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[QueenBee]

You're in the thread.

Think he’s talking about pharmacom?

 

[Trifive]

You're in the thread.

haha!! Duh! Ok, I kinda wondered if it was that thread. But you never know on this site as there's so many sources and you guys abbreviate a lot!

 

[SteroidsBro]

haha!! Duh! Ok, I kinda wondered if it was that thread. But you never know on this site as there's so many sources and you guys abbreviate a lot!

Like somebody else said in the last few pages, if you search mighty mouse's posts for this thread he has done like 10 igf tests with optis against pharma grade, and sometimes the optis were testing better per iu if i remember right. If you have money for GH, buy it.

 

[rambosmurf]

This was 2.5iu Opti at night like I always do, but it was 1 week "off" everything. Still above range but am convinced something was messing with my IGF number.

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Gh puts ur ast/alt lover numbers that high??
I read gh helps treat liver disease and schiriosis?

 

[JP1979]

Gh puts ur ast/alt lover numbers that high??
I read gh helps treat liver disease and schiriosis?

Noooo. Not at all. I was just coming off cycle so my values were fucked, which I feel like and have zero evidence of, that my values being that bad affected my IGF numbers.

 

[rambosmurf]

Noooo. Not at all. I was just coming off cycle so my values were fucked, which I feel like and have zero evidence of, that my values being that bad affected my IGF numbers.

Ok one of the reasons why I’m doing gh is to help my liver after the aaa abuse over last 5 years
Am I right in my reasearch thinking gh helps liver ast altnumbers go down?
Thanks for the answer btI’m getting blood work for work right now and im hoping gh didn’t adversely affect my liver values

 

[JP1979]

Ok one of the reasons why I’m doing gh is to help my liver after the aaa abuse over last 5 years
Am I right in my reasearch thinking gh helps liver ast altnumbers go down?
Thanks for the answer btI’m getting blood work for work right now and im hoping gh didn’t adversely affect my liver values

I've been on gH all year and the only time I have had raised liver values is after cycle..... I'll look back at couple later, but this is the first one that has went this high.

 

[taco33150]

This is the reason why people don’t grow because they use so much gear that it puts a huge strain in the liver like you said. The more you use the more toxic you get and the harder it gets to put in muscle.

I’m glad you brought that up .. I’ve been using low dosage more frequently..
Now I ran across a guy his name is mike at the research station .. big on low dosing more frequently.. microdosing is what he calls it..from all the research he has done ..125 a day is the most yiur liver can process ..I’ve been doing it for 3 months and I don’t feel as toxic.. a lot may argue this method but .. I feel better ..

 

[JP1979]

I’m glad you brought that up .. I’ve been using low dosage more frequently..
Now I ran across a guy his name is mike at the research station .. big on low dosing more frequently.. microdosing is what he calls it..from all the research he has done ..125 a day is the most yiur liver can process ..I’ve been doing it for 3 months and I don’t feel as toxic.. a lot may argue this method but .. I feel better ..

Don't get me started on that dude... Blood tests prove this incorrect, it's a ploy for him to get his "members" to inject more often and buy more often.

 

[nealcaffrey16]

I'm getting bloods back (i'm not on any GH rn) and may try opti thereafter. just a heads up so I can give before/after numbers. i suspect mine is low but not sure. will see.

 

[BlownStrength]

@opti thanks for the smooth sailing once all over again! Even with the holiday shipping craziness you got my gift on time. Ttys

 

[taco33150]

Don't get me started on that dude... Blood tests prove this incorrect, it's a ploy for him to get his "members" to inject more often and buy more often.

I’m using a lot less.. Yiu got to give it a shot

 

[JP1979]

I’m using a lot less.. Yiu got to give it a shot

I do 50mg EOD. Have been since before Big Mike was even around... I got it from Tnation 2 years ago. I don't agree with 125mg being the max your body can process.

 

[taco33150]

I do 50mg EOD. Have been since before Big Mike was even around... I got it from Tnation 2 years ago. I don't agree with 125mg being the max your body can process.

I’m on the fence about that myself..but your liver can only do so much to process

 

[JP1979]

I’m on the fence about that myself..but your liver can only do so much to process

Get that but it's an unquantifiable or provable stat he throws around to sound "in the know"

 

[taco33150]

Get that but it's an unquantifiable or provable stat he throws around to sound "in the know"

In your experience what’s your final conclusion...??

 

[JP1979]

In your experience what’s your final conclusion...??

I have no idea. There is obviously a drop off after certain dosage, so yeah there is only so much it can process effectively, but what that number is, nobody knows and could be different from person to person.

I have no idea how you could even test that? you'd have to pin 125mg prop at 8am and get labs 12 hours later, then 2 days later pin 175mg prop, labs 12hrs later and compare... ?

 

[taco33150]

I have no idea. There is obviously a drop off after certain dosage, so yeah there is only so much it can process effectively, but what that number is, nobody knows and could be different from person to person.

I have no idea how you could even test that? you'd have to pin 125mg prop at 8am and get labs 12 hours later, then 2 days later pin 175mg prop, labs 12hrs later and compare... ?

Fack that .. that’s too much to do

 

[ZuperZtar95]

Is this guy even answering emails? I been waiting for the package about a week and he said he was gonna send the tracking but there is no tracking

 

[Trifive]

I emailed him a week ago and he replied right away. I haven’t ordered yet but he did reply to me.