Russia begins invasion of Ukraine

So much for US funded bio weapons labs in Ukraine being fake new russian propaganda. We are so screwed.
Of course it was lol,Ukraine has one of the worst infrastructures of europe and you believe that they are able to have 8 bio labs when the developed western world only has 3?One of them is fort detrick where covid was made. Here is a non faked video of soros bragging about replacing the soviet empire with the soros empire. Jew Soros bragging about “the Soros Empire replacing the Soviet Empire” at Asia society 2015.
 
I did not miss it at all. I understood your point. It overlooks reality. You are both missing the history of why NATO exists and why other countries want to join it even today.

The reality is that NATO is a relic of the cold war, and it's purpose was to stop the westward spread of Communism.

One look at the democrat party and it's obvious that NATO was a complete failure. Adherence to Communist ideology is rampant in America and its party is currently running the country.

The other reality is that NATO and the united states itself did as much to provoke this war as either Russia or Ukraine ever did.
 
The reality is that NATO is a relic of the cold war, and it's purpose was to stop the westward spread of Communism.

One look at the democrat party and it's obvious that NATO was a complete failure. Adherence to Communist ideology is rampant in America and its party is currently running the country.

The other reality is that NATO and the united states itself did as much to provoke this war as either Russia or Ukraine ever did.
I think communism has been apart of this country for quite some time going back more than 100 years.

The core of many of the hardest working men and women in this country is really built on the backs of Socialism. We've been told to ignore this past, but it's a fascinating history where much of what they did got us to this point, but they stopped and now the worker is stagnating with regards to worker rights and our systems are clearly out of date with technology.

I've always said it's not the system, it's about putting in place a way of life geared towards the human and not the machine. Towards the average man and not the rich that exploit. We seem to have given up on the idea that it's kind of nice to have collective power where you can change the terms to suit the masses instead of a few elites. We have been brainwashed to revere and admire the rich and that's to our own detriment.

Socialism in America comes out of the late 1800's.

Communism obviously during the Russian Revolution 1920.

There was a time when workers in this country were treated with a total disregard, worked to death, carcass tossed in a box and in the ground. Slums filled with diseased workers that were basically slaves. It's a perfect environment for violent revolution. There indeed was a time when the worker was a badass in this country, sticks of dynamite under the bosses office chair, baseball bats out in the streets, governments fighting wars against workers that rose up.

This shouldn't be looked down upon, I think it's actually inspiring to see mans zest for freedom. A lot of the most interesting characters in history came out of these revolutions.
 
The reality is that NATO is a relic of the cold war, and it's purpose was to stop the westward spread of Communism.

One look at the democrat party and it's obvious that NATO was a complete failure. Adherence to Communist ideology is rampant in America and its party is currently running the country.

The other reality is that NATO and the united states itself did as much to provoke this war as either Russia or Ukraine ever did.
Expanding Nato into eastern Europe was a mistake, but to claim the United States is as responsible as the Russian Federation is preposterous.

Watch more Tucker.
 
I have a hard time believing anyone can be so fucking stupid. Do you live in Russia?
Paul the problem is that our media is nothing more than propaganda itself. They have been called out for it for years and they just double down. Our government has become so completely corrupted it is beyond repair, it is rotten to the core. Hard times are coming, hopefully we learn from this but our memories seem to be so short.
 
Paul the problem is that our media is nothing more than propaganda itself. They have been called out for it for years and they just double down. Our government has become so completely corrupted it is beyond repair, it is rotten to the core. Hard times are coming, hopefully we learn from this but our memories seem to be so short.
If you think I'm going to defend our governments action around the world, I'm not. In my life Vietnam was fucked up. Iraq was a fucking disaster, and Afghanistan was a debacle, but what we are witnessing in the Ukraine is something we haven't seen in decades.

The pretext that putin used to destroy 45 million lives is complete bullshit. Denazificatiion?

Now rightwing nut jobs, if they can actually be described as right wing, are repeating Russian talking points.

Truely ignorant and very sad to see this.
 
Sad day indeed. Today almost as many people were shot in the Ukrain as Chicago.
Do you really believe this? Are you actually going to say the Chicago crime rate is something that is comparable to the invasion of Ukraine?

Enlighten me. How many homes, hospitals, schools destroyed in Chicago today? Can people still find food, medication and drinking water in Chicago?
 
If you think I'm going to defend our governments action around the world, I'm not. In my life Vietnam was fucked up. Iraq was a fucking disaster, and Afghanistan was a debacle, but what we are witnessing in the Ukraine is something we haven't seen in decades.

The pretext that putin used to destroy 45 million lives is complete bullshit. Denazificatiion?

Now rightwing nut jobs, if they can actually be described as right wing, are repeating Russian talking points.

Truely ignorant and very sad to see this.
There are people still alive from the last time Europe got all uppity and drove 1000 miles up Russias ass. Maybe they have good reason to be paranoid.
 
Do you really believe this? Are you actually going to say the Chicago crime rate is something that is comparable to the invasion of Ukraine?

Enlighten me. How many homes, hospitals, schools destroyed in Chicago today? Can people still find food, medication and drinking water in Chicago?
Big or small scale a human tragedy is tragedy.

I will repeat just so it's loud and clear...."AMERICA IS IN NO POSITION TO CRITICIZE ANYONE".

We are soaked in blood as a nation. How many Iraqis did we end up getting killed directly or indirectly because we just had to invade to protect "you know who". Now I'm not making a reference to anyone I'm just throwing out a vague string of words.

What's that little place we send $4 billion every year......? And what do they do to those brown people they don't like? Once again I'm not referring to any actual persons or people, just a vague reference to people or places that could possibly exist, but could possibly not.

Who locks up more people in the world than the United States for non-violent crime? Sticks them in a prison with violent psychopaths in the hopes they get sodomized or their skulls crushed in.

We need to drop this double standard.

Bottom line is we like to go into every country and screw with people. We were monkey wrenching with Ukraine. It sure as hell wasn't the Europeans as they have proven to be about as pacifist as one could imagine. We Americans are the worlds War machine, we have more weapons and known how. We don't know how to do much, but we can wipe just about anyone off the face of the earth that gets in our way. Our global military might is unquestionable and when those weapons start getting rusty it's only natural to put them to go use going around looking for another war.

Until we stop as a war machine, we are in no position to point the finger.

Do I agree with Russia? No, I stated that I think Putin should get a bullet between his eyes(his own people should do it) as he's too dangerous to the world with nukes. The Russians have outgrown this childish nonsense of being ruled by infantile men that has a small man complex.

And yes Chicago is a war zone. Walk down the street some late night in China town and tell me if you feel more at risk then in a war zone. I've been stuck downtown Chicago at 2 am when the clubs closed and walked back to the parking garage with homeless coming up to me trying to get money while I'm dressed in slacks and a $500 leather jacket and a wad of cash just knowing I'm gonna get killed having to walk 7 blocks back to my parking garage, because the cabs are all shut down for the night.

Chicago is the only place I've been where you can't go inside Burger King, you have to pay using a bank teller deposit box and they put the food through a draw where you can't slip a gun through it. Same thing for their convenience stores, you point to the item you want through bullet proof glass.

And I'm not sure Chicago has good drinking water. I have great drinking water, but I'm not sure I'd trust Chicago without a good RO system.
 
Do you really believe this? Are you actually going to say the Chicago crime rate is something that is comparable to the invasion of Ukraine?

Enlighten me. How many homes, hospitals, schools destroyed in Chicago today? Can people still find food, medication and drinking water in Chicago?
They are not comparable the war in Ukraine will last weeks Chicago is generationaly broken.
 
They are not comparable the war in Ukraine will last weeks Chicago is generationaly broken.
Excellent point.

When you get shot you get shot, killed you get killed.

Does it really matter if it's war or some hell hole in Chicago?

There are parts of Chicago that are fucking terrifying, I mean really scary shit, it's like a war zone with the ambulance running all night long up and down the street.

The noisy chaos of certain run down parts of Chicago(south side) are depressing. You can feel cortisol coming out of every pore on your body. It's one of those places where your brain is telling you to get out as quick as possible.

 
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They are not comparable the war in Ukraine will last weeks Chicago is generationaly broken.
This entire country is broken for several generations if we start correcting it now.

I suggest taking 200 billion off of our 750 billion dollar defense budget and do something about drug addiction and homelessness.

That would take courage and this country doesn't elect courage, so where are we.

This country has allowed drugs to flood this nation and destroy entire communities. It will be equivalent to fighting a world war and a generation will most likely be lost, but maybe we can save the next generation. I'm all in.
 
I agree it's a land grab, nice big chunk with lots of oil/gas reserves.

The thing is people are gonna have to realize America is flat busted broke.There's nothing worth fighting for overseas and we're losing our own country to a wave of illegal immigration. What's the point in even giving a shit anymore about anything, there certainly isn't anything to even consider trading your life for because everything you hold near and dear will all be erased in another 50-100 years as far as the United States. If my country asked me to fight, I'd tell them to fuck off, I'm not stupid I've been around for coming up on 50 years, I know this country has been sold out and that process is being sped up at warp speed. So no way would I ever fight for anything over here at all, expect for my own property and to protect my relatives and friends, but for the country....nope.

It wasn't that long ago that we had a totally different view on war that wasn't apart of our borders and even wars that happened in Europe.

You had the early 1900's before WWI where there were many voices totally against us getting into that mess which was about as dumb a war as there ever was.

Then WWII was ramping up and we had "America Firster's" that were considered proto-nazi because they didn't want to go to Europe to kill our brothers and sisters.

It's all propaganda either way. It's best when it comes to war to sit down and do the math and if you are far out matched it will do you no good at all to fight. You put the white flag out and call it a day. 20 million European people killed during WWII, that's just dumb no matter how you look at it.

I'm sure China is gonna invade Taiwan and that was never gonna be prevented anyway. Japan better watch their ass because America isn't gonna die for them either when China comes knocking.

The American Empire is over, we woke up and realized it just isn't worth fighting and dying all over the world for this phony thing called freedom that doesn't exist at all and never existed.....that is unless you consider freedom the right to buy product A or B which is the only real freedom that exists in the United States.
 
This entire country is broken for several generations if we start correcting it now.

I suggest taking 200 billion off of our 750 billion dollar defense budget and do something about drug addiction and homelessness.

That would take courage and this country doesn't elect courage, so where are we.

This country has allowed drugs to flood this nation and destroy entire communities. It will be equivalent to fighting a world war and a generation will most likely be lost, but maybe we can save the next generation. I'm all in.
They only needed 25 billion to build a wall now the democrats are paying 6 million a day to not build a wall. Almost seems intentional that one of the few things not affected by inflation is the heroine that is now cheaper than ever.
 
Big or small scale a human tragedy is tragedy.

I will repeat just so it's loud and clear...."AMERICA IS IN NO POSITION TO CRITICIZE ANYONE".

We are soaked in blood as a nation. How many Iraqis did we end up getting killed directly or indirectly because we just had to invade to protect "you know who". Now I'm not making a reference to anyone I'm just throwing out a vague string of words.

What's that little place we send $4 billion every year......? And what do they do to those brown people they don't like? Once again I'm not referring to any actual persons or people, just a vague reference to people or places that could possibly exist, but could possibly not.

Who locks up more people in the world than the United States for non-violent crime? Sticks them in a prison with violent psychopaths in the hopes they get sodomized or their skulls crushed in.

We need to drop this double standard.

Bottom line is we like to go into every country and screw with people. We were monkey wrenching with Ukraine. It sure as hell wasn't the Europeans as they have proven to be about as pacifist as one could imagine. We Americans are the worlds War machine, we have more weapons and known how. We don't know how to do much, but we can wipe just about anyone off the face of the earth that gets in our way. Our global military might is unquestionable and when those weapons start getting rusty it's only natural to put them to go use going around looking for another war.

Until we stop as a war machine, we are in no position to point the finger.

Do I agree with Russia? No, I stated that I think Putin should get a bullet between his eyes(his own people should do it) as he's too dangerous to the world with nukes. The Russians have outgrown this childish nonsense of being ruled by infantile men that has a small man complex.

And yes Chicago is a war zone. Walk down the street some late night in China town and tell me if you feel more at risk then in a war zone. I've been stuck downtown Chicago at 2 am when the clubs closed and walked back to the parking garage with homeless coming up to me trying to get money while I'm dressed in slacks and a $500 leather jacket and a wad of cash just knowing I'm gonna get killed having to walk 7 blocks back to my parking garage, because the cabs are all shut down for the night.

Chicago is the only place I've been where you can't go inside Burger King, you have to pay using a bank teller deposit box and they put the food through a draw where you can't slip a gun through it. Same thing for their convenience stores, you point to the item you want through bullet proof glass.

And I'm not sure Chicago has good drinking water. I have great drinking water, but I'm not sure I'd trust Chicago without a good RO system.
will repeat just so it's loud and clear...."AMERICA IS IN
When old people, women and children are dying and hiding in cellars you decide wbich side you are on.

We fucked up bad as a nation in the past in the wars we fought. In my opion we would have been better of staying home this last century, but this is different. Putin is a would be hitler, but he doesn't have the money or the army, but he does have 6000 nuclear warheads.

America has blood on it's hands like it or not, but we are not threatening planetary destruction, Russia is.

Be angry for the past. Just realize that this nation has never been on the brink of destruction before like we are now.

We locked up the Japanese in ww2. I suggest locking up putin dick lickers now.

We are 15 miles from world fucking war 3.
 
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Excellent point.

When you get shot you get shot, killed you get killed.

Does it really matter if it's war or some hell hole in Chicago?

There are parts of Chicago that are fucking terrifying, I mean really scary shit, it's like a war zone with the ambulance running all night long up and down the street.

The noisy chaos of certain run down parts of Chicago(south side) are depressing. You can feel cortisol coming out of every pore on your body. It's one of those places where your brain is telling you to get out as quick as possible.

 
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