Antibiotics on hand

[Apopkared]

You can also get an infection from post pinning if you get a large enough hematoma in the muscle . Always keep a bottle of keflex just in case

 

[EazyE]

What's that about the 90 degree angle?

It prevents a shallow injection as the needle will reach the muscle tissue, having to get through 3 layers of skin as well as subcutaneous layer. If on angle, the needle may not penetrate deep enough into muscle tissue.

 

[boxer15]

The whole MRSA thing is highly exaggerated. I used to work in the medical field and now have it covering nearly all my skin including injection sites and never once got an infection from it. Most doctors and nurses also have it. It's actually more rare to find a doctor that doesn't have MRSA. Have been cut quite deeply several times in the past in areas I know the MRSA colonized and still nothing. I think only a small percentage of the actual population is weak to it.

As to the OP's question, they usually prescribe augmentin for basic infections now at first and not amoxicillin as augmentin prevents the bacteria from developing resistance. However, if in a pinch, you can always buy some fish amoxicillin on the cheap if you can get a doctor's appointment right away. Would still get the proper antibiotics from the doctor though as you may have an infection like 350lift and need something else.

 

[EazyE]

Subcutaneous injection, or even shallow IM injections, are more susceptible to infection overall due to the less vascularized area. The compound does not readily absorb and irritates the tissue just below the fatty layer of skin. If you have ever had a case of cellulitis you can appreciate how quick it can spread and how severe it can become in short order. Left untreated it will spread to the lymphatic system and damageorgans and tissue.

 

[hunterbro]

From "just order fish flox" to "the sky is falling don't do it" Yup. That pretty much sums up Meso....

 

[jackmeoff1]

I wouldn’t trust black market antibiotics , personally

 

[Dead]

The whole MRSA thing is highly exaggerated. I used to work in the medical field and now have it covering nearly all my skin including injection sites and never once got an infection from it. Most doctors and nurses also have it. It's actually more rare to find a doctor that doesn't have MRSA. Have been cut quite deeply several times in the past in areas I know the MRSA colonized and still nothing. I think only a small percentage of the actual population is weak to it.

As to the OP's question, they usually prescribe augmentin for basic infections now at first and not amoxicillin as augmentin prevents the bacteria from developing resistance. However, if in a pinch, you can always buy some fish amoxicillin on the cheap if you can get a doctor's appointment right away. Would still get the proper antibiotics from the doctor though as you may have an infection like 350lift and need something else.

to be fair everyone has all these bacteria on their skin to keep out others as I’m sure u know, it’s when it gets on the inside that it’s bad.

ands I’m pretty sure that comes from a shit immune system which is likely wat I gave myself after running orals for 5 months straight.

or it was acne again I’ll never fuckin know

 

[Old]

I wouldn’t trust black market antibiotics , personally

Do you trust your AAS from the black market? Why not use the so called 'Canadian Pharmacies"?

I know every single time you pin, no matter how sterile your injection practice is, there is a risk of infection. If something happened and my condition escalated quickly I would go to the doc but I also want to have some antibiotics on hand. What sort of antibiotics do you guys have on hand? I am ordering some ancillaries and they do offer antibiotics so I wanted to order some of those to have on hand as well.

I guess another response is "You are a dumbass for even considering not going to the doc immediately if you think you have an infection...." so feel free to go with that too.

One should see a doc. But that may be delayed. If one is willing to PIN stuff in the first place, then they should understand 'first aide' for when things go wrong. That includes knowing what you are allergic to.

Emergency preparedness may seem far fetched. But if you live were hurricanes go near, or tornadoes, or earthquakes, or live remote ... well it becomes obvious. If one thinks they will always have immediate access to competent professional help, they don't know the system or what can (and does) go wrong.

Matching an antibiotic for best results for an infection is good ... but rarely done. Even if they take a culture, it usually takes days to grow by which time an untreated person could die. So they always start a person on something just based on the situation. (They pick according to medical protocol)

Often the MOST important factor is IMMEDIATE treatment. Find out what medical protocol is for an IM infection, stock and be prepared. Take something right away then try to see a doctor. You can simple tell them what you took in case there is concern about antibiotic interaction (which is uncommon).

I was in a god damn hospital for 4 days straight where no one gave a fuck even tho they thought I had necrotizing fasciitis, or acne fulminans. Wound culture showed mrsa, then nothing, normal white blood cell count, pseudomonas awrginosa, they had no fuckin clue what to do.

Do not fucking play with antibiotics

I never treated it myself I went to a dermatologist I went to about 5 then hospital then infectious disease

Your case is tragic/sad for sure. Perhaps the Levofloxacin worked because it is also an antimicrobial, not just bacteria.

But ironically, your experience demonstrates that one should be prepared to treat them self. If you had levoquin on hand when it started, perhaps the whole ordeal would have been avoided.

Instead you suffered terrible for weeks and to this day don't know what really the problem was and are left literally and psychologically scarred. Hardly a grade 'A' for the medical system

Given all the crazy stuff people that use AAS do, learning about and stocking a few antibiotics is the least crazy.


As for MRSA and the like, the main problem is that 99% of antibiotics are used raising animals. It allows them to servive crap food and crap conditions. It also causes them to get bigger (more meat) for some reason.


My own experience is not perhaps as bad as yours. But it has left me with a permanent problem. Got a skin infection (nothing to do with injections or drugs). Two months and docs could not figure it out. Realized it looked like the mange that animals get and asked for permethrin cream (anti parasite), which worked like a charm. But am left with dermatitis (antigens against own skin) that can itch so bad I'd rather put a bullet in my head than cope with it. So the medical system failed me ... ironically I figured out the problem, not the "professionals".

Now admittedly I have various trust issues, so try to care for self. Too bad the medical community doesn't try as hard. Some do but plenty are just collecting a paycheck ... and seeing death is just part of their job that they get used to.

Medical Errors Are No. 3 Cause Of U.S Deaths, Researchers Say

 

[Dead]

Do you trust your AAS from the black market? Why not use the so called 'Canadian Pharmacies"?





One should see a doc. But that may be delayed. If one is willing to PIN stuff in the first place, then they should understand 'first aide' for when things go wrong. That includes knowing what you are allergic to.

Emergency preparedness may seem far fetched. But if you live were hurricanes go near, or tornadoes, or earthquakes, or live remote ... well it becomes obvious. If one thinks they will always have immediate access to competent professional help, they don't know the system or what can (and does) go wrong.

Matching an antibiotic for best results for an infection is good ... but rarely done. Even if they take a culture, it usually takes days to grow by which time an untreated person could die. So they always start a person on something just based on the situation. (They pick according to medical protocol)

Often the MOST important factor is IMMEDIATE treatment. Find out what medical protocol is for an IM infection, stock and be prepared. Take something right away then try to see a doctor. You can simple tell them what you took in case there is concern about antibiotic interaction (which is uncommon).








Your case is tragic/sad for sure. Perhaps the Levofloxacin worked because it is also an antimicrobial, not just bacteria.

But ironically, your experience demonstrates that one should be prepared to treat them self. If you had levoquin on hand when it started, perhaps the whole ordeal would have been avoided.

Instead you suffered terrible for weeks and to this day don't know what really the problem was and are left literally and psychologically scarred. Hardly a grade 'A' for the medical system


As for MRSA and the like, the main problem is that 99% of antibiotics are used raising animals. It allows them to servive crap food and crap conditions. It also causes them to get bigger (more meat) for some reason.


My own experience is not perhaps as bad as yours. But it has left me with a permanent problem. Got a skin infection (nothing to do with injections or drugs). Two months and docs could not figure it out. Realized it looked like the mange to animals get and asked for permethrin cream (anti parasite), which worked like a charm. But am left with dermatitis (antigens against own skin) that can itch so bad I'd rather put a bullet in my head than cope with it. So the medical system failed me ... ironically I figured out the problem, not the "professionals".

Now admittedly I have various trust issues, so try to care for self. Too bad the medical community doesn't try as hard. Some do but plenty are just collecting a paycheck ... a seeing death is just part of their job that they get used to.

Medical Errors Are No. 3 Cause Of U.S Deaths, Researchers Say

sorry to hear that happened to you as well. Yeah they don’t give a shit they just want paychecks. At one point in my life I may had been that one person that actually did give a shit but that shits withering away quickly.

 

[Kingkersis88]

I wish the best for you bro. I had an infection go to my hart one time was in the hospital for 6 weeks. Called endocarditis. I had 2/3 chance of dieing or at least that's why they said. I was using alot of herion at the time though. I've been clean for a long time now but I dont know how im still alive. It's weird how some people get sick other do not. I did not have good practice with a injecting and now that I think of it I should be using better practices today. Anyways hope you reach your goal. Can you use less harsh steroids like proviron? Or anavar? Maybe primo

 

[EazyE]

I wish the best for you bro. I had an infection go to my hart one time was in the hospital for 6 weeks. Called endocarditis. I had 2/3 chance of dieing or at least that's why they said. I was using alot of herion at the time though. I've been clean for a long time now but I dont know how im still alive. It's weird how some people get sick other do not. I did not have good practice with a injecting and now that I think of it I should be using better practices today. Anyways hope you reach your goal. Can you use less harsh steroids like proviron? Or anavar? Maybe primo

Thanks for sharing your experience. Glad that you pulled through and are clean. Takes a strong person to be able to get clean and stay clean.

 

[Kingkersis88]

Thanks for that bro. Much better response then I thought I would get.

 

[EazyE]

Thanks for that bro. Much better response then I thought I would get.

Hey, nobody’s perfect and it’s not a perfect world. All we can do is try. We only fail when we stop trying. One day better. Every day. Stay real. No judgment.

 

[Kingkersis88]

Good guy bro and I agree 100%. I find more people have had fucked up shit in their lifes then not. So I share about that shit. Bodybuilding is actually what I owe it 2. That and a higher power. I'm not a n.a or a.a person but I believe in a source of creation. Somthing helped me out. Thankful.

 

[LeoTC]

@slyfox115 ive used for a few different types of infections. Typically penicillin being my goto. Works for me. Doesn’t mean it will for you or anyone else. But I definitely don’t see it being a bad thing having that shit on hand, get an infection give it a day or two on your antibiotics if it worsens or gets better then you have your answer, I’m no doctor tho so take it with a grain of salt

Couple problems with the throw shit until something sticks approach.

1) That's why more and more anti-biotics are quickly becoming ineffective. Stupid fucks using them without thought or reason.

2) They all have different effects on the body. Beyond utterly destroying your internal biome, there are several that cause issues with tendons and other connective tissues.

It's not something as casual as deciding between Tylenol and Alieve.

 

[Havah]

 

[Old]

Couple problems with the throw shit until something sticks approach.

1) That's why more and more anti-biotics are quickly becoming ineffective. Stupid fucks using them without thought or reason.

2) They all have different effects on the body. Beyond utterly destroying your internal biome, there are several that cause issues with tendons and other connective tissues.

It's not something as casual as deciding between Tylenol and Alieve.

There are many reasons for antibiotic resistance. Antibiotic resistance
But the bulk is from agricultural use and through the professional health care system.

An example of agricultural misuse is amantadine. There are only three antivirals for bird flue - Rapivab, Relenza and Tamaflu. Amantadine WAS another but the Chinese started putting amatadine into the feed ... now it no longer works against bird flue.

As for professional misuse, look at what happened to 350lift in previous posts. Solely through professional health care services he was put on

doxycycline, bactrim, topical bactrim, clindamycin, ciprofloxacin, IV daptomycin, ZYVOX. I forget the rest. ... Finally levofloxacin killed it in 4 days.

Apparently these professionals were "Stupid fucks using them without thought or reason"

But people are put on antibiotics quickly without knowing if it is the best antibiotic to use because of the risk of death.

So the real issue is: Are YOU willing to DIE or loose your leg or mobility because you want to contribute to the good of society regarding antibiotic resistance? Can you ensure you will get immediate professional help under any and all circumstances that may occur in the future? Really the best answer is never to PIN in the first place. Think of the problems that can be avoided is one just gives up AAS all together. So should ones morals kick in at being prepared for the potential dangers by buying a few antibiotics?


As for the other effects on the body. Yes, it messes with the microbiome (although so does restaurant food and 'modern' food). For the most part all antibiotics are neurotoxic and hearing is the most sensitive. Some antibiotics are carcinagenic including Levaquin and Flagyl. Some cause birth defects.

Now we can make a 'crisis' out of antibiotic resistance (and it is one). But much could be solved by stopping international travel, sex outside marriage, dense population (cities), etc... But as a society, these contrary lifestyles are more important that the death of millions. These guys claim: "Antimicrobial resistance (AMR) causes an estimated 700,000 deaths annually worldwide, and every country is potentially affected. If not properly addressed, the number could grow to 10 million per year by 2050" - Antimicrobial Resistance | USP . Like so many 'crisis'es, no one wants real solutions or real facts.


And just a fun fact: Tylenol, Alieve and all NSAIDs cause cardiovascular disease. Opiods don't. Which is a bigger crisis: NSAIDs or Opiods?

 

[EazyE]

There are many reasons for antibiotic resistance. Antibiotic resistance
But the bulk is from agricultural use and through the professional health care system.

An example of agricultural misuse is amantadine. There are only three antivirals for bird flue - Rapivab, Relenza and Tamaflu. Amantadine WAS another but the Chinese started putting amatadine into the feed ... now it no longer works against bird flue.

As for professional misuse, look at what happened to 350lift in previous posts. Solely through professional health care services he was put on Apparently these professionals were "Stupid fucks using them without thought or reason"

But people are put on antibiotics quickly without knowing if it is the best antibiotic to use because of the risk of death.

So the real issue is: Are YOU willing to DIE or loose your leg or mobility because you want to contribute to the good of society regarding antibiotic resistance? Can you ensure you will get immediate professional help under any and all circumstances that may occur in the future? Really the best answer is never to PIN in the first place. Think of the problems that can be avoided is one just gives up AAS all together. So should ones morals kick in at being prepared for the potential dangers by buying a few antibiotics?


As for the other effects on the body. Yes, it messes with the microbiome (although so does restaurant food and 'modern' food). For the most part all antibiotics are neurotoxic and hearing is the most sensitive. Some antibiotics are carcinagenic including Levaquin and Flagyl. Some cause birth defects.

Now we can make a 'crisis' out of antibiotic resistance (and it is one). But much could be solved by stopping international travel, sex outside marriage, dense population (cities), etc... But as a society, these contrary lifestyles are more important that the death of millions. These guys claim: "Antimicrobial resistance (AMR) causes an estimated 700,000 deaths annually worldwide, and every country is potentially affected. If not properly addressed, the number could grow to 10 million per year by 2050" - Antimicrobial Resistance | USP . Like so many 'crisis'es, no one wants real solutions or real facts.


And just a fun fact: Tylenol, Alieve and all NSAIDs cause cardiovascular disease. Opiods don't. Which is a bigger crisis: NSAIDs or Opiods?

Great info and insight. Fantastic read! Thanks for posting this. Everyone on Meso should read this.