947]

I think way too many people on this forum are adepts of the conspiracy theory, and there is more real products out there than you would like to think.

My genos is from Turkey and:

- the pen looks slick
- I get fuller by day 1
- I get +100% IGF-1 score by day 3
- I look fuller and have insane pumps.

What other product than hgh could combine the last 3 observations?

And don't tell me Dbol, I have injected 20iu per day genos, I would have gyno by then if it was an AAS

 

[Serono]

I think way too many people on this forum are adepts of the conspiracy theory, and there is more real products out there than you would like to think.

My genos is from Turkey and:

- the pen looks slick
- I get fuller by day 1
- I get +100% IGF-1 score by day 3
- I look fuller and have insane pumps.

What other product than hgh could combine the last 3 observations?

And don't tell me Dbol, I have injected 20iu per day genos, I would have gyno by then if it was an AAS

I would not argue that your pens are indeed real. In fact most of my posting is saying just that. As I said to the other guy, I would wager the pen is likely real, as they are bountiful in Turkey. HOWEVER the fact is fakes do exist... It is understandable.

My points were more towards the storage, shipping, etc. I have gotten Nordi, Geno, and Humatrope direct from US Pharmacies, and they always are shipped on ice, in a cooler box, and come express. Managing the temp of those items is important.

In your case, if it is your best option, in the country you live, I completely understand why you would run it. I would do the same.

In the case of someone in the USA, it doesn't make sense to me, personally. Some people have this fascination with pens like it is somehow magically better. lol Every time I had a pen, I would just use it like a vial and draw out of the tip with a syringe.